List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[katmanblue]

Why not try and improve what you can?

It’s a clear issue he has.

Even 2 or 3 marks a game would help.

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[katmanblue]

Any chance Pitto takes marking lessons over the off season..

For a tall player that should be one of his points of difference or advantage over at the non talls at the very least.

Can you take marking lessons?

Is he not fanning his fingers out to create a bowl for the ball to drop in?

Not cushioning the drop of the ball?

Grip strength. And timing.

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[Blue By Blood]

Any chance Pitto takes marking lessons over the off season..

For a tall player that should be one of his points of difference or advantage over at the non talls at the very least.

Can you take marking lessons?

Is he not fanning his fingers out to create a bowl for the ball to drop in?

Not cushioning the drop of the ball?

I remember when we traded him in..
A comment on the Hawks board at the time still sticks with me. ‘He has the smallest hands for a ruck I’ve ever seen and drops every mark’.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Forget about Houston we need to be all over SDK

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Grip strength. And timing.

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I've been working on both since 14 or so, and consider myself quite accomplished.

Main thing is to be comfortable with marking...everybody does it.

 

[raymagoo]

Love to know what happened with his development (or lack there of)

Was massive talk of him at the time of the draft…recall many in this board having him pegged at our pick…..

Played with Trent. Injured most of last year. Was close mid year then tweaked ankle. Played out of position a bit

 

[raymagoo]

He has Daniel Rich size hands….

Let’s worry about what he does well than doesn’t do well hey?


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He drops marks well?

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Can’t be wasting list spots. We are short on them as it is, and picking a 3rd string ruckman isn’t good use of them

Agree, now we have got rid of Mirkov we can hand the ruck reigns over to HOK & Lemmey in the VFL and see if either shows something.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

If we didn’t have to give up much I would be keen to see how Petrucelle from WC went in a competent team setup..

 

[DangerousD]

Right, and why is that?

Could do way worse than pick up a ruck that is definite AFL calibre for nothing - would be better than Pitto if he were fit too. He belted Kreuzer in the ruck in 2019.

Has played i think 3 games in the last 4 years, that’s why.

 

[BlueJet]

If we didn’t have to give up much I would be keen to see how Petrucelle from WC went in a competent team setup..

IMO - He's worse than Lochie O'Brien, who is lining up in the O&M GF this weekend.
He can run fast, that's about it.

 

[Big Delut]

Has played i think 3 games in the last 4 years, that’s why.

His body is absolutely cooked. Hence him doing a hammy jogging onto the ground. 2 VFL games this year after only 1 last year

 

[BlueJet]

Right, and why is that?

Could do way worse than pick up a ruck that is definite AFL calibre for nothing - would be better than Pitto if he were fit too. He belted Kreuzer in the ruck in 2019.

Because he's rarely available. He's a year older than Pittonet, who has availability issues of his own & played significantly less football.
If we're looking for a ruck, it needs to be someone that will be available when called upon.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Simply have to be throwing everything at SDK

 

[Gointocarlton]

IMO - He's worse than Lochie O'Brien, who is lining up in the O&M GF this weekend.
He can run fast, that's about it.

Speaking of blokes who could run fast and that's about it, I remember a very old school work colleague of mine in the 90s commenting about Frank Marchesani, he said "Blokes like Marchesani are the reason we have fences around grounds".
One of the funniest footy comments I think I've ever heard.

 

[GT619]

Simply have to be throwing everything at SDK

like what and who

 

[Beyond Blue]

If we didn’t have to give up much I would be keen to see how Petrucelle from WC went in a competent team setup..

I live in Perth and have a lot of Eagles mates. They’d run him out of town…if they could!

 

[BlueTongue]

like what and who

Pitto & Cerra for a start

 

[Drexl 31]

Simply have to be throwing everything at SDK

why

 

[katmanblue]

I've been working on both since 14 or so, and consider myself quite accomplished.

Main thing is to be comfortable with marking...everybody does it.

Brah

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[Blue Pulse]

To be fair. Motlop's year started round 19 due to a long term injury. Even then he wasn't near ready for senior footy. Could see that in the VFL.

Agree, both these guys played under done and neither should have been selected for the EF or Durdin v St Kilda after he popped his shoulder v WC

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You don't have any concerns based on Jones being delisted by West coast who have a terrible list?

He's now been delisted by a club with a good list and culture (Cats) and a really poor list (Eagles).

Sometimes junk has been left at the tip because it's not of any use any more.

I'd have concerns over any player delisted by WCE, but I also know as a Carlton supporter that when your club is an absolute dumpster fire for a prolonged period of time, players talent and confidence can be sapped out of them which results in them under performing or looking worse than they are.

Petruccelle and Jones have shown they can play some very good footy when their teams were up and about and they were playing with confidence. Both have looked pretty shite lately but that doesn't mean that's their limitations as players if plugged into a better system with better standards they need to meet.

Geelong has basically made it a hobby of taking under performing players from other clubs and getting the best out of them.

 

[bradfisher14]

If we didn’t have to give up much I would be keen to see how Petrucelle from WC went in a competent team setup..

So you're saying you don't want him to play for Carlton?

 

[Leeway]

I'd have concerns over any player delisted by WCE, but I also know as a Carlton supporter that when your club is an absolute dumpster fire for a prolonged period of time, players talent and confidence can be sapped out of them which results in them under performing or looking worse than they are.

Petruccelle and Jones have shown they can play some very good footy when their teams were up and about and they were playing with confidence. Both have looked pretty shite lately but that doesn't mean that's their limitations as players if plugged into a better system with better standards they need to meet.

Geelong has basically made it a hobby of taking under performing players from other clubs and getting the best out of them.

I'm not sure who Geelong have got that was underperforming? Kids still finding their way I understand but underperforming?

 

[BlueJet]

While I understand the appeal, the SDK chat seems to be lazy speculation.
He had knee surgery & hasn't come straight back into the side, hardly cause to rage quit. Particularly a club where you've already enjoyed significant success, your ongoing position in the side is not in doubt & you can be reasonably confident of contending for the remainder of your career.
The funny thing is, they'd probably want TDK or something similar for SDK.