Strategy 2022 Planning Thread

[Seymour Skinner]

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Howe and Treloar gonna be two absolute bargains.

 

[pincrusher]

Howe and Treloar gonna be two absolute bargains.

Treloar might be worth a look depending on preseaon fitness, but you have to be challenging yourself to reach the no trades club before Judd_Magic if you pick Howe. 32YO next year, hasn't played every game since 2015 and has only played 12 games in the last two years.

 

[Judd_Magic]

Treloar might be worth a look depending on preseaon fitness, but you have to be challenging yourself to reach the no trades club before Judd_Magic if you pick Howe. 32YO next year, hasn't played every game since 2015 and has only played 12 games in the last two years.

Hey I lasted till last week with 1 trade left thank you very much.

 

[Loose at HB]

Steering well away from Ridley and Whitfield next year.
Ridley too suspectible to playing an accountable role, too many fingers in the pie stealing kick ins and doesn't provide a heap of run and carry like the real seagulls (Hall, Lloyd) so doesn't get 2-3 quick cheap stats in succession to boost scoring. Too reliant on intercepts
Whitfield is made of glass and has actually only ever averaged 100+ SC twice, one of them being in COVID-inflated 2020. Trap - even if he's D/M I'd rather just pick Crisp who should be the same without the risk of missing 7 games

I think though from a GWS perspective I'd be keen on Cumming next year as a cheaper D3/maybe D4 depending on how deep I run (Hall and Stewart are locks for me). Has a monopoly on GWS kickouts, actually reasonable overhead so grabs a few intercepts and never really has to play accountable. Broke out this year to average 92 but I reckon natural progression could get him over 100 next year

 

[Silky23]

Few more players to add to the watchlist

Duncan (fwd?), Gresham (coming off achilles but should be under 300k), Fyfe (fwd?), Dunkley (fwd?), Rioli (def role), Tarryn T (mid role), Treloar (price), Fiorini (club change?), Strachan (has he overtaken ROB?), MCrouch (hip), Cogs (injury but price) Rayner (ACL?) Paton (coming off broken leg but should be elevated rookie price with good JS) Milera/Marchbank (same thing as Paton) Gunston (cheap), Serong (if Cerra leaves I'm all over him)

Also Elijah Hollands is nearly the biggest 123k rookie lock for next year.

All I can think of for now apart from the obvious ones.

 

[Silky23]

Steering well away from Ridley and Whitfield next year.
Ridley too suspectible to playing an accountable role, too many fingers in the pie stealing kick ins and doesn't provide a heap of run and carry like the real seagulls (Hall, Lloyd) so doesn't get 2-3 quick cheap stats in succession to boost scoring. Too reliant on intercepts
Whitfield is made of glass and has actually only ever averaged 100+ SC twice, one of them being in COVID-inflated 2020. Trap - even if he's D/M I'd rather just pick Crisp who should be the same without the risk of missing 7 games

I think though from a GWS perspective I'd be keen on Cumming next year as a cheaper D3/maybe D4 depending on how deep I run (Hall and Stewart are locks for me). Has a monopoly on GWS kickouts, actually reasonable overhead so grabs a few intercepts and never really has to play accountable. Broke out this year to average 92 but I reckon natural progression could get him over 100 next year

It's interesting, no Whitfield and Perryman for large portions of the year led to Cumming taking the majority of kick ins but Whitfield is easily their most creative half backer and best ball user. Whitfield should be used exactly like Hall is but isn't. I'm interested to see what they do with Whit because there is zero room for him in the engine room or the wings so his spot is on the HBF and taking kick ins imo, which comes at the cost of Cumming.

 

[crippler9]

It's interesting, no Whitfield and Perryman for large portions of the year led to Cumming taking the majority of kick ins but Whitfield is easily their most creative half backer and best ball user. Whitfield should be used exactly like Hall is but isn't. I'm interested to see what they do with Whit because there is zero room for him in the engine room or the wings so his spot is on the HBF and taking kick ins imo, which comes at the cost of Cumming.

Cameron switches the magnets around blokes got too much talent on the list

 

[Silky23]

Cameron switches the magnets around blokes got too much talent on the list

It's a great luxury to have. It's why we saw Kelly in the forward line, Taranto as well.. They've paid all four of Cogs Kelly Whit and Greene now so they are their guys. Won't be surprised to see some of TT, Green, Hopper etc leave.

