List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread (Cont’d)

[Pistol Night]

Crisp was not an A grader when we recruited him. Beams walked out obviously you have to trade when a player is demanding they want to go home

I think its a strength to recruit unknowns and turn them into A graders (Cameron, Crisp, Hill, Checkers) rather than blow your wad on established stars trying to win anything like St Kilda are attempting to do

 

[BEEG]

Heywood and 2x first for Curnow is an absolute steal.

Sydney have nailed this trade period.

Serong and Rosas Jr can both play and fill huge needs.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Cameron?

not when we traded for them

 

[Seedsfan]

I think its a strength to recruit unknowns and turn them into A graders (Cameron, Crisp, Hill, Checkers) rather than blow your wad on established stars trying to win anything like St Kilda are attempting to do

The point I was making with Crisp is we did win on that deal and with his recruitment. But our hand was forced with Beams demanding a trade, we never went out paying overs for him buying him at an absolute high.

 

[Seedsfan]

Heywood and 2x first for Curnow is an absolute steal.

Sydney have nailed this trade period.

Serong and Rosas Jr can both play and fill huge needs.

Why would a team with such a poor record in grand finals bring in a player like Charlie Curnow who disappears in finals?

 

[Pistol Night]

The point I was making with Crisp is we did win on that deal and with his recruitment. But our hand was forced with Beams demanding a trade, we never went out paying overs for him buying him at an absolute high.

Oh well at least we got a return when we got him back. . If you don't laugh you'll cry about Beams

 

[Pistol Night]

Why would a team with such a poor record in grand finals bring in a player like Charlie Curnow who disappears in finals?

Fair point. Match made in heaven

 

[Seedsfan]

Oh well at least we got a return when we got him back. . If you don't laugh you'll cry about Beams

The success of Crisp in the original trade numbs the pain of the disaster that was Beams’ return

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

It's a bit too hypothetical.
Would Fly change his daughter's name from Maggie to Bluey?

Yes

 

[Pistol Night]

The success of Crisp in the original trade numbs the pain of the disaster that was Beams’ return

We did ok out of DeGoey too. Could have been alot better but he still has a few years

 

[Pendles!]

So who would you target? King with the trade price attached or Voss? You should avoid trading where ever possible yes some times there is no other way but it should never be a priority

That’s not the point I am making.

I agree with your second post, but you originally said that we should never trade and that is completely wrong. Swapping 2nd and 3rd rounders for pro scouted talent is a huge part of building a squad, as we as Collingwood supporters know.

 

[Pistol Night]

It's a bit too hypothetical.
Would Fly change his daughter's name from Maggie to Bluey?

Bingo id hope

 

[Seedsfan]

That’s not the point I am making.

I agree with your second post, but you originally said that we should never trade and that is completely wrong. Swapping 2nd and 3rd rounders for pro scouted talent is a huge part of building a squad, as we as Collingwood supporters know.

Yep, sorry I do agree with you. I should have clarified it more in the first post

 

[BillyElliott]

 

[BEEG]

Why would a team with such a poor record in grand finals bring in a player like Charlie Curnow who disappears in finals?

Carlton have played like 3 finals which were all in one season.

Finals unproven.

 

[gouki88]

Less goals getting less of the footy is apparently better somehow.

You truly are impressively thick

 

[Pistol Night]

Good. As Ive said many times. **** Geelong

 

[Seedsfan]

You truly are impressively thick

That’s been your position all along. Just highlighting the stupidity of your stance

 

[Seedsfan]

Carlton have played like 3 finals which were all in one season.

Finals unproven.

And he was wearing Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak in all 3

 

[Vankri]

McStay was the only fringe player you listed. Mitchell won a Brownlow and the Hawks were paying half his wage. That’s worlds apart from North wanting a first rounder for Simpkin.

While I’ll admit Mitchell was never as good after breaking his leg. Simpkin was just never as good as him period.

Bobby, you brought in someone early 20s with elite potential. Coming off some health issues.

At least Rowbottom is 25 but Simpkin it’s a hard pass

I guess your first post was just a very extreme version of your thoughts. None of the above were elite at the time of the trade, one solid, one old and past his peak and one young with potential only.

It’s a balance of all the above factors. I’m not advocating for anyone in particular however a value based trade (eg second rounder) for someone with potential to help us other midfield is a good idea for me, even if they will not be elite. Though if you have to make the call Simpkin has more chances of playing as an A grader (no guarantee) because he’s been played out of position and in a shit team.

 

[gouki88]

That’s been your position all along. Just highlighting the stupidity of your stance

No, it hasn't been. Don't try and argue against a point you've invented, it makes you look cowardly. If you think all that matters for forwards is the number of goals kicked then you're a lost cause

 

[Seedsfan]

I guess your first post was just a very extreme version of your thoughts. None of the above were elite at the time of the trade, one solid, one old and pat his peak and one young with potential only.

It’s a balance of all the above factors. I’m not advocating for anyone in particular however a value based trade (eg second rounder) for someone with potential to help us other midfield is a good idea for me, even if they will not be elite. Though if you have to make the call Simpkin has more chances of playing as an A grader (no guarantee) because he’s been played out of position and in a shit team.

Simpkin is not that. What ever we need it’s not him

 

[YouBeauty]

Half their team is in Vegas or traded, so we might come within 30 points.

So Rayner and Mccluggage 30 possessions?

 

[jimmy35]

Yea, im wrong.... Lets go mortgage our future on Simpkin, a player no other team wanted to touch.

Yep you’re on to it. Shrewd.

 

[Jafo]

Does Watson really count?

Haha. For season 1992/1993 it did