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Jake Carlisle and Jack Lonie to sign one-year deals with trigger clause at St Kilda
St Kilda pair Jake Carlisle and Jack Lonie will sign new short-term deals after rival clubs showed little interest in the pair during the trade period.

St Kilda defender Jake Carlisle will sign a one-year contact with a second-year trigger to remain at Moorabbin.

And small forward Jack Lonie will sign a similar one-season deal with a games-based trigger for another season after failing to find interest from rivals in the trade period.

As AFL clubs assess the draft landscape after finishing the trade period the league’s delisted free agency period starts on Thursday.

If another rival had expressed strong interest in Carlisle the Saints might have considered trading him.

But while he has not yet signed his deal he will remain after a turbulent finals period where he played an excellent elimination final then rushed to be with his wife on the NSW-Victorian border for the birth of their child.

St Kilda has dangled a carrot in front of ex-Melbourne and Hawthorn defender James Frawley, open to recruiting him as defensive insurance.

But while 29-year-old Carlisle was out of the Saints side at times in 2020 he would expect to play a prominent role in the back six.

Lonie had interest from the Western Bulldogs before they secured Melbourne’s Mitch Hannan, and with the acquisition of Richmond’s Jack Higgins he will have to work hard to keep his spot.

But after 13 games in 2020 he will back himself in to earn a second year on that deal by playing a set amount of games.

St Kilda delisted defender Shane Savage this week and while GWS had some interest and met him, they have cooled and are not expected to recruit him as a delisted free agent.

The Giants, who are likely to retain Shane Mumford on their list as ruck back-up to Braydon Preuss, will instead go to the draft with five picks inside 29.

Sydney’s Robbie Fox was surprisingly delisted after 14 games alongside Jackson Thurlow, Zac Foot and Sam Gray, but the Swans have told Fox they are likely to re-rookie him.


 
Anyone able to cut through the paywall to help us see the recent HUN article: "SEEING IT DIFFERENTLY: INSIDE THE SAINTS’ DRAFT PLANS"?!?
 
StJHD said:
Anyone able to cut through the paywall to help us see the recent HUN article: "SEEING IT DIFFERENTLY: INSIDE THE SAINTS’ DRAFT PLANS"?!?
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AFL Draft 2020: St Kilda recruiting boss on the Saints’ draft plans and how they team worked during the COVID pandemic
St Kilda’s recruiting team has just completed the most extraordinary year of their careers. Here’s how they did and what they are planning to do at the draft.

Jon Ralph

St Kilda will leave a list spot open for a summer train-on rookie or mid-season pick early next year as it prioritises another key forward in December 9’s national draft.

Saints recruiting boss Chris Liberatore and his team will take two or three picks into the draft, with the club currently holding selections 21, 64, 67, 74 and 93.

That team has just finished the most extraordinary season of their careers, having put together a draft order from thousands of hours of footage, zoom interviews and a handful of games they watched live.

The Saints are in the envious position of having a talent-laden list in the right age demographic with few list holes, which is why they can favour the search for a key-forward if the right one is still available at their call.

As Liberatore said on Sunday, while this year’s version of junior prodigy Hunter Clark would always be selected on the back of strong Under-16 form, Nick Coffield might not have been given he was a late-developing top-10 pick.

The Saint list management team will enter the draft confident they have done enough work to secure quality talent despite all of Victoria’s NAB League kids missing an entire season of football.

But as Liberatore admitted, every list manager has had to think on their feet while recruiting in the age of COVID.

“It’s been bizarre. In the first few months of the year, you prepared as usual and then in the space of a week it changed quickly. We were stood down and everyone had individual circumstances. My wife is a physio and we have two little boys so she worked more and I looked after the kids.

“We weren’t even sure if there was going to be a draft and then we thought they might raise the draft age to 19 which would have wiped out all the kids turning 18 this year. Then we get a sense it was going to be 18-year-olds, then the South Australian and WA boys came back.

“Then we all came back to work and it was basically trying to find a way to get the best results we could in the circumstances.”

Liberatore watched several weeks of NAB League trials early in the year and mid-season was able to watch a handful of draft contenders play scratch matches in country leagues.

