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Tarryn Thomas (North Melbourne). Estimated price: $292,000 MID/FWD
Can Alastair Clarkson unlock the true potential of North Melbourne’s No.8 draft pick from 2018? We certainly hope so. Thomas looked certain to make the jump to KFC SuperCoach premium status after finishing the 2021 campaign with three tons in five matches and an average of 103 in his last seven games.
Yet, for a variety of reasons including form and role, Thomas’ average regressed from 84.4 to 53.7. He’s expected to be about $170k cheaper to start next season than he was in round 1 this year and will surely be one of the biggest pre-season focuses for KFC SuperCoaches.
He’ll likely be about $65k more expensive than Will Brodie started this year, but the potential for a similar breakout season is clearly there. Thomas averaged 25 disposals, 131 KFC SuperCoach points and 7.4 score involvements in five VFL matches, including scores of 164 and 148. Over to you, Clarko.
Nat Fyfe (Fremantle). Estimated price: $309,000 MID/FWD
Nat Fyfe for less than $350k? Surely not? It sounds crazy – even writing it felt wrong – but it might be a reality next year after the Freo skipper averaged 63.3 from seven games during an injury-hit 2022 season. If an injury discount is applied, Fyfe might even come in at closer to $300k. And, that’s before we even consider the fact he’s likely to be listed as a FWD/MID.
Will Phillips (North Melbourne). Estimated price: $207,000 MID-FWD
Let’s say the No.3 draft pick from a few years back gets a 20 per cent discount after not playing a game this year? That would price Phillips about $207k to start the 2023 season, only $9k more than many coaches were prepared to pay to have him in their teams before his debut was pushed back to round 3 last year. Hoping for a 30 per cent discount might seem a bit rich, but we can only dream.
Depending on the rookie situation next year – and Phillips’ health – paying $190k or thereabouts might become a necessity. He was listed as a FWD/MID this year and should Phillips retain DPP status and work his way into Clarko’s plans, he might be the cheap F6 many coaches crave.
Hunter Clark (St Kilda). Estimated price: $311,000 DEF
Could the injury-cursed Saint be the Jack Sinclair of 2023? The breakout ingredients are all there – top-10 draft pick entering his seventh season, and no one doubts Clark’s talent. Getting on the park regularly has been the issue – being subbed out at halftime in round 23 with a groin injury summed up another frustrating year.
It’s fair to say he has shown glimpses rather than consistent evidence of elite KFC SuperCoach scoring ability (his best season average is 81.7 in 2020) but he will be priced at around a 60 average and the Saints are screaming out for some class through the midfield.
Errol Gulden (Sydney). Estimated price: $466,000 FWD-MID
A premium jump was surely only a matter of time – after all, Gulden posted 139 and 136 in the opening two games of his career. Finishing the season with an average of 85.7 doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that Gulden can launch to 100-plus next season.
What does, however, are the shifts we saw in his game and role this year. Gulden spent more time on a wing this season and won more possessions than his debut campaign behind the ball.
The beauty is he spent more than enough time in the attacking 50 to still be listed as a FWD next year. Gulden’s average was ranked 33rd of this year’s forwards, but only 11 points off the top-10 (Adam Treloar was 10th at 96.4).
Hayden Young (Fremantle). Estimated price: $502,000 DEF
OK, a player costing about $500,000 doesn’t scream bargain pick.
But Young is charting towards an average of 100-plus, having lifted his average from 77 to 92 this year.
The reason he’s on this bargain list is that he could be a keeper for just over $500k. Between rounds 13-21 this year the 21-year-old ranked fifth of all general defenders in the AFL for uncontested possessions and marks, sixth for disposals and eighth for intercepts.
Young finished the season with an elite disposal efficiency of 82.1 per cent, which compares favourably to top KFC SuperCoach defender Tom Stewart (84.2 per cent). Young averaged 97.3 from round 12 onwards.
Can Alastair Clarkson unlock the true potential of North Melbourne’s No.8 draft pick from 2018? We certainly hope so. Thomas looked certain to make the jump to KFC SuperCoach premium status after finishing the 2021 campaign with three tons in five matches and an average of 103 in his last seven games.
Yet, for a variety of reasons including form and role, Thomas’ average regressed from 84.4 to 53.7. He’s expected to be about $170k cheaper to start next season than he was in round 1 this year and will surely be one of the biggest pre-season focuses for KFC SuperCoaches.
He’ll likely be about $65k more expensive than Will Brodie started this year, but the potential for a similar breakout season is clearly there. Thomas averaged 25 disposals, 131 KFC SuperCoach points and 7.4 score involvements in five VFL matches, including scores of 164 and 148. Over to you, Clarko.
