List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Blue DNA]

We played the 7 other finalists 9 times in 2024 excluding the final when Owies didn’t play. In those 9 games Owies kicked 9 goals and did next to nothing other than the goals he kicked. Keep in mind that he kicked 3 against the Cats the 2nd time we played them and 2 against the dogs. So in the other 7 games against finalists he kicked 4 goals and again did next to nothing in all of those games. If he is not kicking goals he is giving nothing else really.

33 goals for the year is great and looks good, but it really appears he beats up on poor teams and when the heat is on against really good teams he goes to water. That’s not my opinion, that’s facts based off this year.

He leads at the ball and marks it and kicks truely which we all love, but I find it easy to see that his role will be taken by Kemp in 2025 and having 1 less small in our forward line doing nothing really when the ball hits the ground will be welcomed imo.

Other than his goals mainly against poor sides, his stats are really poor. I’m not saying our others aren’t poor also but maybe because they are younger and potentially have more upside, they aren’t being shopped around and Owies is.

I love that he grabs the C after a goal and seems to bleed Blue, but we need not settle for mediocre hopefully anymore.

Thanks for your thoughtful points. But given Owies' reliability and value, I respect what he brings.

We picked up Owies as a Category B rookie was he third highest goal kicker again in 2024 with 33 goals.

That is more than all these small forwards put together: Fantasia 9, Durdin 7, Motlop 6, Martin 3 in total = 25.

He has been a valuable contributor.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

That’s not right.
There was a Bigfooty article that stated that (the only one) and it was incorrect.

I stand corrected - that was the article I was looking at.

Though he's reportedly been told he's free to explore a trade - so likely wouldn't cost a lot. Reckon they'd be happy to get him off the books, especially with Aisworth re-signing and Lombard about to arrive.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Can’t wait to see much more of this guy in 2025 with a full preseason

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Thanks for your thoughtful points. But given Owies' reliability and value, I respect what he brings.

We picked up Owies as a Category B rookie was he third highest goal kicker again in 2024 with 33 goals.

That is more than all these small forwards put together: Fantasia 9, Durdin 7, Motlop 6, Martin 3 in total = 25.

He has been a valuable contributor.

You’re not telling me anything that I don’t already know. I’m just telling you the facts and he currently doesn’t have a contract, so I’d wager a guess the club also sees what I see and know the facts

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Lord looks like he's played 50 not 2

 

[Michael Jezz]

Thanks for your thoughtful points. But given Owies' reliability and value, I respect what he brings.

We picked up Owies as a Category B rookie was he third highest goal kicker again in 2024 with 33 goals.

That is more than all these small forwards put together: Fantasia 9, Durdin 7, Motlop 6, Martin 3 in total = 25.

He has been a valuable contributor.

Owies needs to be measured against the level a small fwd is required to attain to win a flag not relative to the under performance of motlop, durdin, williams

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Now the Mirkov experiment is over what are peoples thoughts on Hudson O'Keefe ??

For example, could he play a senior game in 2025 if a TDK or Pitto goes down ?? How far off is he ?


I look at McInerny and Briggs last night - having big blokes with a bit of mongrel.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Rosas isn’t FA, will need to trade

Should Rosas be our number one priority, to replace Owies? Or is Konstanty, perhaps a smarter option?

Rosas has played some good AFL footy, has speed and a decent left peg. But, with GC saying hooroo to him.

Is that an indicator perhaps of a lack of drive or dedication, just don't know.

Konstany is younger and is yet to play a game at the highest level. Apparently a ferocious tackler and is similar to Papley.

Which one has the higher ceiling, or better attitude? Be great to snag one of these for sure.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Now the Mirkov experiment is over what are peoples thoughts on Hudson O'Keefe ??

For example, could he play a senior game in 2025 if a TDK or Pitto goes down ?? How far off is he ?


I look at McInerny and Meeks last night - having big blokes with a bit of mongrel.

Last night I was really impressed with Briggs, played the best game I have ever seen him play. Looked like he dropped off a

bit, like his mates in the last q. Still cannot believe how the giants did not win that.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Can’t wait to see much more of this guy in 2025 with a full preseason

Doesn't just give and then stand back and admire his handy work...immediately on the move to block or provide another option. Great habit.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Last night I was really impressed with Briggs, played the best game I have ever seen him play. Looked like he dropped off a

bit, like his mates in the last q. Still cannot believe how the giants did not win that.

..sorry meant to say Briggs not Meeks

 

[mochacinolatte]

Sam Taylor 28,
Cal Brown cat b rookie,
Peatling mid season rookie. Plenty of hits there outside the first round

We fail to hit late picks is what I am reading...

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Doesn't just give and then stand back and admire his handy work...immediately on the move to block or provide another option. Great habit.

