List Mgmt. 2025 List Management III 📃

[Aphrodite]

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List Mgmt. - 2025 List Management II 📃

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[WalshistheGOAT]

Kemp is the forward who really excites me. He has an aerial game that is probably as good as Charlie. And unlike Charlie, if the ball comes to ground, he is still in the hunt for the ball. He's athletic and fast. He'll provide the perfect foil to Harry in our forward line.

Harry is going to love the new entry instructions because they will play to his strengths. He can lead to the ball carrier or he can offer a long diagonal lead that allows the ball carrier to kick it in front of him. We just need him to get Levi's mindset of "if someone drops into your leading lane, go through them".

I'm all for a bit of excitement over pre season but to compare Kemp to Charlie in at this stage is a bit laughable. Charlie may not have cared for chasing or digging in over the course of 2025 but he was easily the most talented forward we've had since Betts.

 

[Chookaradley]

i agree though i think you can build or flesh out a forward line with medium or 190-192cm types if you have to. obviously at least one central tall would be ideal. i was kind of surprised lemmey was let go but then again i've only read about him, watched only highlights.

defence though... you need to cover who they put on the park and we're extremely thin and a weitering corky away from gaping holes.

I like the looks of our defence 2027 onwards. Am a huge HOF fan!, and Dean a year under his belt. I watched Lemmey a lot he was just not mobile enough. Still need a tall presence forward, we have only really1 option

 

[Dramoth]

I'm all for a bit of excitement over pre season but to compare Kemp to Charlie in at this stage is a bit laughable. Charlie may not have cared for chasing or digging in over the course of 2025 but he was easily the most talented forward we've had since Betts.

Charlie's problem was that he wanted to wrestle with his opponent because his knee issues slowed him down. His knee issues stemed from him playing that pickup game of basketball with his mates. The club played its part by not giving him time to recover fully like we have with Kemp, in his rookie year (first year on the list), and now. This I put on the backroom powerbrokers wanting the club to play the best all the time.

 

[azlou]

I'm all for a bit of excitement over pre season but to compare Kemp to Charlie in at this stage is a bit laughable. Charlie may not have cared for chasing or digging in over the course of 2025 but he was easily the most talented forward we've had since Betts.

I reckon you can compare Moir mercurial Kemp high marking leading to Charlie it being two is a bonus as there harder to cover can’t double team two players

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

I'm all for a bit of excitement over pre season but to compare Kemp to Charlie in at this stage is a bit laughable. Charlie may not have cared for chasing or digging in over the course of 2025 but he was easily the most talented forward we've had since Betts.

And Fev…

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

I like the looks of our defence 2027 onwards. Am a huge HOF fan!, and Dean a year under his belt. I watched Lemmey a lot he was just not mobile enough. Still need a tall presence forward, we have only really1 option

If he had O’Keefe’s natural competive nature and aggression, he’d would have played a few games & still be on the list… talent v competitiveness

 

[Chookaradley]

I'm all for a bit of excitement over pre season but to compare Kemp to Charlie in at this stage is a bit laughable. Charlie may not have cared for chasing or digging in over the course of 2025 but he was easily the most talented forward we've had since Betts.

Charlie has many shortcomings, but he is a legitimate match winner. They dont grow on trees. Your point is well made. This new version of Carlton will look to score by comittee, not by relying on one or two.

 

[btdg]

Charlie's problem was that he wanted to wrestle with his opponent because his knee issues slowed him down. His knee issues stemed from him playing that pickup game of basketball with his mates. The club played its part by not giving him time to recover fully like we have with Kemp, in his rookie year (first year on the list), and now. This I put on the backroom powerbrokers wanting the club to play the best all the time.

Charlie took 2.5 years off to recover that knee injury? How much longer could we have given him given his prime was evaporating? He did come back and win 2 (and almost 3) Coleman medals so his rehab must have been decent.

I know that he had ongoing issues, though, and it was clear in 2025 he was rushed back hampered and probably only playing because McKay was injured and the season was heading into the toilet. Somehow that's become something he is criticised for because he wasn't tackling enough or whatever, but he was doing what he could.

Kemp, in contrast, is coming off a ruptured Achilles tendon and tbh, if he ever plays a competent AFL match again we should consider that a win. That injury is a potential career killer. By all accounts his rehab has been smooth but anyone who thinks he will slot straight in and replace Charlie is not being fair to Brodie (and likely to be disappointed). But I would set the over/under on games played by Kemp this year at 0 and be happy for anything from there...

Whether we can cobble together a functional forward line from McKay, Kemp, Moir, O'Keefe, Hayward and whoever else out of McGovern, Young, even Weitering... remains to be seen. I still think it was crazy to trade Curnow, and it will be brutal watching him play for a probable top 4 Sydney team (and could he kick 100 on the SCG? Possibly...).

We probably did have to do it though - had to try something after coming up short for the last 4 years with that structure, so I've made my peace with it.

 

[BlueJet]

Charlie's problem was that he wanted to wrestle with his opponent because his knee issues slowed him down. His knee issues stemed from him playing that pickup game of basketball with his mates. The club played its part by not giving him time to recover fully like we have with Kemp, in his rookie year (first year on the list), and now. This I put on the backroom powerbrokers wanting the club to play the best all the time.

Charlie is supremely talented & was impacted by injury (few aren't), but there were definitely some bad habits creeping into his game, too.
Even if injured, standing 30m from goal with your hand in the air providing a static target, when everyone knows where the ball is going more often than not, gives the opposition defence a point of reference, allows them to sag off the other forwards & commit numbers to Charlie, which assists with their intercept/rebound game.
When compromised, I would have liked to see him played as a decoy more, when they overcommit to him, you play through the spares. (Unsure whether this is on coaching or Charlie himself)
I suspect he'll be refreshed following the shift to the Swans & good luck to him.

 

[JustOneTime]

Charlie's problem was that he wanted to wrestle with his opponent because his knee issues slowed him down.

I think of it is more to do with Carlton's gameplan. It's been repeated a lot that the strategy is deep entries inside 50 to both Mckay/Curnow and lock it in.

This means both key fwds are left there wresting a lot. How many time have we watched Mckay hit the turf while at the other end the key forward marks 15 metres away from young types over 2-3 years.

Carlton's gameplan alone destroyed the core build from 2015 onwards. This reset only works if they change how they play.