He even got to watch some top draft contenders, including Ollie Henry in a Geelong College-St Josephs hitout.

“I remember walking away from the ground with (Dogs recruiter) Dom Milesi and it looked like we were about to go back into heavy lockdown and we said to each other, ‘we might need to put a fair bit of weight onto that game’. The next day we were locked down.”

The Saints had part-time recruiters watching WAFL and SANFL games and full-time recruiter Chris Toche went through quarantine to watch the back-end of the SANFL season.

Liberatore says recruiters can still form an accurate picture of a player’s talent through watching footage and combining it with statistics.

“The accuracy of coding (a player’s highlights) is pretty good, but it’s not perfect,” he said.

“What it does show doesn’t lie. It’s more what it doesn’t show which is what you miss. So they don’t code it if a kid fumbles. It doesn’t show the lazy effort where a kid can’t be bothered chasing.

“So it can still miss things, but you can also back yourself in. If you have seen a kid enough you can show the coaches 25 clips of him winning really clean contested balls.

“If he is clean and tough it’s pretty rare to miss little moments where he might be scared.

“We had a few months where we watched 25 to 30 hours a week of footage and it’s all we were doing. That was our life for a month or two in August and September but all the recruiters are in the same boat.”
 

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BrutThough said:
AFL Draft 2020: St Kilda recruiting boss on the Saints’ draft plans and how they team worked during the COVID pandemic
St Kilda’s recruiting team has just completed the most extraordinary year of their careers. Here’s how they did and what they are planning to do at the draft.

Jon Ralph

St Kilda will leave a list spot open for a summer train-on rookie or mid-season pick early next year as it prioritises another key forward in December 9’s national draft.

Saints recruiting boss Chris Liberatore and his team will take two or three picks into the draft, with the club currently holding selections 21, 64, 67, 74 and 93.

That team has just finished the most extraordinary season of their careers, having put together a draft order from thousands of hours of footage, zoom interviews and a handful of games they watched live.

The Saints are in the envious position of having a talent-laden list in the right age demographic with few list holes, which is why they can favour the search for a key-forward if the right one is still available at their call.

As Liberatore said on Sunday, while this year’s version of junior prodigy Hunter Clark would always be selected on the back of strong Under-16 form, Nick Coffield might not have been given he was a late-developing top-10 pick.

The Saint list management team will enter the draft confident they have done enough work to secure quality talent despite all of Victoria’s NAB League kids missing an entire season of football.

But as Liberatore admitted, every list manager has had to think on their feet while recruiting in the age of COVID.

“It’s been bizarre. In the first few months of the year, you prepared as usual and then in the space of a week it changed quickly. We were stood down and everyone had individual circumstances. My wife is a physio and we have two little boys so she worked more and I looked after the kids.

“We weren’t even sure if there was going to be a draft and then we thought they might raise the draft age to 19 which would have wiped out all the kids turning 18 this year. Then we get a sense it was going to be 18-year-olds, then the South Australian and WA boys came back.

“Then we all came back to work and it was basically trying to find a way to get the best results we could in the circumstances.”

Liberatore watched several weeks of NAB League trials early in the year and mid-season was able to watch a handful of draft contenders play scratch matches in country leagues.

He even got to watch some top draft contenders, including Ollie Henry in a Geelong College-St Josephs hitout.

“I remember walking away from the ground with (Dogs recruiter) Dom Milesi and it looked like we were about to go back into heavy lockdown and we said to each other, ‘we might need to put a fair bit of weight onto that game’. The next day we were locked down.”

The Saints had part-time recruiters watching WAFL and SANFL games and full-time recruiter Chris Toche went through quarantine to watch the back-end of the SANFL season.

Liberatore says recruiters can still form an accurate picture of a player’s talent through watching footage and combining it with statistics.

“The accuracy of coding (a player’s highlights) is pretty good, but it’s not perfect,” he said.

“What it does show doesn’t lie. It’s more what it doesn’t show which is what you miss. So they don’t code it if a kid fumbles. It doesn’t show the lazy effort where a kid can’t be bothered chasing.

“So it can still miss things, but you can also back yourself in. If you have seen a kid enough you can show the coaches 25 clips of him winning really clean contested balls.