Also he seems to always want to keep the ball moving rather than stopping and holding up play.

I’m a big Lord fan

 

[mochacinolatte]

Can’t wait to see much more of this guy in 2025 with a full preseason

Very very clean hands. Doesn't miss by hands and doesn't fumble.

 

[Arr0w]

Be interesting what the final list changes look like

There has been constant rumours since the start of the year that Carroll could depart

Owies still doesn't have a contract, S Durdin the same who struggles to get on the park

Rumour that Young, Kennedy and Cerra were told to explore opportunities

Might be a bigger off season than expected

 

[Arr0w]

Can’t wait to see much more of this guy in 2025 with a full preseason

Reminds me of a mini Hewett

 

[Doro]

We fail to hit late picks is what I am reading...

Is it? We haven't had much luck with small forwards after several attempts, more thinking we need to refine what we look for.

 

[Blue1980]

Can’t wait to see much more of this guy in 2025 with a full preseason

If his body can take the extra workload and not break down injured, pretty sure we have a long term player on our hands.

 

[Blue1980]

We fail to hit late picks is what I am reading...

Not entirely true we have done pretty well getting guys for not much.

Newman - some picks in the 70s for memory
Cottrell - pre season add on player
TDK - pick 30
Owies - cat b rookie
Boyd - mid season draft
Acres - got for pick in the 40s I think
Cincotta - pre season add on player

Hopefully we can add Cooper Lord to the list above.

The list is still a bit unbalanced and too injury prone. We have been redressing the balance and will do again this off season, and have already begun to redress the injury prone issues clearing 3 we rolled the dice with(admittedly I would have too after they played late 2023).

 

[Blue1980]

Be interesting what the final list changes look like

There has been constant rumours since the start of the year that Carroll could depart

Owies still doesn't have a contract, S Durdin the same who struggles to get on the park

Rumour that Young, Kennedy and Cerra were told to explore opportunities

Might be a bigger off season than expected

I think in the case of those last 3 mentioned, we’d need to have what we consider upgrades on young and S Durdin coming the other way, and for Kennedy someone who fills our needs better and Cerra we’d still demand a first rounder (which I think is unlikely with his current hamstring issues).

 

[Korn]

Can’t wait to see much more of this guy in 2025 with a full preseason

Should have played in the Brisbane game.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Should Rosas be our number one priority, to replace Owies? Or is Konstanty, perhaps a smarter option?

Rosas has played some good AFL footy, has speed and a decent left peg. But, with GC saying hooroo to him.

Is that an indicator perhaps of a lack of drive or dedication, just don't know.

Konstany is younger and is yet to play a game at the highest level. Apparently a ferocious tackler and is similar to Papley.

Which one has the higher ceiling, or better attitude? Be great to snag one of these for sure.

Take both

Looks pretty decent forward line to me

HF: Konstanty - McKay - Fogarty
FF: Rosas - Curnow - Moir

x2 Pressure forwards (Fogarty & Konstanty) Konstanty has pace & goal sense…

x2 X-Factor forwards Rosas & Moir (also 3rd tall)

x2 off the best KPF in the league

 

[The Bighouse]

Every forward misses easy goals. Kicked 49.21 this season - not sure what more you are expecting. His contested marking and pressure on top of the goals shows he is not feeble.

Everyone knew he’d miss that important shot on goal in the 2nd Q. Eradicate the lack of a presence in marking contests / one-handed attempts = slapping his own hand to admonish that he should have gone harder - regularly (even H knows it).. Lots of RFI to earn the big KPF contracted money IMO. Phycologist & some mongrel should be high up on his agenda. He needs to impose his 204cm frame.

Much like his brother, they let themselves down when it counts, and both overpaid on output.

 

[The Bighouse]

Hardwick didn't mind a small forward or four...wonder what prompted this?

A left right combo of Rosas and a rejuvenated Motlop has some appeal.

I only caught snippets of the last Q of WCE vs GCFC but IIRC Rosas had some forgettable plays when he had the chance to step up (fumbles) and another L.
Moments that matter perhaps.

Edit: it appears Rosas is expected back at GCFC for next season but in top shape for pre-season (poor last pre-season).

 

[The Bighouse]

Not entirely true we have done pretty well getting guys for not much.

Newman - some picks in the 70s for memory
Cottrell - pre season add on player
TDK - pick 30
Owies - cat b rookie
Boyd - mid season draft
Acres - got for pick in the 40s I think
Cincotta - pre season add on player

Hopefully we can add Cooper Lord to the list above.

The list is still a bit unbalanced and too injury prone. We have been redressing the balance and will do again this off season, and have already begun to redress the injury prone issues clearing 3 we rolled the dice with(admittedly I would have too after they played late 2023).

Someone do a Geelong list…