Nat Fyfe (Fremantle). Estimated price: $309,000 MID/FWD
Nat Fyfe for less than $350k? Surely not? It sounds crazy – even writing it felt wrong – but it might be a reality next year after the Freo skipper averaged 63.3 from seven games during an injury-hit 2022 season. If an injury discount is applied, Fyfe might even come in at closer to $300k. And, that’s before we even consider the fact he’s likely to be listed as a FWD/MID.
Will Phillips (North Melbourne). Estimated price: $207,000 MID-FWD
Let’s say the No.3 draft pick from a few years back gets a 20 per cent discount after not playing a game this year? That would price Phillips about $207k to start the 2023 season, only $9k more than many coaches were prepared to pay to have him in their teams before his debut was pushed back to round 3 last year. Hoping for a 30 per cent discount might seem a bit rich, but we can only dream.
Depending on the rookie situation next year – and Phillips’ health – paying $190k or thereabouts might become a necessity. He was listed as a FWD/MID this year and should Phillips retain DPP status and work his way into Clarko’s plans, he might be the cheap F6 many coaches crave.
Hunter Clark (St Kilda). Estimated price: $311,000 DEF
Could the injury-cursed Saint be the Jack Sinclair of 2023? The breakout ingredients are all there – top-10 draft pick entering his seventh season, and no one doubts Clark’s talent. Getting on the park regularly has been the issue – being subbed out at halftime in round 23 with a groin injury summed up another frustrating year.
It’s fair to say he has shown glimpses rather than consistent evidence of elite KFC SuperCoach scoring ability (his best season average is 81.7 in 2020) but he will be priced at around a 60 average and the Saints are screaming out for some class through the midfield.
Errol Gulden (Sydney). Estimated price: $466,000 FWD-MID
A premium jump was surely only a matter of time – after all, Gulden posted 139 and 136 in the opening two games of his career. Finishing the season with an average of 85.7 doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that Gulden can launch to 100-plus next season.
What does, however, are the shifts we saw in his game and role this year. Gulden spent more time on a wing this season and won more possessions than his debut campaign behind the ball.
The beauty is he spent more than enough time in the attacking 50 to still be listed as a FWD next year. Gulden’s average was ranked 33rd of this year’s forwards, but only 11 points off the top-10 (Adam Treloar was 10th at 96.4).
Hayden Young (Fremantle). Estimated price: $502,000 DEF
OK, a player costing about $500,000 doesn’t scream bargain pick.
But Young is charting towards an average of 100-plus, having lifted his average from 77 to 92 this year.
The reason he’s on this bargain list is that he could be a keeper for just over $500k. Between rounds 13-21 this year the 21-year-old ranked fifth of all general defenders in the AFL for uncontested possessions and marks, sixth for disposals and eighth for intercepts.
Young finished the season with an elite disposal efficiency of 82.1 per cent, which compares favourably to top KFC SuperCoach defender Tom Stewart (84.2 per cent). Young averaged 97.3 from round 12 onwards.
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KFC SuperCoach 2023: Early rookie bible and cheapie analysis
Will Ashcroft (Brisbane)
SC Ave 2022: 130 (VFL), 166 (U18 Champs), 159 (NAB League)It’s one thing to average more than 150-points at under-18 level, but his 130-point average from his three matches against seasoned bodies in the VFL is simply ridiculous for a player who is yet to be drafted. The Lions father-son has scored 119-points or more in all but one of his 17 matches – the first of the season – and was the No.1 ranked KFC SuperCoach scorer at the national championships and in the NAB League. Ashcroft would step straight into any AFL team next year – even the Lions who have a fairly settled centre-bounce set-up. The Nick Daicos of SuperCoach 2023 — but he won’t come cheap.
Darcy Wilmot (Brisbane)
SC Ave 2022: 56.5 (AFL), 83 (VFL)Campbell Chesser (West Coast)
SC Ave 2022: DNPGeorge Wardlaw
SC Ave 2022: 125 (NAB League)He has been sidelined for most of the year, but Wardlaw has proved the main challenger to Will Ashcroft to be the first name read out on draft night. Wardlaw is an elite contested ball-winner, a fierce tackler and has been likened to Clayton Oliver. That comparison alone should be enough to put him on your 2023 watch-list.
Mattaes Phillipou MID-FWD
SC Ave 2022: 144 (SANFL U18s), 102 (U18CH), 83 (SANFL Reserves)The top-10 pick contender models his game on Marcus Bontempelli – and he’s put together a junior career full of scores similar to the Bulldogs skipper. Phillipou, a tall, goalkicking midfielder, averaged 129 points across 25 SANFL under-18 games over the past two years and scored 181, on the back of 23 disposals, 16 contested possessions and two goals, in the national carnival opener in 2022.
