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List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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If Gibcus, Balta, Miller, Trainor, Banks, Brown, Broad, Vlastuin and Short are all fit and in form who’s playing VFL?

Add Taylor to that group and we have 10 players that should be playing AFL but all suited to defence.

On top of that we have Gray who was definitely playing AFL standard before injury. Smith and Trezise the only true understudies in the VFL.

Our list was out of balance this year with too many KPP’s. This resulted in us scraping the barrel for midfielders and really wasting games on the likes of Dow, Kmac and to a lesser extend Sonsie. Plus we played blokes like Trezise and Trainor on the wing instead of genuine outside runners.

We lost inside 50s in 19 games this year.

Our focus in this draft has to be on improving our midfield, especially our speed.
 
If Gibcus, Balta, Miller, Trainor, Banks, Brown, Broad, Vlastuin and Short are all fit and in form who’s playing VFL?

Add Taylor to that group and we have 10 players that should be playing AFL but all suited to defence.

On top of that we have Gray who was definitely playing AFL standard before injury. Smith and Trezise the only true understudies in the VFL.

Our list was out of balance this year with too many KPP’s. This resulted in us scraping the barrel for midfielders and really wasting games on the likes of Dow, Kmac and to a lesser extend Sonsie. Plus we played blokes like Trezise and Trainor on the wing instead of genuine outside runners.

We lost inside 50s in 19 games this year.

Our focus in this draft has to be on improving our midfield, especially our speed.
We need Cummings becuase the other players are too boring and I do not like being bored
 
If Gibcus, Balta, Miller, Trainor, Banks, Brown, Broad, Vlastuin and Short are all fit and in form who’s playing VFL?

Add Taylor to that group and we have 10 players that should be playing AFL but all suited to defence.

On top of that we have Gray who was definitely playing AFL standard before injury. Smith and Trezise the only true understudies in the VFL.

Our list was out of balance this year with too many KPP’s. This resulted in us scraping the barrel for midfielders and really wasting games on the likes of Dow, Kmac and to a lesser extend Sonsie. Plus we played blokes like Trezise and Trainor on the wing instead of genuine outside runners.

We lost inside 50s in 19 games this year.

Our focus in this draft has to be on improving our midfield, especially our speed.
Did we miss a trick this year not trading Shorty? Just not sure where his best role is anymore and that will be compounded if we draft a Taylor or Grjl
 

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Does Marc McGowen for the Age do any research into draft history and list profile when determining who we are going to select in the draft? We make a late decision to delist an inside mid in Dow; we selected a rebuilding defender in last years draft in Trainor with a pick in the 20s; we continually got slaughtered around the midfield on many key meteoric; and we have two low picks in the open draft and have a history of using these picks to select midfielders.

I’m confident we’ll take Sharp because he ticks a lot of boxes that we value and if the recruiting team rates Robey higher on their board than Cumming, then they’ve made an informed decision based on statistical analysis, first hand observation and independent testing both psychological and physical.
 
Our focus in this draft has to be on improving our midfield, especially our speed.
If you had a choice between 2 gun mids (Sharp/Cummings) who aren’t lightening fast but are really good footballers v 2 guys who are lightening fast but nowhere near as good what are you doing?
I’m all for guys who are fast but for mids I’ll always go the best player
 
Does Marc McGowen for the Age do any research into draft history and list profile when determining who we are going to select in the draft?

He and Chris Cavanagh (the HS reporter) use information from oppo clubs and managers more than anything.

But clubs give them info based on a mixture of BPA, known interest (ie each meeting with draftee and family or medical request has to be recorded with afl and is distributed to all clubs) list holes as they try to work out who’ll be available at their pick.

Managers also give out info based on managing a couple of kids, but also probably have an agenda attached to that info.

Overall I’d say they are reasonably well informed and have to make educated guesses on what’s real info and what’s subterfuge. But they themselves won’t dive too deep into a teams list.
 

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If you had a choice between 2 gun mids (Sharp/Cummings) who aren’t lightening fast but are really good footballers v 2 guys who are lightening fast but nowhere near as good what are you doing?
I’m all for guys who are fast but for mids I’ll always go the best player
Yep, always pick a natural footballer over an athlete imo
 
We gotta stop using this bolded expression lol. A Rolls Royce is typically overtly large, slow and gratuitous.

I know it's typically meant to mean a smooth mover/classy. I've watched limited vision on him but I wouldn't use those words to describe him.
He is a tank and ties in beautifully with our newest sponsor GWM and there current advertising slogan #BeMoreTank
 
He and Chris Cavanagh (the HS reporter) use information from oppo clubs and managers more than anything.

But clubs give them info based on a mixture of BPA, known interest (ie each meeting with draftee and family or medical request has to be recorded with afl and is distributed to all clubs) list holes as they try to work out who’ll be available at their pick.

Managers also give out info based on managing a couple of kids, but also probably have an agenda attached to that info.

Overall I’d say they are reasonably well informed and have to make educated guesses on what’s real info and what’s subterfuge. But they themselves won’t dive too deep into a teams list.
Twomey gets his info for his phantom draft from the clubs as well as there is no way he could nail the top 10 picks year after year without that being the case. Nobody is that 'lucky'
 

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PICK 5 - RICHMOND - Sullivan Robey - 192cm - Fwd/Mid - Eastern Ranges

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I have to go with Sully here.
Robey is a powerful young gun with huge potential and a ceiling possibly higher than most given the fact he is still getting use to his body and putting in the hard yards during the offseason trying to perfect a full-time athletes body.
He has taken the stingrays rejection and turned it around quite well, treating his opponents quite egregiously in the latter half of the year for Eastern Ranges.
Sully can play through the middle and win contests at will, gets the ball to runners or bursts out and gets the ball forward for his team using very good decisions by hand and or foot.
Very much in the mold of Cam Rayner, but bigger
His new size belies his ability below his knees as he still plays like a small, but above his head he is also a weapon, taking marks out in front on the lead.
Can find the goals and stands up in tackles, has size, holds a physical presence, tackles to hurt and is very mobile, and that will only get better in time. I think he would compliment what the tigers did last year by bringing in a guy who can, in the future, swap in and out of the mid/fwd role with Lalor very well giving the tigers a two-pronged running of the bulls.

Next up Richmond will bid on Harry Dean - Carlton father son prospect - LemmingMaster

For those interested Smythe’s has us taking Sully with our first pick in big footy mock.

WCE took Duursma and Sharp
 
Schubert only 1 that picked an achievable player 😁
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