List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Accidental genius]

We have a huge problem with our small forwards (apart from owies) not kicking enough goals…Goal tallies for 2024…

Matt Owies 33 goals ()

Lachlan Fogarty

8

Lachlan Fogarty

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

9 goals

Orazio Fantasia

14

Orazio Fantasia

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

9 goals

Corey Durdin 7 goals

Jesse Motlop 6 goals

That is abysmal

 

[jj1978]

I just find it strange he didn’t nominate a club, everyone else has that still is playing in finals so I don’t buy that as an excuse at all.

Maybe he’d prefer Geelong or maybe he’s given the dogs a couple of clubs he’d prefer to play with.

Who the **** knows, but right now it’s not locked into the cats only imo


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Club he’s going to nominate still in finals.. won’t disrupt their focus till their season is done.

 

[carlton_99]

The player Dwayne Russell thinks Carlton should target to fill small forward hole

“There are players out there.”

www.sen.com.au

Haven't heard of us being linked to Sam Wicks, but I think he'd fit nicely.

Pretty sure we were linked to him last season - I would be interested. Has a bit of mongrel about him as well which is always nice

 

[carlton_99]

We have a huge problem with our small forwards (apart from owies) not kicking enough goals…Goal tallies for 2024…

Matt Owies 33 goals ()

Lachlan Fogarty 9 goals

Orazio Fantasia 9 goals

Corey Durdin 7 goals

Jesse Motlop 6 goals

That is abysmal

To be fair Motlop and Durdin only played 6 games each. Fantasia was playing much higher up the ground as well. Would be nice to get more goals from Fog (15 games) but his defensive work is his real strength

 

[Soapy V]

We have a huge problem with our small forwards (apart from owies) not kicking enough goals…Goal tallies for 2024…

Matt Owies 33 goals ()

Lachlan Fogarty 9 goals

Orazio Fantasia 9 goals

Corey Durdin 7 goals

Jesse Motlop 6 goals

That is abysmal

Game plan or ability?

They looked very good against WCE when we kicked it into space instead of bombing it

 

[Soapy V]

To be fair Motlop and Durdin only played 6 games each. Fantasia was playing much higher up the ground as well. Would be nice to get more goals from Fog (15 games) but his defensive work is his real strength

I love Fogarty but is this enough these days?

 

[Coona Blues]

I love Fogarty but is this enough these days?

Short answer. Yes, depending on the mix. There in lies the problem.

 

[carlton_99]

For me Williams and Fogarty have to be in the forward line for 2025. Fogarty brings the defensive pressure and can always give us an extra on-ball rotation. Williams move forward worked very well - high IQ player who can crumb or offer a lead up target. Can also get up the ground and do work around stoppages. I think it leaves room for only one more small forward.

 

[carlton_99]

I love Fogarty but is this enough these days?

Yes if we get the other small forwards right. I think Fogarty, Williams and one other small with some form of positional awareness who can crumb is a nice mix

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Future 1st for Ryan & your future 2nd:

Petrucelle straight swap for Jack Carroll is about right.

Liam Ryan is worth nothing...

 

[FlowersByIrene]

How do Geelong keep finding these gems later in the draft.

How do they even know!?!

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The Errol year was the year where the draft concessions for academy players were so great that there was zero chance they wouldn't be selected by Sydney. So no one really bid on them. Teams just ignored them from the draft board, didn't put any time into them and therefore no bids came. Now it has become clear that you can't let Sydney just take these guys for free because they end up with too good a draft hand like Gulden at 32, but that idea seemed less prevalent at the time. Teams didn't want to take the risk, however small, of landing a player they'd done no research on, or some seeming sense of not wanting to 'offend' the player you do eventually pick by bidding on another player with your pick.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I love Fogarty but is this enough these days?

Yes. We need way more of this.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Liam Ryan is worth nothing...

Watching his performance against Carlton at the end of the season confirmed that. He was woeful.

 

[carlton_99]

On the forward line I know people have been swept up a bit by Kemp but I think JSOS is still the number 1 option for that third forward role currently. For me he has the best footy IQ and forward craft in our team (big call I know). His leading is good and acts as a good connector between the midfield and forward. Plus he has the capacity to do a role on an Andrews, Taylor type.

I would have it currently as
HF: E.Hollands McKay JSOS
FF: Williams Curnow Fogarty
INT: A small with positional awareness that can crumb

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Game plan or ability?

They looked very good against WCE when we kicked it into space instead of bombing it

WCE are traffic cones. Michael Gibbons could have kicked a bag on them

 

[Accidental genius]

WCE are traffic cones. Michael Gibbons could have kicked a bag on them

True but our entries into f50 looked a lot better …prolly because no H and Charlie and ball carriers forced to lower eyes and make better connections…

I agree weagles made it a lot easier but it’s a good starting point in terms of how our f50 entries should like

 

[carlton_99]

Shout out to Klark Kent who called it first but Riley Beveridge reporting on Gettable that Weitering is very close to signing a 6-year extension taking him to the end of 2031.

 

[Soapy V]

WCE are traffic cones. Michael Gibbons could have kicked a bag on them

True but doesn't change my point

 

[kreuze_missile]

Weitering new 6 year deal imminent.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

WCE are traffic cones. Michael Gibbons could have kicked a bag on them

Now you're talking!!! I was a huge Micky Gibbons fan...although I don't think I've ever seen a player more mismanaged at our club than he was

 

[Soapy V]

Short answer. Yes, depending on the mix. There in lies the problem.

Fair comment. Issue is mix needs to better.

Do GWS Swans Hawks Port etc have any purely defensive forwards?

IMO any forward should be able to defend as a core of their role

 

[Blue Pulse]

We could put young Nick Watson in our forward line and his attacking instinct would be drilled out of him to become a defensive forward. Until we start making changings with our forward entries and setup, we will always fall back to the long kick to Charlie and Harry who will be outnumbered. Our forward setup is too easy to defend

 

[Soapy V]

We could put young Nick Watson in our forward line and his attacking instinct would be drilled out of him to become a defensive forward. Until we start making changings with our forward entries and setup, we will always fall back to the long kick to Charlie and Harry who will be outnumbered. Our forward setup is too easy to defend

100%

 

[Arr0w]

The player Dwayne Russell thinks Carlton should target to fill small forward hole

“There are players out there.”

www.sen.com.au

Haven't heard of us being linked to Sam Wicks, but I think he'd fit nicely.

Wicks was on our radar last year

 

[M_I_G]

We could put young Nick Watson in our forward line and his attacking instinct would be drilled out of him to become a defensive forward. Until we start making changings with our forward entries and setup, we will always fall back to the long kick to Charlie and Harry who will be outnumbered. Our forward setup is too easy to defend

Would he also fly in the pack and crowd their space or would he be crumbing though?
Not disagreeing about our entry strategy but how hard is it for the smalls to realise and play to their role ffs

And when are we getting news of delisting. Cmon already!!