But beside the point - Ward, Cogs, TT, Hopper, Green, Kelly is their engine room, Perryman and Whitfield their gadget guys. Cumming is a nice size who can play bigger so wouldn't be surprised if Whitfield has a sexy role next year, especially off a huge PS which he didn't get this year.

 

[Loose at HB]

It's interesting, no Whitfield and Perryman for large portions of the year led to Cumming taking the majority of kick ins but Whitfield is easily their most creative half backer and best ball user. Whitfield should be used exactly like Hall is but isn't. I'm interested to see what they do with Whit because there is zero room for him in the engine room or the wings so his spot is on the HBF and taking kick ins imo, which comes at the cost of Cumming.

This is baffling to me (not that you've said it, more Leon and the way he structures GWS) because everything about Whitfield is what I want in a wingman. Runs all day, hard at it (made of glass but he's not soft), intelligent and is exactly the kind of player I want delivering the ball inside 50.

His skills are wasted deep in D50 IMO and his tank is too off a back flank. But I still think Cumming has enough tools to project 100+ with progression even if he has to share kick ins with Whitfield

 

[Silky23]

This is baffling to me (not that you've said it, more Leon and the way he structures GWS) because everything about Whitfield is what I want in a wingman. Runs all day, hard at it (made of glass but he's not soft), intelligent and is exactly the kind of player I want delivering the ball inside 50.

His skills are wasted deep in D50 IMO and his tank is too off a back flank. But I still think Cumming has enough tools to project 100+ with progression even if he has to share kick ins with Whitfield

Oh absolutely, but I think GWS are a better team with him getting 35 touches and 800m gained from the backline vs 20 touches one week and a tag or 30 and a goal here and there. Playing wing in modern AFL is hard, it's not the gut runners role anymore with the stand rule, it's a quick elusive run and dash type which Whitfield is but he can set up so much more attacking forays from the D50 then sitting him on a wing.

Especially when you already have Perryman occupying one wing, and Kelly on the other when the GWS team is fit in the engine room. You also have Ash who is young and Heater's clone but he isn't ready yet to occupy that role and he's even played up the wing more too.

 

[Loose at HB]

Oh absolutely, but I think GWS are a better team with him getting 35 touches and 800m gained from the backline vs 20 touches one week and a tag or 30 and a goal here and there. Playing wing in modern AFL is hard, it's not the gut runners role anymore with the stand rule, it's a quick elusive run and dash type which Whitfield is but he can set up so much more attacking forays from the D50 then sitting him on a wing.

Especially when you already have Perryman occupying one wing, and Kelly on the other when the GWS team is fit in the engine room. You also have Ash who is young and Heater's clone but he isn't ready yet to occupy that role and he's even played up the wing more too.

I agree that the wing role has changed a lot - tbh very few true "wingmen" exist these days, oftentimes just another midfielder that pushes into the stoppage after the centre bounce. I can see your point of view though re; setting up more attacking forays from D50 than a wing.

It's an embarrassment of riches though isn't it - when you can afford to sit Tim Taranto in a forward pocket and effectively play Lachie Whitfield wherever you have a hole in a given week. Ash is an interesting one - hasn't looked great behind the ball so far at AFL level, looks better in the play IMO

 

[stevebbb]

I had a quick look at previous averages and starting prices and come up with the following. Not super accurate, but close enough I reckon. If anybody is bored in lockdown and wants to mess around with a potential starting side

lloyd 585k
hall 570k
stewart 585k
short 525k

macrae 695k
steele 680k
miller 665k
oliver 660k
titch 650k
neale 540k
bont 655k

gawn 650k
darcy 640k
grundy 620k
mcinerney 500k

marshall 525k
de goey 460k
thomas 460k


if there's any I've clearly messed up, let me know

 

[stevebbb]

forget about Team Picker, this is Steve Picker

well that's not going to work lol, back to the drawing board

 

[stevebbb]

Seriously looking at BigO McInerney as a breakout contender. Averaged 110.6 since his bye
He'll be about $500k

 

[crippler9]

Seriously looking at BigO McInerney as a breakout contender. Averaged 110.6 since his bye
He'll be about $500k

I think a finals SuperCoach would have been awesome. I remember years ago their was one for afl fantasy must be abolished now aye?

