List Mgmt. 2025 List Management

[serial_thrilla]

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Ah Gold Coast. The club that oscilates between blessing us and f**king us.

GC, Carlton, Sydney, Brisbane all need points our picks would help with

 

[freo_leo29]

GC, Carlton, Sydney, Brisbane all need points our picks would help with

Any of them actually gonna have list spots for our low value picks tho

Blues lost a few but are bringing in Reidy, buku and chesthair

 

[Cobbler]

Essendon may be a pick trade partner

Freo - 12, 33 and 44
Bombers - 20, 26 and 29

Points aren’t required for Bombers. These picks are more or less same value.

Personally I’d hate it. 29 to McVee.

 

[Docker82]

Blake Acres is just an example.

There are literally heaps out there where if a player is out of contract, the team that has the player rarely receives ‘fair’ and just receives what the buying team can offer.

We can’t offer 25-29. We don’t have that pick. So, why should we have to attempt to extract value to satisfy them??

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills and everyone is missing my point and quoting that Acres is a spud etc.

Rarely do teams ‘try’ to compromise when they have the upper hand.

What I’m saying is put 33 on the table. It’s then up to Melbourne to work the edges. Let them suggest 33 and a F2 for McVee and a F4 or whatever.

It 100% shouldn’t be on us to get a pick that they want.

There's probably 20 examples of out of contract players getting traded for close to fair value for every one thats significantly unders.

The idea that out of contract players are traded for unders every time is a myth.

And what's the difference between us and them getting the pick they want? We've got 10 days to do it.

 

[Taylor]

No Jye Simpkin suitors is a fun development. Now we find out who really wants the move, and who pushes things onto and off the table

 

[s_wd6]

Essendon may be a pick trade partner

Freo - 12, 33 and 44
Bombers - 20, 26 and 29

Points aren’t required for Bombers. These picks are more or less same value.

Personally I’d hate it. 29 to McVee.

Yeah was thinking along the same lines. But in that case we’re probably giving 26 for Mcvee

 

[Superkoops]

Which club would offer us a mid 20s pick in exchange for worse picks? Does David Walls need to use the jedi mind trick on a lesser list manager? "These are the picks you are looking for."

We get crafty with other pieces using trades for Reidy, Brodie (potentially upgrading existing picks or an F4), 44, 53, F3 etc.

Port Adelaide comes to mind. They have pick 28 (which will become 29).

34, Brodie, 45, 54 > 29, 49, 67

Bit convoluted but you get the idea

 

[Superkoops]

Blake Acres is just an example.

There are literally heaps out there where if a player is out of contract, the team that has the player rarely receives ‘fair’ and just receives what the buying team can offer.

We can’t offer 25-29. We don’t have that pick. So, why should we have to attempt to extract value to satisfy them??

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills and everyone is missing my point and quoting that Acres is a spud etc.

Rarely do teams ‘try’ to compromise when they have the upper hand.

What I’m saying is put 33 on the table. It’s then up to Melbourne to work the edges. Let them suggest 33 and a F2 for McVee and a F4 or whatever.

It 100% shouldn’t be on us to get a pick that they want.

Potentially I missed a few posts and made a conclusion and if that is the case I’m sorry. I don’t have time to scroll endlessly. Anyway when you put it like that I agree. We can have a go at trying to get that pick they would like but it may not happen and we wait on them to come up with something to satisfy the sweetening of pick 34.

I just read chuck 34 on the table and walk away. I assumed that meant Wallsy writes that number on a card with his phone number and buggers off to the pub for the rest of the week waiting for their call to do the deal.

Where ever it was that Acres was thrown into the mix is still a bad example. Not worth taking crazy pills over though.

 

[FreoGirl]

That's not what happened

He told north he wants to look around

that's what I heard/read too

 

[pK75]

Any of them actually gonna have list spots for our low value picks tho

Blues lost a few but are bringing in Reidy, buku and chesthair

This is why I think we downgrade pick 12 with one trade partner (Bombers) then hold the picks (we’ll have 5 spots open) until draft night, then have a prearranged trade with someone (GC currently have the pick we’d want and need points but that could all change in the next few days)

 

[freo_leo29]

Essendon may be a pick trade partner

Freo - 12, 33 and 44
Bombers - 20, 26 and 29

Points aren’t required for Bombers. These picks are more or less same value.

Personally I’d hate it. 29 to McVee.

Can't see us moving 12 down, that would be dumb af

 

[Docker82]

Can't see us moving 12 down, that would be dumb af

Not sure Essendon really have a need for our later picks either.

Reckon they'll do some sort of mass pick swap with Gold Coast or Carlton which will be what unlocks an opportunity for us.

 

[King Tenz]

Xander McGuire said on a poddy that Simpkin was front loaded and that's why north probably won't let him go

Makes sense, have paid him a big part of his contract, they just get stung if he leaves now

Damn… clubs can do that? Front load contracts and then hold players to said contract???