Elijah Tsatas MID
SC Ave 2022: 149 (NAB League)The breakaway speed and game-changing qualities of Tsatas will put him in the frame for senior action in his debut season at whichever club snaps him up the pointy-end of the draft. And his scores of 102, 154, 165, 126, 161 and 186 in an injury-interrupted NAB League season put him firmly on the KFC SuperCoach radar.
Mitch Szybkowski
SC Ave 2022: 120 (U18 Champs), 116 (NAB Leagie)The other potential draftees on this list are likely to be expensive, but Szybwkoski looks to be in the mid-first round to second round range - and the further he slides, the cheaper he will be for coaches. Szybkowski ranked fifth at the national carnival for KFC SuperCoach points and equal second for disposals, with his ball-winning and ready-made frame as a midfielder giving him the capacity to push for senior selection next year.
Josh Sinn (Port Adelaide) DEF-MID
SC Ave 2022: 24 (AFL), 35 (SANFL)Lachie Cowan
SC Ave 2022: 141 (NAB League), 100 (U18 Champs)Running defenders are generally consistent rookie scorers in KFC SuperCoach, and Cowan’s dash and penetrating kick mean his teammates are always looking for him. The Morrish medallist loves to use his footskills, recording a kick to handball ratio of three in the NAB League, and post SuperCoach tons in all 12 of his matches. A kick-in pig of the future.
Ned Moyle (Gold Coast)
SC Ave 2022: 111 (VFL)Moyle is the heir to Jarrod Witts’ thrown and if the 2022 breakout performer goes down, as he has in previous seasons, expect the talented young ruckman to fill his place. The 2021 mid-season draftee posted impressive numbers in the VFL this season, averaging 111 KFC SuperCoach points, 39.1 hitouts, 14 disposals and 5.4 clearances per game, proving that he is capable of stepping up to the plate at senior level. Turning 21 next year, Moyle shapes as the one of the better cheap rucks on offer, but he remains behind Witts in the queue.
Charlie Dean (Collingwood) DEF
SC Ave 2022: 60 (VFL)SC Ave 2021: 85 (VFL)
Jacob van Rooyen (Melbourne)
SC Ave 2022: 87 (VFL)The swingman settled in attack at VFL level for the Demons in his first season, where has kicked 36 goals from 17 matches. And his form as a marking tall in the back-half of the year has put him in the mix for a round 1 debut next year, averaging 98.5 points and slotting 19 majors from his last eight games. Key forwards generally aren’t our friends in SuperCoach, but we may not have the embarrassment of riches with forward rookies that we did this year.
Zac Taylor (Adelaide) MID
SC Ave 2021: 82 (SANFL)SC Ave 2021: 126 (NAB League)
The young Crow’s KFC SuperCoach potential was on show during his draft year, with the skilful midfielder averaging 159 points in his final four NAB League matches. And he could get a chance to put it on show at senior level in 2023, after an impressive finish to this season in the SANFL. Taylor averaged 98 points in his last eight matches of the year, impressing with his composure during the finals series.
Brett Turner (Adelaide) MID
SC Ave 2022: 99 (SANFL)SC Ave 2021: 114 (SANFL)
After posting scores of 154 and 184 in the opening month of the SANFL season for Glenelg, Turner was picked by the Crows in the mid-season draft. But he arrived at the club injured and didn’t get his chance at senior level. That could change if he receives a new contract, however, after the strong-bodied midfielder averaged 26 disposals, 16 contested possessions, 11 tackles, nine clearances and 121 points in the final three games, to be the club’s best player in the state league finals
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AFL Draft 2022: Top performers and SuperCoach points from NAB League, SANFL U18 grand finals
Four potential first-round picks were among those to star on the big stage. Find out the top performers and SuperCoach points for the NAB League and SANFL U18 grand finals.KEY CONTRIBUTORS
DRAGONSCam Mackenzie
170 SuperCoach points, 26 disposals, 17 kicks at 85 per cent, 2 goals, 10 score involvements, 6 tackles, 6 clearances.
Harry Sheezel
164 SuperCoach points, 13 disposals at 90 per cent effficiency, 11 contested possessions, four goals, five score assists, 10 score involvements
Will Ashcroft
157 SuperCoach points, 39 disposals, 24 uncontested possessions, 9 score involvements 6 clearances
Olli Hotton
129 SuperCoach points, 25 disposals, 14 contested possessions, 7 clearances, one goal
Archie Roberts
103 SuperCoach points, 21 disposals nine intercepts, two intercept marks
Will Brown
126 SuperCoach points, 19 disposals, seven marks, eight score involvements and a goal
DANDENONG
Finn Emile-Brennan
108 SuperCoach points, 17 disposals, 82 per cent kicking % (14 kicks), 11 R50s, seven intercepts
Jaxon Binns
100 SuperCoach points, 18 disposals, 12 contested possessions, 0.2
Sam Frangalas
76 SuperCoach points, 17 disposals, five inside 50s, one goal
Hugo Nosiara
88 SuperCoach points, 15 disposals, two score assists, one goal
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Top 10 SC averages post r12.
