Training 2022 Training Reports

[blue shark]

I'm not saying Banfield is no good off that game alone, I just think he's no good in general and shouldn't be anywhere near our best 22.

Has to lift his intensity, go back and watch Crowley, etc, won’t make it unless so.

 

[wayToGo_]

All good points, not sure I’m entirely ok with letting them off the hook with the midfield battle, it was bad considering the opposition but yes, Mundy and Darcy will be better off for the run. JL was also not too happy with the midfield battle going from the post match presser.

Yeah I wasn't excusing their performance, it 100% wasn't good enough, I just didn't agree with the analysis both on here, and by the commentators (talking about Fyfe playing forward and our mid depth) that it's now inevitable that we'd struggle against good midfields come the regular season. NN and Kelly got 13 of their 28 clearances. Kelly was the only player to get multiple centre clearances for them. Last week he simply didn't get the same amount of space to operate in. Darcy, Mundy and Serong all didn't get a single centre clearance - very unusual for just one of them not to get at least one. Think JL had a right not to be happy - I personally thought there was a lack of teamwork and the effort wasn't as good as it should be - both in the midfield and with our pressure forward of centre (contrast to the week before). Serong was held off the ball a lot and nobody stepped up to help him. The mid group needs to lift come round 1 but the upside of that yesterday is we often had to work our way through WC's team defence from deep in defence or half back - which is really valuable to practice imo.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yeah I wasn't excusing their performance, it 100% wasn't good enough, I just didn't agree with the analysis both on here, and by the commentators (talking about Fyfe playing forward and our mid depth) that it's now inevitable that we'd struggle against good midfields come the regular season. NN and Kelly got 13 of their 28 clearances. Kelly was the only player to get multiple centre clearances for them. Last week he simply didn't get the same amount of space to operate in. Darcy, Mundy and Serong all didn't get a single centre clearance - very unusual for just one of them not to get at least one. Think JL had a right not to be happy - I personally thought there was a lack of teamwork and the effort wasn't as good as it should be - both in the midfield and with our pressure forward of centre (contrast to the week before). Serong was held off the ball a lot and nobody stepped up to help him. The mid group needs to lift come round 1 but the upside of that yesterday is we often had to work our way through WC's team defence from deep in defence or half back - which is really valuable to practice imo.

Yeah, biggest bonus for me was that last year, if we didnt dominate the midfield, we got belted off the park. Yesterday, we were dominated in the middle but still won comfortably really. More evidence of the better skills and gameplan

 

[theGav56]

Yeah, biggest bonus for me was that last year, if we didnt dominate the midfield, we got belted off the park. Yesterday, we were dominated in the middle but still won comfortably really. More evidence of the better skills and gameplan

I'm confident that our midfield will play better than that in the season proper when there is something tangible in the line. That's regardless of Fyfe in/out, midfield/forward.

 

[blue shark]

Yeah, biggest bonus for me was that last year, if we didnt dominate the midfield, we got belted off the park. Yesterday, we were dominate in the middle but still won comfortably really. More evidence of the better skills and gameplan

We have improved the skills and speed, decision making. But look at the Hawk teams as the yard stick, and they had the players to play
unsociable footy.
Its what makes Treacy tick, and its why I'm bullish on Erasmus, we lack that killer instinct.
If we go with too many down hill skiers, we will get spanked in contested ball against the better coached, drilled teams.

 

[dont bowl there]

I'm confident that our midfield will play better than that in the season proper when there is something tangible in the line. That's regardless of Fyfe in/out, midfield/forward.

Just finished watching the game and it was very clear the Eagles intent was harder from the first bounce, they had something to prove and tbh I'm pretty happy we didn't try and match it resulting in injuries. So given that and the fact we still won the game, yeah big tick from me.

 

[Jezzitizle]

Re. Henry, you're showing a bias towards winning contests, Henry isn't in the team to win contests, he's in the team to get handed the ball on a platter for delivery inside 50. Bring in O'Driscoll and yes he'll win more contests, but he's not going to be lacing out every forward 50 entry.

Strange to be judging a players value on his weakest characteristic instead of his strengths. You don't judge a striker on his ability to slide tackle.

I thought Henry was pretty good, West Coast made sure to shut him down this week.

I judge him on putting his body on the line when it’s his turn to go, and I didn’t think he did that. It really is a bare minimum for everyone regardless of their position.

A big part of the wing role is to sit on the outside but when a ground ball spills out put your head in the hole and go after it, or if someone bursts through with the ball to lay a strong tackle.

I don’t want to overstate it because I think he will get there, but he needs to stop worrying about getting hit.

 

[blue shark]

I judge him on putting his body on the line when it’s his turn to go, and I didn’t think he did that. It really is a bare minimum for everyone regardless of their position.

A big part of the wing role is to sit on the outside but when a ground ball spills out put your head in the hole and go after it, or if someone bursts through with the ball to lay a strong tackle.

I don’t want to overstate it because I think he will get there, but he needs to stop worrying about getting hit.

Nod certainly has changed my perception on him, now that he is fitter and that take down tackle a couple of weeks ago.
We need more of that and its what Jlo needs to install into the team.
Those 1% really inspire teams, Henry will get better as you say for sure.

