Unofficial Preview 2022 Best 22

[Jen2310]

Agree. The only shining light is De Geoy who is in trouble atm. But if Grundy picks up, Pendlebury and Adams have a good season and we develop a few of Daicos, Macrae, Mcinnis and Poulter we might be okay.

Don't forget our star recruit, who will break out in 2022. Watch this space for the eclipse.

Pendles and sidebottom to transition out of the midfield to make way for the new gen.

 

[jjsmitty8]

I dunno about best 22, but this is 22 I’d like to see:

B: I.Quaynor, J.Roughead, J.Howe
HB: B.Maynard, D.Moore, S.Pendlebury
C: P.Lipinski, T.Adams, J.Daicos
HF: J.Elliott, D.Cameron, S.Sidebottom
F: B.McCreery, B.Mihocek, O.Henry
R: B.Grundy, J.De Goey*, J.Crisp
INT: N.Daicos, F.Macrae, N.Krueger, WHE

This was actually a lot harder than I thought it’d be because I’d really love to have Poulter, Bianco and Ginny in there too. I’m also really looking forward to a debut from Chuggy, Reef, LMac and AJ too hopefully.

But the likes of Brown x2, Ruscoe, Cox, Noble and Madgen who aren’t universally loved players might be ahead of some of the above mentioned names.

 

[Nuffsaid]

I hate to rip apart your team lol But what gives you the idea Lippa will be playing wing?

Probably because generally I have no idea! . I just like wingers to have big tanks and great skills and from what I have read of your great work, he fits the mould. I do get that probably won’t happen but it’s what I would look at.

 

[Jen2310]

Probably because generally I have no idea! . I just like wingers to have big tanks and great skills and from what I have read of your great work, he fits the mould. I do get that probably won’t happen but it’s what I would look at.

Understandable.. And he can play wing as proved at the dogs. It's just not the position I've seen him play for the last 2 months. It seems they have him earmarked for inside mid who can drift forward.
Our wingers seem to be Poulter, WHE (who may play more forward who knows) Daicos, Noble, newly positioned Draper. (from today's match sim at least) Sidebottom might play there as well if not, forward you think.

When you can do this, who can blame them

 

[neilk]

Understandable.. And he can play wing as proved at the dogs. It's just not the position I've seen him play for the last 2 months. It seems they have him earmarked for inside mid who can drift forward.
Our wingers seem to be Poulter, WHE (who may play more forward who knows) Daicos, Noble, newly positioned Draper. (from today's match sim at least) Sidebottom might play there as well if not, forward you think.

When you can do this, who can blame them

Who was on him at the bounce? Looked like Tyler Brown but the number doesn't match.

 

[Jen2310]

Who was on him at the bounce? Looked like Tyler Brown but the number doesn't match.

Yeah that’s Tyler


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[neilk]

Yeah that’s Tyler


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Thanks Jen. Your man seemed to easily dispose of Tyler to get the clearance.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Oh.
This is not something new. Has been training there since November when pre-season began. Even before he got re-injured

This is just changing of the guard to make room for the new gen midfield.

Still wouldn’t read too much into it.

 

[Jen2310]

Still wouldn’t read too much into it.

I would.
You're not playing in the midfield if you're not training there. Not even in match sims.

Its like training in the backline if you're a forward.

He is making room for Lippa. And Macrae/Reef. This is just the way its happening.

 

[Jen2310]

Thanks Jen. Your man seemed to easily dispose of Tyler to get the clearance.

Lippa has more strength and pace from Tyler I imagine. Though Tyler also has a good endurance base He was pretty consistent at the top end with the beep tests.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I would.
You're not playing in the midfield if you're not training there. Not even in match sims.

Its like training in the backline if you're a forward.

He is making room for Lippa. And Macrae/Reef. This is just the way its happening.

He’s the captain and remains consistently our best mid. Others will need to make the case they’re more deserving of the midfield time before he’s usurped. Currently, none of those mentioned are even in that discussion. You actually substantially diminish midfield performance by doing it prematurely and we’re hardly in a position to do that deliberately.

