Training 2022 Training Reports

[dropbear101]

also i've had this discussion with people on the board before. henry will take time. i thought it would be 4th or 5th season in which he pops.

I'm adamant he will be good though. its just i think he still needs to figure stuff out which takes time.
for example:
- his body; he needed to bulk up which hes has done i think from the training pictures. however, what happens when you bulk up your gut running and evasiveness takes a hit. henry is a good gut runner but not an insane one. so, i think an adjustment period.

- his running patterns; he had a problem of being 5m to late when arriving at packs when playing forward.

- mindset; he has a problem of always looking for the angle in any situation. however this means he sometimes lapses on noticing when an opposition player will get the ball. I think this is his defensive problem and not laziness like some have suggested. a different more balanced mindset between offense and defence is needed.

- Figuring out how to dominate; i think players sometimes learn to adjust to afl and become competent (which takes a few seasons sometimes). but, then require an additional few season figuring out how to dominate. this will be henry i think. an example is tabs took time to adjust 2013-2016. became a good player 2017-2019 and became dominant the past 2.


i thought all of this meant he would take 3 or 4 seasons to figure things out. however i think it inevitable he will. he keeps his body in good shape and that will be solved in time. he is a smart player and will figure out the rest with time.
liam henry for me is exactly on track in his development schedule.

 

[Westy2487]

God this thread is turning into a massive circle jerk.

 

[Dayts]

God this thread is turning into a massive circle jerk.

Wait, so who’s gonna play small forward if Henry’s on the wing ?

 

[Taylor]

One of our other midfielders we play as forwards, like Crowden, Western, Erasmus, Johnson, Brodie

 

[CapitalA]

Wait, so who’s gonna play small forward if Henry’s on the wing ?

I think it might be Erasmus or Sturt that gets a run in that forward position Henry vacates, Western doesn't seem to be up to the level yet.

 

[E Shed]

Wait, so who’s gonna play small forward if Henry’s on the wing ?

Freddy goes back to HF. He’s the pacey, pressure guy.

With Walters, Shultz, Switta, Colyer, Sturt who can all play some variation of small, fast, crafty.


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[theGav56]

I'm a long way from seeing Henry as our best option on a wing in 2022.

Actually he's borderline best 22 for me and I think the wafl being a more viable development option will be a positive for quite a few of our 20-30 range players. Playing them as automatic best 22s is not great.

 

[Jezzitizle]

I'm a long way from seeing Henry as our best option on a wing in 2022.

Actually he's borderline best 22 for me and I think the wafl being a more viable development option will be a positive for quite a few of our 20-30 range players. Playing them as automatic best 22s is not great.

He’s one of those players who will be great when it all clicks.

 

[Schauermann]

Wait, so who’s gonna play small forward if Henry’s on the wing ?

Well, he seem to play best with 3 talls (Taberner, Lobb, Treacy, perhaps a few games to Amiss when he shows something). Add Sturt, Walters, Schultz and Switta. That's already includes a bench rotation. Fyfe will likely be rested forward as well.

But I am still not 100% sure about Henry on the wing. He feels a bit like small forward to me as well. Damaging with a few touches. But increased fitness might change that perception. So wait an see...

 

[vidwhal]

Nat’s a show pony

The hardest ****in one out there, that is.

 

[wayToGo_]

Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir

Justin Longmuir

Age

45

Ht

196cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.0

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

0.6

3star

says Dockers are taking ‘cautious’ approach to prized AFL recruit Jye Amiss

Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir

Justin Longmuir

Age

45

Ht

196cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.0

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

0.6

3star

says the Dockers won’t rush prized draft recruit Jye Amiss into full training, saying the club will “have to be a little bit more patient” with the young key forward ahead of his first season in purple.

Amiss was taken with pick 8, Freo’s first selection in the 2021 draft, and was quickly touted as the solution to the Dockers’ goal-kicking woes.

The East Perth sharpshooter was deadly accurate in the WAFL colts this season, leading the competition’s goal-kicking with a deadly accurate 51.15.

The 196cm key forward impressed in the national under 19s tournament for WA before a minor knee injury in the grand final curtain raiser at Optus Stadium in September ended his season prematurely.

Longmuir said the injury had prompted the Dockers to be “a little bit cautious” with Amiss during the early stages of the Dockers’ pre-season.

“He’ll start building into full training after the Christmas break,” Longmuir told SportFM on Thursday. “We might just have to be a little bit more patient with him, even though we think we’ll get him into full (training) loads reasonably quickly.”

While his fellow local recruits Neil Erasmus (pick 10), Matt Johnson (21) and Roy Benning (51) have been able to get stuck in, Amiss says he’s eyeing a return to full fitness post-holidays.