 

[stevebbb]

I think a finals SuperCoach would have been awesome. I remember years ago their was one for afl fantasy must be abolished now aye?

SC Finals was a thing a few years ago, but yeah, they got rid of it

 

[Deliverance]

Howe and Treloar gonna be two absolute bargains.

 

[gutsroy]

I had a quick look at previous averages and starting prices and come up with the following. Not super accurate, but close enough I reckon. If anybody is bored in lockdown and wants to mess around with a potential starting side

lloyd 585k
hall 570k
stewart 585k
short 525k

macrae 695k
steele 680k
miller 665k
oliver 660k
titch 650k
neale 540k
bont 655k

gawn 650k
darcy 640k
grundy 620k
mcinerney 500k

marshall 525k
de goey 460k
thomas 460k


if there's any I've clearly messed up, let me know

If anyone wants a full-ish list, here you go (it's a gsheet, should be open to every person and their canine pal).
Can change your assumptions on discounts depending on n games played etc. if you're keen.
No bells and whistles, no customer support.
Has a very simple picker tab (enter name of player in cell, the price appears etc.)
Didn't make any attempt to apply 2022 positions, but it's all searchable on the 2021 positions and names.



Prices:


Change your games played discount assumptions here (for rookies, a different logic is applied):



Team Price Calculator (it's just a sample to test if it basically works, please leave the ROFLcopters in the hangars):


Caveat emptor, all rights reserved, tip your waitresses, be kind to your pets, don't punch horses in the face even if you're having a bad day and have a good off-season.
There will definitely be cases where the assumptions will not be correct, there might be some names missing etc., it doesn't really matter a heap.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

I reckon very early on I’d be looking at something like

Lloyd, Short, McDonald, Young/Howe

Macrae, Laird, Neale, Crouch/Treloar, Coniglio

Grundy, Marshall

Dunkley, Hunter, Butters

And full with rookies and whoever pops up in preseason.

 

[Deliverance]

If anyone wants a full-ish list, here you go (it's a gsheet, should be open to every person and their canine pal).
Can change your assumptions on discounts depending on n games played etc. if you're keen.
No bells and whistles, no customer support.
Has a very simple picker tab (enter name of player in cell, the price appears etc.)
Didn't make any attempt to apply 2022 positions, but it's all searchable on the 2021 positions and names.



Prices:
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Change your games played discount assumptions here (for rookies, a different logic is applied):
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Team Price Calculator (it's just a sample to test if it basically works, please leave the ROFLcopters in the hangars):
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Caveat emptor, all rights reserved, tip your waitresses, be kind to your pets, don't punch horses in the face even if you're having a bad day and have a good off-season.
There will definitely be cases where the assumptions will not be correct, there might be some names missing etc., it doesn't really matter a heap.

Yeo is definitely in the conversation for first picked.

 

[ImissFrosty]

I think my number one rule this year is to not pick anybody hoping they'll end up M8/D6/F6. Pick players with good value of course but only if you think they're going to make a lot of cash or be top few in their position

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

I think my number one rule this year is to not pick anybody hoping they'll end up M8/D6/F6. Pick players with good value of course but only if you think they're going to make a lot of cash or be top few in their position

For once I agree with you. They are either keepers or cash cows.

 

[ImissFrosty]

For once I agree with you. They are either keepers or cash cows.

Yep, starting Taranto probably cost me a lot of points as I didn't own any of the big SP mids really. Also trading in Keays late for him to be M8, was great for the granny but outside of that nope.

I also started Harmes and Liam Ryan hoping they'd be D6/F6 respectively, Harmes would've kinda worked too but Ryan was just dumb.

Next year, near pure G&R with a couple midpricers or breakout stars. Load up on SP mids and look for value up forward.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

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De Poey a good price.
Finn Macrae still very pickable at that price although he'll be mid only probably. Everyone will pick Daicos, hope he backs up the hype.

Parish overpriced with Shiel in the side, Caldwell might be worth it if desperate for cheap forwards (assume he's still fwd/mid)