Particularly when you’re suggesting he play defence and IMHO he’s not good enough to justify selection there ahead of the incumbents. He’s shown he’s useful as a +1 behind the footy but that’s a luxury 6-6-6 quells.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Lippa has more strength and pace from Tyler I imagine. Though Tyler also has a good endurance base He was pretty consistent at the top end with the beep tests.

I’d be very surprised if he was quicker than T Brown.

 

[Jen2310]

He’s the captain and remains consistently our best mid. Others will need to make the case they’re more deserving of the midfield time before he’s usurped. Currently, none of those mentioned are even in that discussion. You actually substantially diminish midfield performance by doing it prematurely and we’re hardly in a position to do that deliberately.

Particularly when you’re suggesting he play defence and IMHO he’s not good enough to justify selection there ahead of the incumbents. He’s shown he’s useful as a +1 behind the footy but that’s a luxury 6-6-6 quells.

He may play some mid minutes. Similar to crisp has done off the half back line. Doubt he attends many centre bounces though, but might see him run through the middle at times. But his role as a full time midfielder is over.

Maxwell confirmed this on SEN. That he would play predominately half back with a little bit midfield.

Maxy says "He'll be playing some footy at half back as he reads the ball so well and set the play up for us, will go through the midfield at stages, but we need to find out more about these young midfielders coming through."

"But we want to see Reef Mcinnes and Fin Macrae and that kind of those guys for extended periods of times through the midfield and give them that time to deveop, so scotty will be spending time down at half back."

 

[Jen2310]

I’d be very surprised if he was quicker than T Brown.

Yeah I'm not sure. But he got away from him pretty easily. Is Tyler quick?

 

[creamPIES]

I’ll give the best 22 a crack
B:howe, Roughead, maynard
HBendles, moore, IQ
C: j.daicos, adams, Sidey
HF:Elliott, mihocek, JDG
F: Mcreery, cameron, henry
R: Grundy, lipinski, crisp
Bench: Ginni, n.daicos, macrae, reef

Wow doing this does make you wonder how we are one of the favourites for the spoon, ruscoe, noble, WHE, 2x brown, poulter, bianco, kreuger, dean all should be pushing for selection. Maybe it’s a bias view but our talent stacks up against some of the best, think we are heavily underrated this year, just can’t see how we could possibly finish bottom 4 with this sort of talent. Key forward is still a big problem, it’ll be interesting to see whether they will be willing to start Krueger and cameron. Definitely an exciting year to come

 

[Gone Critical]

He may play some mid minutes. Similar to crisp has done off the half back line. Doubt he attends many centre bounces though, but might see him run through the middle at times. But his role as a full time midfielder is over.

Maxwell confirmed this on SEN. That he would play predominately half back with a little bit midfield.

Maxy says "He'll be playing some footy at half back as he reads the ball so well and set the play up for us, will go through the midfield at stages, but we need to find out more about these young midfielders coming through."

"But we want to see Reef Mcinnes and Fin Macrae and that kind of those guys for extended periods of times through the midfield and give them that time to deveop, so scotty will be spending time down at half back."

I actually interpreted Maxwells comments as saying he will play some time half back as well as going through the middle. Didnt get a feel that meant predominantly HB

I would see our mainstays in the centre square being De Goey, Adams and Pendles once we get to matches. Lipinski, Sidey, J Daicos, Crisp and Elliott all capable of supplementing that and the youngsters Reef, Finn and Nick D to get some exposure. I doubt for the last 3 it would be extended periods. They are unlikely to be ready for those loads and 1st job will be to secure a best 22 spot. ND should slot in during the season but Finn and Reef may need to battle a bit for games. Brown bros also aiming for those mid spots but for now I think they will be down the pecking order.