“It was pretty hectic at the start getting to know the players and the staff,” Amiss told the South Western Times. “The training is at a high standard . . . but I’m finding my feet now and starting to get used to it.

“I was in re-conditioning for the first two weeks and then each day last week was just adding in bits of training from the sessions and the start of this week I have trained every session bar one drill.

“The knee is really fine and the body is feeling great — when I come back from Christmas I’ll be 100 per cent.”

Longmuir said big-bodied players generally take longer to develop but Amiss’ game-style could put him in contention for an earlier than usual senior debut.

“Taller players can take a little bit longer to build their bodies physically to be able to mix it with some of the key defenders in the comp,” he said.

“I think the thing on Jye’s side is that he doesn’t rely on one aspect of his game to kick goals. “He can take big contested marks, mark on the lead and also crumb and kick ground-level goals, so that’ll hold him in good stead in his development.”

The Dockers 2022 campaign kicks off against the Crows at Adelaide Oval on March 20.

 

[FD2646]

Does anyone know if training is on today?

 

[Taylor]

Does anyone know if training is on today?

It was mentioned in an article posted here earlier that the team are on Christmas break from Saturday, so hopefully?

 

[Alfonz]

The hardest fu**in one out there, that is.

Show ponies (for want of a better term) generally are tough bastards. Brereton. Mark Jackson. These days you would have the likes of Stringer, De Goey, Buddy. Also Dusty and Danger with some aspects of how they play.

The talk of Henry as a show pony (albeit from one poster) is just weird. He is a skinny kid with creativity and natural flair. These are his strengths, and the more of this he shows, the better. We should be encouraging him to play like he has tickets on himself.

 

[Dayts]

It was mentioned in an article posted here earlier that the team are on Christmas break from Saturday, so hopefully?

Yep at Gil Frasier oval today in North Fremantle.

 

[Sweetback]

The hardest fu**in one out there, that is.

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[wakojako]

Show ponies (for want of a better term) generally are tough bastards. Brereton. Mark Jackson. These days you would have the likes of Stringer, De Goey, Buddy. Also Dusty and Danger with some aspects of how they play.

The talk of Henry as a show pony (albeit from one poster) is just weird. He is a skinny kid with creativity and natural flair. These are his strengths, and the more of this he shows, the better. We should be encouraging him to play like he has tickets on himself.

I have seen multiple people on and off this board say that they get the "too cool for school" vibe from him. That is what I mean by show pony. He celebrates every goal even when we are losing.

 

[Dockeroo]

I can understand what posters mean about Henry having “show pony” vibes, even though it’s probably not the best way to describe it.
A good example was a game last year when we were getting flogged by 40 or 50 points in the third/fourth quarter. I can’t remember the exact game but it had been a demoralising effort by the team overall.
Henry kicked a junk time consolation goal and ran around celebrating with the freo fans as if he’d just put the icing on the cake of a big win for us.
Like most of the team he’d had a stinker to that point of the match.
I put it down to immaturity - hopefully he learned from that and will read the room better from now on.
for what it’s worth I see Henry’s best position as a high half forward getting 17-18 high impact touches a game, which would be awesome. Not sure he has the gut running ability for a wing position.

 

[Scham]

Show ponies (for want of a better term) generally are tough bastards. Brereton. Mark Jackson. These days you would have the likes of Stringer, De Goey, Buddy. Also Dusty and Danger with some aspects of how they play.

The talk of Henry as a show pony (albeit from one poster) is just weird. He is a skinny kid with creativity and natural flair. These are his strengths, and the more of this he shows, the better. We should be encouraging him to play like he has tickets on himself.

The expression "show pony" is totally being used incorrectly here. They were all showmen. Was Mohammed Ali a show pony? No, he wasn't. He was a showman. He could back the strut and talk up. A show pony is a good looker that doesn't perform to the looks. I wouldn't call him one, but I can certainly understand Henry being called a show pony.

 

[wayToGo_]

Any chance of a specific show pony thread to make sure this riveting convo doesn't get interrupted by pre season talk?

 

[freo84]

God this thread is turning into a massive circle jerk.

Whats wrong with a massive circle jerk? [emoji2957][emoji2957][emoji2957]

 

[Scham]

Whats wrong with a massive circle jerk? [emoji2957][emoji2957][emoji2957]

Said the private school boy...

 

[wakojako]

Any chance of a specific show pony thread to make sure this riveting convo doesn't get interrupted by pre season talk?

Fineee no more show pony talk

 

[FD2646]

Yep at Gil Frasier oval today in North Fremantle.

Bugger, would have gone if it was Cockburn.

 

[Dayts]

Bugger, would have gone if it was Cockburn.

Just a fitness session today would be my take. No goal posts up here