 

[Swiggy]

Team for round 1

Ryan. Pearce. Logue

Young. Cox. Clark

Aish. Fyfe Tucker

Frederick Tabnerner Walters

Treacy Lobb Switkowski

Darcy. Serong Brayshaw

Mundy Chapman Brodie Schulz

Sub: Henry

Think Tucker & Aish play if both fit. Coyler unlucky.

 

[Scham]

For those saying Banfield plays round 1, where are you playing him and which regular best 22 players are you leaving out to fit him in?

 

[Walkingwounded]

For those saying Banfield plays round 1, where are you playing him and which regular best 22 players are you leaving out to fit him in?

I would think they are referring to Playing for Peel in Round 1.

 

[gungho]

Team for round 1

Ryan. Pearce. Logue

Young. Cox. Clark

Aish. Fyfe Tucker

Frederick Tabnerner Walters

Treacy Lobb Switkowski

Darcy. Serong Brayshaw

Mundy Chapman Brodie Schulz

Sub: Henry

Think Tucker & Aish play if both fit. Coyler unlucky.

Great team but is it a stretch to say we will see Aish Tucker and Treacy given we haven’t seen much of them so far? I personally think treacy is important to create a contest at CHF

 

[DragoDelph]

Coaches turn

 

[BigRang]

Great team but is it a stretch to say we will see Aish Tucker and Treacy given we haven’t seen much of them so far? I personally think treacy is important to create a contest at CHF

Treacy is important because he's an actual forward that kicks actual goals.

 

[Tbonefreo]

I judge him on putting his body on the line when it’s his turn to go, and I didn’t think he did that. It really is a bare minimum for everyone regardless of their position.

A big part of the wing role is to sit on the outside but when a ground ball spills out put your head in the hole and go after it, or if someone bursts through with the ball to lay a strong tackle.

I don’t want to overstate it because I think he will get there, but he needs to stop worrying about getting hit.

He is a twig. If he put his body on the line against say Nelson or anyone really of that size he will wake up in the next week. He doesn't have that size yet.
I didn't see any squibs like what Acres did.


In saying that some of the things I really liked:

Acres goal!
Banana on the run from Darcy.
Something about Meek. Turning into a personal favourite just by being a pure goer. Love those types.
Tabs everywhere in the first half, handing off goals.
Crowdens left foot.

I get worried every time Young gets tackled. Every single time.

 

[Tbonefreo]

Oh and Chapman. Rising star

 

[anchor man]

I really want the current topic to die in this thread but I find it really hard to let this one go. Judd peak was arguably the most absurd match winning force ever to grace the field. The only argument against his greatnes was the relative short time frame of his career but to suggest he might not have been as good as Voss and Acker is absurd

Aker and Voss constantly changed the run of games at vital stages. Maybe as a pairing, it helped, but I would take either of them .
Remember the GF that Buckley wrongly won the Smith medal. Voss changed the course several times during the game. The game was still up for grabs when the medalist, Buckley was given the votes. Then Voss lifted and changed the course of the game in the last few minutes. Brissie won. Who won it for them!! Michael Voss.
The voting was changed after this game to wait until after the game finished before the votes were calculated.
But I guess it is all conjecture as to who was best. Your pick against mine.

 

[anchor man]

Meek was the best of the three of them on the day.

Don’t agree with you on the backline. I thought Chapman and Ryan great, everyone else okay to poor.

Clark !!! No mention, or was he poor?

 

[theGav56]

Clark !!! No mention, or was he poor?

He had a really good third quarter, and a reasonable game generally.

 

[DeanS]

Team for round 1

Ryan. Pearce. Logue

Young. Cox. Clark

Aish. Fyfe Tucker

Frederick Tabnerner Walters

Treacy Lobb Switkowski

Darcy. Serong Brayshaw

Mundy Chapman Brodie Schulz

Sub: Henry

Think Tucker & Aish play if both fit. Coyler unlucky.

Don't think I've ever seen a first round team that had 4 players who hadn't played in any scratchie in it.

 

[Dockeroo]

Clark !!! No mention, or was he poor?

He did some good things but also some stupid things. He’s great in attack, but jeez his handballing is average. Momentum killing id nearly call it. It should be a very coachable thing to improve however. He’s got a high ceiling I think

 

[_007_]

Where is Brandon Walker? He is probably the player that excited me the most last year and he seems to have dropped off the edge of the Earth. Doesn't seem the type to put in a poor offseason.

 

[pK75]

Where is Brandon Walker? He is probably the player that excited me the most last year and he seems to have dropped off the edge of the Earth. Doesn't seem the type to put in a poor offseason.

Lost his spot to Clark, but I’m with you, he really excites me. Maybe with Wilson being injured he’ll get a run, we look a tad slow in the backline if we don’t replace Wilson with Walker.

 

[freodog]

Lost his spot to Clark, but I’m with you, he really excites me. Maybe with Wilson being injured he’ll get a run, we look a tad slow in the backline if we don’t replace Wilson with Walker.

Absolutely, perfect replacement for Wilson

 

[Scham]

Absolutely, perfect replacement for Wilson

If he continues to develop on what he showed last year he'll not only be a replacement but an upgrade.