Compare the ages one player sticks out.
LDU is a lock.
He will be 500kish.
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The season will now start a week earlier, on March 16, to allow the league to slot in 24 home-and-away weeks plus finals
English pop star Sheeran plays in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth across early March in a tour that requires venues to have at least eight days to replace enough turf to return them to an AFL-ready state.
The Herald Sun can reveal Optus Stadium has told the AFL they will not be ready for a round 1 game given they will not have enough time to replace turf and bump out the Sheeran stage to ensure it was safe for AFL footballers.
Sheeran plays a one-off concert at Optus Stadium on Sunday 12 March, which means even a Sunday AFL clash in round 1 would see the venue coming up a day short of that eight-day requirement.
Melbourne’s MCG will replace some turf but given Sheeran plays at the ground on March 2 and 3 their grounds staff will have 13 days to get the ground into AFL shape.
The Herald Sun revealed last month the AFL will do away with last year’s season opener involving the previous year’s Grand Finalists and instead return to a Carlton-Richmond Thursday season opener at the MCG.
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Do we get special low prices for SSPs like Liam Shiels and Jed Anderson (assuming he gets picked up by GC)?
I obviously don't know any exact prices, so I'm just going off the vibes of the thing, with a similar premo/mid/rookie ratio to last time, and currently thinking:
DEF
Dawson - (d/m)
Sicily - (d)
Stewart - (d)
HH - (f/d)
Hunter Clark - (d)
Reuben Ginbey (d/m)
Campbell Chesser (d/m)
Max Michalanney (d)
MID
P Cripps (m)
Davies-Uniake (m)
J Macrae (m)
Tom Green (m)
Hopper (m)
Tucker (d/m)
Cooper Stephens (m)
Will Ashcroft (m)
Bailey Humphrey (m/f)
Cameron Mackenzie (m)
Elijah Hewett (m)
RUC
Witts (r)
Meek (r)
Comben (r/f)
FWD
Dunkley (m/f)
Taranto (m/f) or Darcy Cameron (r/f)
Fyfe (m/f)
W Phillips (m/f)
Toby McLean (m/f)
Harry Sheezel (f)
Mattaes Phillipou (f/m)
Jacob Van Rooyen (d/f) or Blake Drury (f/m)
MISCELLANEOUS
Laird, Miller and Oliver are all must haves but their prices seem crazy compared to the likes of Cripps and Macrae. Waiting to see how much $ I'll have in the bank.
Don't mind the idea of getting Blicavs instead of Meek depending on the cost differential.
Do we get special low prices for SSPs like Liam Shiels and Jed Anderson (assuming he gets picked up by GC)?
I obviously don't know any exact prices, so I'm just going off the vibes of the thing, with a similar premo/mid/rookie ratio to last time, and currently thinking:
DEF
Dawson - (d/m)
Sicily - (d)
Stewart - (d)
HH - (f/d)
Hunter Clark - (d)
Reuben Ginbey (d/m)
Campbell Chesser (d/m)
Max Michalanney (d)
MID
P Cripps (m)
Davies-Uniake (m)
J Macrae (m)
Tom Green (m)
Hopper (m)
Tucker (d/m)
Cooper Stephens (m)
Will Ashcroft (m)
Bailey Humphrey (m/f)
Cameron Mackenzie (m)
Elijah Hewett (m)
RUC
Witts (r)
Meek (r)
Comben (r/f)
FWD
Dunkley (m/f)
Taranto (m/f) or Darcy Cameron (r/f)
Fyfe (m/f)
W Phillips (m/f)
Toby McLean (m/f)
Harry Sheezel (f)
Mattaes Phillipou (f/m)
Jacob Van Rooyen (d/f) or Blake Drury (f/m)
MISCELLANEOUS
Laird, Miller and Oliver are all must haves but their prices seem crazy compared to the likes of Cripps and Macrae. Waiting to see how much $ I'll have in the bank.
Don't mind the idea of getting Blicavs instead of Meek depending on the cost differential.
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