2020 FA, Draft and Trade HYPOTHETICAL thread...now with new DFA speculation!

[Strapping Young Lad]

A good reference point for picks.

 

[Dewwwww]

What are everyone’s thoughts about Peter Wright? 23 years old and can’t get a look in Gold Coasts best 22. With reduced lists could Gold Coast be keen to do a salary dump for a future pick?

Whilst not an A grade ruckman was just wondering if he could potentially turn into a starting ruck playing 60 / 40 Ruck forward teaming up with Mitch Lewis. Could be the perfect time to strike for a player who could play the David Hale role!

 

[PhatHQ]

Where is Impey?

Pouring me a beer... I actually had him back until I shuffled the deck and forgot to put him back in. I’m inclined to run him off a HFF as he has a low trajectory kick.
I Guess Maginness out Impey in

 

[Lawsy]

Dewwwww

He seems more Josh Schache than David Hale to me.
Is it timidness or lack of aggression that hold him back? I don't know but don't see him as a ruckman at all which may be why he can't crack the GC best 22

 

[Agent8686]

Peter Wright is not a bad player, but we really need to invest in the draft and find a new core group of players to build around. For that reason I'd really like us us to keep all our picks unless we are trading to improve our draft position.

This draft looks good for key position prospects and I'd like us to take advantage of that.

My wish is for us to upgrade the 2nd round selection we received from North and get another first rounder.

Perhaps we trade a player & Norths 2nd round pick for Carltons first round pick? Something like that, purely hypothetical of course.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Peter Wright is not a bad player, but we really need to invest in the draft and find a new core group of players to build around. For that reason I'd really like us us to keep all our picks unless we are trading to improve our draft position.

This draft looks good for key position prospects and I'd like us to take advantage of that.

My wish is for us to upgrade the 2nd round selection we received from North and get another first rounder.

Perhaps we trade a player & Norths 2nd round pick for Carltons first round pick? Something like that, purely hypothetical of course.

I think finding good contributors not getting an opportunity is just as important as it is finding them in the Draft.

If we were to target a Wright (i am not sold on him) it would cost very little asset wise and if you can get a 150 game best 22 player for that you have got a steal. Can Wright be that? Not sure but it is worth pursuing.

 

[Agent8686]

I don't rate Peter Wright as a player either

We already paying for the Patton salary dump, I really don't want another one of those. Plus who knows we may pick up a gun forward/ruck in next years draft?

We have holes on our list everywhere and I honestly think we just need to invest in the draft first.

Once we have a good young core of players to build around, then we can start filling in the gaps with players from other clubs.

 

[sohsam]

I think finding good contributors not getting an opportunity is just as important as it is finding them in the Draft.

If we were to target a Wright (i am not sold on him) it would cost very little asset wise and if you can get a 150 game best 22 player for that you have got a steal. Can Wright be that? Not sure but it is worth pursuing.

Fair enough but currently we have 2 ruckmen, the can rotate in fwd line, TOB/Patton can probably do that too. It will provide competition for spots. I think as others have said, not ideal to have two ruckmen, probably a ruckmen and TOB might be sufficient.

 

[sohsam]

I don't rate Peter Wright as a player either

We already paying for the Patton salary dump, I really don't want another one of those. Plus who knows we may pick up a gun forward in next years draft?

We have holes on our list everywhere and I honestly think we just need to invest in the draft first.

Once we have a good young core of players to build around, then we can start filling in the gaps with players from other clubs.

Yes, that sounds logical, unless find Impey/Schrimshaw type of deal that can fill out gaps too.

 

[Agent8686]

Yeah true, if another one of those deals come along then yeah definitely grab those. We can always acquire a another pick back from another club to replace the one we just traded as part of that deal as well.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Fair enough but currently we have 2 ruckmen, the can rotate in fwd line, TOB/Patton can probably do that too. It will provide competition for spots. I think as others have said, not ideal to have two ruckmen, probably a ruckmen and TOB might be sufficient.

We have Big Boy with probably 1 year left, 2 max.

Cegs is seriously average and TOB Patton are not the answer.

The question is always will the player we take with pick 'x' be better than who we are trading that pick for. I again don't rate Wright so don't think he is the one to target but i don't think we need to take all picks to the Draft just because we are rebuilding.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

I don't rate Peter Wright as a player either

We already paying for the Patton salary dump, I really don't want another one of those. Plus who knows we may pick up a gun forward/ruck in next years draft?

We have holes on our list everywhere and I honestly think we just need to invest in the draft first.

Once we have a good young core of players to build around, then we can start filling in the gaps with players from other clubs.

That is fair enough in not rating Wright but with that same line of thinking we miss out on Scrimshaw, Frost types.

 

[Agent8686]

Yeah fair point.