“If he is clean and tough it’s pretty rare to miss little moments where he might be scared.

“We had a few months where we watched 25 to 30 hours a week of footage and it’s all we were doing. That was our life for a month or two in August and September but all the recruiters are in the same boat.”
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Tricky stuff.
And i've noticed with my own kids, they can be clumsy as all shit after they go through a growth spurt.
 
BrutThough said:
AFL Draft 2020: St Kilda recruiting boss on the Saints’ draft plans and how they team worked during the COVID pandemic
St Kilda’s recruiting team has just completed the most extraordinary year of their careers. Here’s how they did and what they are planning to do at the draft.

Jon Ralph

St Kilda will leave a list spot open for a summer train-on rookie or mid-season pick early next year as it prioritises another key forward in December 9’s national draft.

Saints recruiting boss Chris Liberatore and his team will take two or three picks into the draft, with the club currently holding selections 21, 64, 67, 74 and 93.

That team has just finished the most extraordinary season of their careers, having put together a draft order from thousands of hours of footage, zoom interviews and a handful of games they watched live.

The Saints are in the envious position of having a talent-laden list in the right age demographic with few list holes, which is why they can favour the search for a key-forward if the right one is still available at their call.

As Liberatore said on Sunday, while this year’s version of junior prodigy Hunter Clark would always be selected on the back of strong Under-16 form, Nick Coffield might not have been given he was a late-developing top-10 pick.

The Saint list management team will enter the draft confident they have done enough work to secure quality talent despite all of Victoria’s NAB League kids missing an entire season of football.

But as Liberatore admitted, every list manager has had to think on their feet while recruiting in the age of COVID.

“It’s been bizarre. In the first few months of the year, you prepared as usual and then in the space of a week it changed quickly. We were stood down and everyone had individual circumstances. My wife is a physio and we have two little boys so she worked more and I looked after the kids.

“We weren’t even sure if there was going to be a draft and then we thought they might raise the draft age to 19 which would have wiped out all the kids turning 18 this year. Then we get a sense it was going to be 18-year-olds, then the South Australian and WA boys came back.

“Then we all came back to work and it was basically trying to find a way to get the best results we could in the circumstances.”

Liberatore watched several weeks of NAB League trials early in the year and mid-season was able to watch a handful of draft contenders play scratch matches in country leagues.

He even got to watch some top draft contenders, including Ollie Henry in a Geelong College-St Josephs hitout.

“I remember walking away from the ground with (Dogs recruiter) Dom Milesi and it looked like we were about to go back into heavy lockdown and we said to each other, ‘we might need to put a fair bit of weight onto that game’. The next day we were locked down.”

The Saints had part-time recruiters watching WAFL and SANFL games and full-time recruiter Chris Toche went through quarantine to watch the back-end of the SANFL season.

Liberatore says recruiters can still form an accurate picture of a player’s talent through watching footage and combining it with statistics.

“The accuracy of coding (a player’s highlights) is pretty good, but it’s not perfect,” he said.

“What it does show doesn’t lie. It’s more what it doesn’t show which is what you miss. So they don’t code it if a kid fumbles. It doesn’t show the lazy effort where a kid can’t be bothered chasing.

“So it can still miss things, but you can also back yourself in. If you have seen a kid enough you can show the coaches 25 clips of him winning really clean contested balls.

“If he is clean and tough it’s pretty rare to miss little moments where he might be scared.

“We had a few months where we watched 25 to 30 hours a week of footage and it’s all we were doing. That was our life for a month or two in August and September but all the recruiters are in the same boat.”
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Very interesting read. Thanks!
 
saints man said:
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Saints invest in healthy future with AIA Australia

St Kilda Football Club is pleased to announce AIA Australia as the club’s official life, health and wellbeing partner.
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No.1 Insurer in Asia, HQ in Hong Kong.
Floated out of the ashes of US giant AIG from the GFC.
Bought their Australian operations from CBA 2 years ago.
The only "foreign" company to have a fully independent license in China and growing massively which makes me wonder if our game in China has something to do with it. Clearly just dipping a toe in the water.
Major sponsor of Tottenham Hotspurs.
Very good pick up, interested to see where this goes.
The Chinese are here.
 
