Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 3

[George CantStandYa]

If correct Richmond will end up 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24. Not a bad draft hand for rebuild.

Especially in this draft. Draft right and their rebuild is set

 

[Samcro24]

Either way Richmond killed it

Remember when we got 4 picks inside 30 or whatever it was. And we were all

Then went on to completely butcher the picks.

 

[dude316]

Remember when we got 4 picks inside 30 or whatever it was. And we were all

Then went on to completely butcher the picks.

You’re going to have to be more specific.

 

[Crow till I die]

Remember when we got 4 picks inside 30 or whatever it was. And we were all

Then went on to completely butcher the picks.

Two thousand and ...cough...f**king eighteen

 

[George CantStandYa]

lol

 

[GreyCrow]

Two thousand and ...cough...f**king eighteen

Yeah doesnt matter though as we still have all 4 on our list

 

[40porpoise]

Turbo charged rebuild

Compare to us. How many players did we trade out when we commenced our rebuild? The club certainly didn't entertain trading out guys like Laird or Smith who would've fetched a decent price at the time.

Proof will be in the pudding but I back Richmond's track record over ours

 

[FR0GGY]

Kane is a poor human.

Is he though?
Probably done more for charity than anyone on here.
Might have got this wrong but so did everyone else on here that laughed at a player bailing on a club.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

 

[Samcro24]

Is he though?
Probably done more for charity than anyone on here.
Might have got this wrong but so did everyone else on here that laughed at a player bailing on a club.

People who give to charity are the worst

 

[Scorpus]

they will be VERY likely be dead bottom next 3 years now though. need to factor that in and potential of players wanting out as they wont be in contention for another 5-6 years now

could actually be the worst result of any team since the new teams came in ie winning 1 or 2 games maximum and a horrendous % of 40 ish

At least a few of their top draft picks will have an immediate impact.

The results you're talking about are expansion era stuff and not even GWS was that bad. Richmond's squad is better than first year GWS.

2011 Gold Coast had an average experience of 23 games per player (lol) and still won 3 games with a percentage of 56%. GWS similar experience for 2 wins and 45% in their first year

 

[Betts are off]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson ShaSharp

No, no we should not

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

Wait, let me think about that. NO.


With Nicks you never know where we land next year.

 

[Scorpus]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

Richmond aren't going to trade pick 1 for pick 4

 

[MRB37]

If that was the case they could have nipped that particular story pretty quickly but chose to let it sit there for whatever reason. Maybe Port wanted to make him look like the bad guy when they thought he was off to the Saints?

 

[Hodgy]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

Well you know it’s about right because you’ve got people saying we shouldn’t and others saying Richmond wouldn’t.

Personally don’t think it’s in either teams interests as we need to maximize years with Dawson and Rankine and Richmond don’t want all their eggs in the one draft basket.

 

[1990crow]

Is he though?
Probably done more for charity than anyone on here.
Might have got this wrong but so did everyone else on here that laughed at a player bailing on a club.

Lots of bad people have done things for charity. Doesn't make his behaviour like this ok.

 

[Crow till I die]

Richmond aren't going to trade pick 1 for pick 4

Why not? depends how highly they rate the players inside this 'super draft' top 4 compared to next year. Thankfully we are inside that top 4 this year so we have options if we wanted to try to do something with other clubs.

 

[FR0GGY]

Lots of bad people have done things for charity. Doesn't make his behaviour like this ok.

So him having an opinion makes him a poor human?

 

[TBM]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

Always a risk Sharp's form drops next year. Welsh was touted as Top 10 this time last year.

Stick with Pick 4 and take the known commodity IMO.

 

[bmac84]

Or they could do a North and struggle to get out of the bottom 4 for years after losing all your senior stars at once. Richmond don't have a great history of getting the first rebuild right.

Exactly this. Who is even left to guide all of these kids, set training standards, keep them going when they're winning 1 out of every 10 games.

 

[GameofSloanes]

I’m fine with Reid overall but the fact we have Smith, Strachan and Burgess still on the list is bad management.

They are all gone in 12 months

 

[Golumless]

I'm confused. And yes its partly a smartarse response but are you saying players want out when teams perform poorly?

Because apparently our kulcha has allowed us to not only keep players but retain them on loooooong contracts

Looking back on the last five years, I highly doubt current performance is a big player in deciding on if a player wants to leave until they hit free agency.

Seems like when a young player leaves, it's either for more money or circumstance.

Compare to us. How many players did we trade out when we commenced our rebuild? The club certainly didn't entertain trading out guys like Laird or Smith who would've fetched a decent price at the time.

Proof will be in the pudding but I back Richmond's track record over ours

We got rid of five senior players when we commenced in 2019 to trades. Betts, Jacobs, Jenkins, Keath and Greenwood. Two of them were salary dumps. We also had Ellis-Yolman walk via Free Agency. Though, it's also worth noting that contexually, this comes off the back of us imploding in 2019, and there is definitely benefits to having a team bleed out instead of implode. We uhh, also retired Douglas without telling him which also deserves to be mentioned due to PR not being a strength.

If you're comparing us to Richmond, this is probably trade period two of their rebuild. Their first big draft pick, their first horrific year (in a while). At this point, we tried to get pick 2 from FA from Crouch. Atkins elected to take free agency and we traded out Hartigan. We also had Gibbs retire and spend a lot of this period cutting depth, think Gallucci, Poholke, Taylor, Knight etc.

We didn't trade Laird/Smith because you do still need some experienced players to be guides in a rebuild, and we had more pressing needs to get rid of. We did reach the point in 2022 and 2023 where we had the lowest number of 100 gamers in the AFL. We're only starting to normalise in that facet now, seeing we're now up to the 13th most experienced list.

Hard to say what will happen to Richmond in the future, and really depends on Yze for the short term. I'm not backing them, but that's because once you enter the rebuild forest, it's very easy to get lost. Losing Bolton is a disaster though, no matter what picks they get.

 

[Pea Nut]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

No, we need the talent now. We don't need to push it out another 12 months.

 

[beartoo]

Should we offer Pick 4 for Richmond's F1 and hope that gets us Dyson Sharp?

Hope we get Dyson Sharp next year against certainly getting a top mid this year?

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