 

[Gone Critical]

I’ll give the best 22 a crack
B:howe, Roughead, maynard
HBendles, moore, IQ
C: j.daicos, adams, Sidey
HF:Elliott, mihocek, JDG
F: Mcreery, cameron, henry
R: Grundy, lipinski, crisp
Bench: Ginni, n.daicos, macrae, reef

Wow doing this does make you wonder how we are one of the favourites for the spoon, ruscoe, noble, WHE, 2x brown, poulter, bianco, kreuger, dean all should be pushing for selection. Maybe it’s a bias view but our talent stacks up against some of the best, think we are heavily underrated this year, just can’t see how we could possibly finish bottom 4 with this sort of talent. Key forward is still a big problem, it’ll be interesting to see whether they will be willing to start Krueger and cameron. Definitely an exciting year to come

I think that team would struggle in 22, I wouldnt have as many kids, Ginni, McCreery, ND, Fin, Henry, Reef in at one time. Our kids show some promise but most lists have a core of young players that have shown more than ours. Some of our top end is getting older and in decline so we need to reduce expectations a little. Pendles, Sidey, Rough, Howe. Its not all bad but hard to argue we are not in rebuild mode with a bottom part of the ladder finish our most likely result. I think we are well behind the top 8 sides currently

 

[Jen2310]

I actually interpreted Maxwells comments as saying he will play some time half back as well as going through the middle. Didnt get a feel that meant predominantly HB

I would see our mainstays in the centre square being De Goey, Adams and Pendles once we get to matches. Lipinski, Sidey, J Daicos, Crisp and Elliott all capable of supplementing that and the youngsters Reef, Finn and Nick D to get some exposure. I doubt for the last 3 it would be extended periods. They are unlikely to be ready for those loads and 1st job will be to secure a best 22 spot. ND should slot in during the season but Finn and Reef may need to battle a bit for games. Brown bros also aiming for those mid spots but for now I think they will be down the pecking order.

He'll roll through the middle, as some half backs usually do, but doubt we'd see him in the starting midfield or centre bounces. That was my take from it. Because they want to see more of the younger guys in there.

I think the starting midfield will be Adams. Lipinski. and either crisp/and whomever fights for that position from the youngsters

De Goey/Lipinski will alternate between mid/forward, so if one is at centre bounce, the other will be down forward.

Today de goey played 100% forward. Lippa was 100% in the middle.

 

[Gone Critical]

He'll roll through the middle, as some half backs usually do, but doubt we'd see him in the starting midfield or centre bounces. That was my take from it. Because they want to see more of the younger guys in there.

I think the starting midfield will be Adams. Lipinski. and either crisp/and whomever fights for that position from the youngsters

De Goey/Lipinski will alternate between mid/forward, so if one is at centre bounce, the other will be down forward.

Today de goey played 100% forward. Lippa was 100% in the middle.

I would be shocked if Pendles doesn't attend plenty of centre bounces and would expect he would start there most of the time. We need his skill and leadership there

De Goey also should be certain starter, assuming good fitness. Lippa still needs to claim his spot in the 22, early signs look good from reports but match sims among teammates wont mean anything once the 2 practicce matches occur which wont mean anything once the real stuff occurs. For year 6 guys like Call Brown and Lippa who havent yet got a spot in the 22 thats when the real fight begins.

We have a group of older not yet established mids in the Brown Bros and Lippa along with the younger few game mids like Fin, Bianco, Poulter and the no games yet group, Reef, Draper, Harrison, Murley and Nick D all looking for spots in the 22 over the next 12-24 months. It will be pretty brutal as young Rantall found out. Played ok in our last match as a member of the 22 then gone. Will happen to quite a number of these kids

Lippa and Call Brown 6 years in the system, not established best 22, same age, similar games. I would favour Lippa at this point clearly and I think Call will be gone at years end. Still if Call recaptures 2019 and Lippa cant take his chances they may reverse their current standing.

Tying De Goey and Lippa as alternates for the same possie cant be right. Lippa just isnt anywhere near Jordys potential and known output. Jordy will be our centre sq starter and will spend a lot of time in their and Lippa may get some relieving duties along with others is a much more likely senario. Your top mids spend as much time as possible at the coalface. Thats where Jordy will be.

 

[Jen2310]

I would be shocked if Pendles doesn't attend plenty of centre bounces and would expect he would start there most of the time. We need his skill and leadership there

De Goey also should be certain starter, assuming good fitness. Lippa still needs to claim his spot in the 22, early signs look good from reports but match sims among teammates wont mean anything once the 2 practicce matches occur which wont mean anything once the real stuff occurs. For year 6 guys like Call Brown and Lippa who havent yet got a spot in the 22 thats when the real fight begins.