I guess the key component is how much the trade will cost us in assets.

We will definitely need to complement our kids with some experienced players who can provide leadership and play a role for us.

If we trade some later picks for players, perhaps we offset that by trading some of our older players out for picks.

 

[Dewwwww]

I think finding good contributors not getting an opportunity is just as important as it is finding them in the Draft.

If we were to target a Wright (i am not sold on him) it would cost very little asset wise and if you can get a 150 game best 22 player for that you have got a steal. Can Wright be that? Not sure but it is worth pursuing.

100% why I’d be keen on asking the question. We are not going to get 10 first round picks over the next 2 years to rebuild our list. And Key position players take a lot longer to develop. Is the right age bracket to fit in with our core group. Had an elite tank when drafted. If and only if He would cost a later pick / future pick as a salary dump would I consider it. There are only 2-3 elite rucks in the comp so he doesn’t have to be a world beater in the middle...however post Cegs it would be nice to have a ruck who can also play key position fwd which Wright can

 

[Agent8686]

I really hope our rebuild only takes 2 drafts, but my gut feel is that it may take 4-5 drafts.

 

[Walshawk]

Relieved to hear that we cannot trade pick 3 due to us off loading multiple first round picks in recent years.

 

[Walshawk]

I really hope our rebuild only takes 2 drafts, but my gut feel is that it may take 4-5 drafts.

Pick 3, 21 & Downie this year and a likely top 4 and early 20s again next year might be enough. If we select wisely.
Add Finn and Day and that is seven top 25 picks.
Our team in 2023 could be
Scrimshaw Draft Hardwick
Day Frost Greaves
Downie Mitchell Impey
JOM Draft Wingard
Gunston Draft Draft
Trade Maginness Worpel
We need to draft two speedy mids and two KPPs the next two years. Then trade for a ruckman.

 

[FactsNotBS]

Gallucci is definitely a player type that suits our list needs, whether he can put it together remains to be seen. Certainly someone I’d be keen on.
same with Witherden but I don’t think Brisbane will let him go lightly.

Ive watched him the way through jnrs until late in his draft year, you couldn’t split Gallucci with McGrath...McGrath shone in the nationals and Gallucci didn’t get much mid time and has never played mid at Adel. Could be one of those special finds.


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[Brant]

Relieved to hear that we cannot trade pick 3 due to us off loading multiple first round picks in recent years.

You keep saying this but it isn't correct

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Pick 3, 21 & Downie this year and a likely top 4 and early 20s again next year might be enough. If we select wisely.
Add Finn and Day and that is seven top 25 picks.
Our team in 2023 could be
Scrimshaw Draft Hardwick
Day Frost Greaves
Downie Mitchell Impey
JOM Draft Wingard
Gunston Draft Draft
Trade Maginness Worpel
We need to draft two speedy mids and two KPPs the next two years. Then trade for a ruckman.

There’s been some positive reports regarding the development of Kosi, Reeves and Jeka also this year.

 

[Mojo]

Pick 3, 21 & Downie this year and a likely top 4 and early 20s again next year might be enough. If we select wisely.
Add Finn and Day and that is seven top 25 picks.
Our team in 2023 could be
Scrimshaw Draft Hardwick
Day Frost Greaves
Downie Mitchell Impey
JOM Draft Wingard
Gunston Draft Draft
Trade Maginness Worpel
We need to draft two speedy mids and two KPPs the next two years. Then trade for a ruckman.

Pick 3, 21 and Downie isn't enough to re-build our list.

 

[Walshawk]

You keep saying this but it isn't correct

Two Victorian powerhouses barred from trading their first round picks in 2020

AFL rules will handicap three teams in the upcoming trade period.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Walshawk]

Pick 3, 21 and Downie isn't enough to re-build our list.

As I posted we will also have high draft picks next year. Could be 2 & 20.

 

[Burtman]

Two Victorian powerhouses barred from trading their first round picks in 2020

AFL rules will handicap three teams in the upcoming trade period.

www.sen.com.au

All you have to do is ask the league for permission. They allowed geelong to trade theirs a few years ago, can’t see it being any different for us. But we won’t be trading it unless it’s an extremely good deal I would think

 

[Agent8686]

The problem is the age profile of our list.

Pick 3, 21 & Downie will definitely be a nice start, but with so many players in the 27+ age bracket we won't be able to replace the players leaving our club fast enough.

The draft is also a lottery. While I'm confident our recruitment team will nail most of our picks, we should also be prepared for some misses as well.

Hopefully we can complement our draft hauls with some smart cheap trades like we did with Scimshaw, Frost and Impey.

 

[BigLittleHawk]

I've heard multiple times we are talking to Melbourne's Tom McDonald and North's Polec. Polec might be a good fit but I would have thought McDonald's age wouldn't suit us.