Walski said:
I am impressed we got a sponsor like AIA in during this period. Is this to replace Lion Dairy? From my understanding are on their last year of contract?
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You know, if we grab a premiership in the next 2-3 years Finnis, Lethlean, etc will have statues made of them
 
sammm said:
You know, if we grab a premiership in the next 2-3 years Finnis, Lethlean, etc will have statues made of them
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Club needs to start purchasing some land in the Dandenongs now 😉

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sammm said:
You know, if we grab a premiership in the next 2-3 years Finnis, Lethlean, etc will have statues made of them
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Starting to draw the big sponsors, amazing when things start looking good everyone jumps on.
The best thing though our side is one of the youngest in the AFL and we have some jewels in the team that are only going to shine brighter.
King, Marshall , Battle , Coffield , Hunter Clark are going to be out right superstars.
Next year if Hill , Crouch , Gresham , Membery all have good years there is no reason we can't win a flag.
 
Premium said:
Starting to draw the big sponsors, amazing when things start looking good everyone jumps on.
The best thing though our side is one of the youngest in the AFL and we have some jewels in the team that are only going to shine brighter.
King, Marshall , Battle , Coffield , Hunter Clark are going to be out right superstars.
Next year if Hill , Crouch , Gresham , Membery all have good years there is no reason we can't win a flag.
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I don't think we can win a flag next year but surely we can be top 4?
 
sammm said:
I don't think we can win a flag next year but surely we can be top 4?
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if your top 4 you're a chance for the flag
 
Mowman said:
if your top 4 you're a chance for the flag
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People were saying we would not make the 8 last year , anyway if you look at the improvement in our team we could do anything and looking at a few of our star players who really had seasons they would like to forget like Membery , Hill , Ross and even Billings never performed like we wanted I can only expect a vast improvement considering we now have gained a player in the midfield we have sought after for years.
Even this year if we had Crouch , Gresham , Long and Carlisle in the final against the Tigers who knows how the team would of went.
 
Premium said:
People were saying we would not make the 8 last year , anyway if you look at the improvement in our team we could do anything and looking at a few of our star players who really had seasons they would like to forget like Membery , Hill , Ross and even Billings never performed like we wanted I can only expect a vast improvement considering we now have gained a player in the midfield we have sought after for years.
Even this year if we had Crouch , Gresham , Long and Carlisle in the final against the Tigers who knows how the team would of went.
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Things go up and down all the time.
We could see Butler have a quiet year now, but hopefully it would co-incide with Membrey or Hill going well.
We now have enough decent players that we are not relying on any one player to have a good year.
 
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We've worked AIA Australia to develop some easy health and wellbeing choices tried and tested by Saints players, that you can make to look after yourself throughout the day. Here's how to get started.
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In this video, Ben Robbins looks like he's got little 5 year olds clinging to his legs like my boys do when they are trying to make me laugh and get a ride on my feet lol.
 

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St Kilda footy boss details brutal nature of COVID-19 enforced list cuts

St Kilda footy boss Simon Lethlean has opened up about the brutal nature of coronavirus-related list cuts at the Saints in recent weeks. He admits the club was forced to cut ties with a handful of players who likely would have stayed under normal circumstances. “(It was) really unpleasant...
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sammm said:
www.3aw.com.au

St Kilda footy boss details brutal nature of COVID-19 enforced list cuts

St Kilda footy boss Simon Lethlean has opened up about the brutal nature of coronavirus-related list cuts at the Saints in recent weeks. He admits the club was forced to cut ties with a handful of players who likely would have stayed under normal circumstances. “(It was) really unpleasant...
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Parker is the only one I would’ve kept.

Great to hear about Ryder, watch this space :thumbsu:
 
What do people think about this?
Better sponsorship?

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Pepper back Saints community

Pepper Money has thrown its support behind the Saints yet again, recommitting as Co-Principal Partner of the club for 2021.
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ScrappyDo said:
We take what we can get atm. Big name sponsors aren't knocking on our door just yet.
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i am just wondinering if the sponsorship has gone down?
 
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