Somebody should’ve told Peter Bell this when Lachie Neale was looking to bounce.

 

[pK75]

Damn… clubs can do that? Front load contracts and then hold players to said contract???

Somebody should’ve told Peter Bell this when Lachie Neale was looking to bounce.

And Lobster

 

[Vimal Anand]

Can't see us moving 12 down, that would be dumb af

Our 12 is basically 17... if we downgrade we will be going to 25 territory and more academy kids may be bid between 20 and 30 as well... ..so that 17 may become 30 if we downgrade
.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We have limited positions on the main list and its a Goober draft. The only ones trading down are going to be points hunter or idiots like WC.

We will take 2 live picks at the draft at maximum. I will find where Walls lives and fart in his face after a whole day of drinking beer and eating meat if he breaks up 11 for McVee.

 

[Cobbler]

Potentially I missed a few posts and made a conclusion and if that is the case I’m sorry. I don’t have time to scroll endlessly. Anyway when you put it like that I agree. We can have a go at trying to get that pick they would like but it may not happen and we wait on them to come up with something to satisfy the sweetening of pick 34.

I just read chuck 34 on the table and walk away. I assumed that meant Wallsy writes that number on a card with his phone number and buggers off to the pub for the rest of the week waiting for their call to do the deal.

Where ever it was that Acres was thrown into the mix is still a bad example. Not worth taking crazy pills over though.

Yeah, I don’t mean just plonk it down and act tough. It’s literally our first offer with what we have.

Demons of course will say ‘we value him higher’

Freo ‘Yeah, ok, well we don’t have higher. What did you have in mind?’

Then they can do the maths with futures etc.

For us to have to go away and find that value is what strikes me as dumb. Walls may have speaking all around it, but it came across as if we had to find the better deal.

 

[freo_leo29]

Not sure Essendon really have a need for our later picks either.

Reckon they'll do some sort of mass pick swap with Gold Coast or Carlton which will be what unlocks an opportunity for us.

Issue is GC will want us to smuggle the picks through to draft night, doesn't help with McVee right now


Think it probably just ends up 34 and a F3 with maybe an F4 back instead as capital seems hard to get this year

 

[freo_leo29]

And Lobster

We did hold Lobb for 2022

Got Jackson in for 2023 and we knew he was definitely going the year after so we took a decent deal

 

[theGav56]

The Weller trade accounts for 1 player on our list. One, out of 44.

So far we've won the Clark and Jackson trades, and even accounting for Jye's underwhelming year we've edged the Cerra trade.

I think we paid fair value-ish for all of those trades.

But if the point of your post is the importance of individual top end players, I do agree.

 

[Cobbler]

We have limited positions on the main list and its a Goober draft. The only ones trading down are going to be points hunter or idiots like WC.

We will take 2 live picks at the draft at maximum. I will find where Walls lives and fart in his face after a whole day of drinking beer and eating meat if he breaks up 11 for McVee.

What if someone does something a bit dumb.

Like Essendon offer 20 and a F1 for 12?

Then we offer 20 for McVee and change?

 

[Docker82]

Issue is GC will want us to smuggle the picks through to draft night, doesn't help with McVee right now


Think it probably just ends up 34 and a F3 with maybe an F4 back instead as capital seems hard to get this year

Twomey was saying they might take as many as six academy players. They'll probably want to make eight list spots available pre-draft to make that happen (likely list structure of 30-4 before the draft).

They aren't anywhere near eight selections worth points yet. Reckon they'll make at least 3-4 pick swaps in the next 10 days tbh and probably another 2-3 on draft night.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

What if someone does something a bit dumb.

Like Essendon offer 20 and a F1 for 12?

Then we offer 20 for McVee and change?

That sounds like Rosa has inhaled toxic gas already and had an aneurysm

 

[Docker82]

What if someone does something a bit dumb.

Like Essendon offer 20 and a F1 for 12?

Then we offer 20 for McVee and change?

Jeez that's more than a bit dumb for a team likely to finish bottom six next year. Reckon they've got the fourth worst list in the comp tbh (although Melbourne probably get worse than them when trade period is done).

So it'd be something like Pick 5/6 (2026) and Pick 20 for Pick 12.

Reckon that'd give the North Melbourne trade last year a run for its money.

 

[freo_leo29]

Twomey was saying they might take as many as six academy players. They'll probably want to make eight list spots available pre-draft to make that happen (likely list structure of 30-4 before the draft).

They aren't anywhere near eight selections worth points yet. Reckon they'll make at least 3-4 pick swaps in the next 10 days tbh and probably another 2-3 on draft night.

Jeez how many players are they coughing up then

JUH and Trac in means they've got to get down to 28 pre those two