We have a group of older not yet established mids in the Brown Bros and Lippa along with the younger few game mids like Fin, Bianco, Poulter and the no games yet group, Reef, Draper, Harrison, Murley and Nick D all looking for spots in the 22 over the next 12-24 months. It will be pretty brutal as young Rantall found out. Played ok in our last match as a member of the 22 then gone. Will happen to quite a number of these kids

Lippa and Call Brown 6 years in the system, not established best 22, same age, similar games. I would favour Lippa at this point clearly and I think Call will be gone at years end. Still if Call recaptures 2019 and Lippa cant take his chances they may reverse their current standing.

Tying De Goey and Lippa as alternates for the same possie cant be right. Lippa just isnt anywhere near Jordys potential and known output. Jordy will be our centre sq starter and will spend a lot of time in their and Lippa may get some relieving duties along with others is a much more likely senario. Your top mids spend as much time as possible at the coalface. Thats where Jordy will be.

You cant really attend many centre bounces if you are starting off half back I wouldn't think, but when Maxwell mentioned "through the midfield" I just saw it as float through the middle of the ground, not actually starting there or even going to much centre bounces.
Maxwell mentioned that they like his read off half back and setting up the play from back there. Also his leadership will help Nick too.

Yeah Jordy and Lippa don't really play the same forward role. Lippa more half forward, and Jordy more deep forward, so its not a like for like. But not sure they can both play midfield at the same time unless someone else is on the bench or forward. Suppose we'll see how that works out.
Though Lippa doesnt really spent much time forward. Its more 85-90% middle and small amount as he drifts forward.

The midfield wont be the same old as it has been, hence for the new breed of next gen mids. The kids will get a lot of mid time than they had before, and you'll find Lippa predominantely there. Tay too, and so someone has to go out.. which is probably why they have re-invented Pendles role for this year.

 

[Gone Critical]

You cant really attend many centre bounces if you are starting off half back I wouldn't think, but when Maxwell mentioned "through the midfield" I just saw it as float through the middle of the ground, not actually starting there or even going to much centre bounces.
Maxwell mentioned that they like his read off half back and setting up the play from back there. Also his leadership will help Nick too.

Yeah Jordy and Lippa don't really play the same forward role. Lippa more half forward, and Jordy more deep forward, so its not a like for like. But not sure they can both play midfield at the same time unless someone else is on the bench or forward. Suppose we'll see how that works out.
Though Lippa doesnt really spent much time forward. Its more 85-90% middle and small amount as he drifts forward.

The midfield wont be the same old as it has been, hence for the new breed of next gen mids. The kids will get a lot of mid time than they had before, and you'll find Lippa predominantely there. Tay too, and so someone has to go out.. which is probably why they have re-invented Pendles role for this year.

Not sure you can really lock Lippa into the 22 yet. He needs to win a spot in the praccie games. I doubt he is yet at the level to be locked in centre square player.

 

[Jen2310]

Not sure you can really lock Lippa into the 22 yet. He needs to win a spot in the praccie games. I doubt he is yet at the level to be locked in centre square player.

yeah, suppose we'll see how he goes in the pre-season games. But the signs are good. I do think he'll quickly become best 22.

 

[Mick F]

yeah, suppose we'll see how he goes in the pre-season games. But the signs are good. I do think he'll quickly become best 22.

I agree with you. If you are a decent footballer AND in the top five on the track, a new coach is picking you.

It reaffirms the message that if you train hard and present yourself, you shall be given opportunities.

 

[Gone Critical]

yeah, suppose we'll see how he goes in the pre-season games. But the signs are good. I do think he'll quickly become best 22.

Especially based on your reports I am very hopeful thats true. Seems a great kid giving it a red hot go. Good to give him a chance to settle in also. Just needs to be best 22 at this point, if goes Crisp like trajectory all the better.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Yeah I'm not sure. But he got away from him pretty easily. Is Tyler quick?

Quicker than average I’d have thought. I actually thought Lipinski got him off balance with the body work which gave him the ascendancy. Being off balance also impacted Browns acceleration in terms of getting the power down. In terms of head to head pace though I wouldn’t have thought there’d be much 8n it. I guess we’ll know more once the season gets underway.