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Just watched the gettable clip:

Jed Walter - very gettable, first cab off the rank listed, sounds like out of favour with Hardwick.

Lachie Neale - gettable, sounds like moving back to WA after being a big rooter around Brissy though.

Nate Caddy - not gettable, he's all in at Essendon, NOTHING TO SEE HERE (Cal Twomey, grain of salt).

Cooper Trembath - probably not, sounds like he's holding out on cash, North want him signed up while showing **** all.

Bodhi Uwland - not gettable, multiple clubs were interested, has a deal looming.

Mitch Lewis - gettable, unrestricted free agent, no real chatter from them around any club, more speculating about King, Dear, Chol etc.

Nick Daicos - nothing story, just a Tassie publicity talking point.

Zac Bailey - very gettable, sounds like they think he's leaving, more about trade or free agent.

Lachie Ash - probably not, just that there is interested.

Darcy Wilson - gettable, a stack of clubs enquiring, sounds like he's hearing out offers.

Bailey Humphrey - gettable, multiple clubs chasing him, sounds similar to Wilson, but longer contract.

Zak Butters - remotely gettable to Richmond, sounds like the Daicos point, just a bit of a Richmond publicity piece about the amount of cash available.

Ned Moyle - possibly gettable, feels like Moyle gets brought up all the time, so just a recycled talking point. Gave a bit of a drive bye on Witts

Reilly O'Brien - gettable, I don't think anyone wants ROB though... Sounded more like he'd look around.

Trent Rivers - gettable, unclear if out of favour or injury niggles, still contracted though. Sounded like WA clubs would be keen.

Miles Bergmann - probably not, playing like a spud though basically. Talked up about trading him for more value rather than losing him as a FA next year.

Alex Davies - gettable, about 5 seconds of comment, he's on the fringes.

Mitch Georgiades - not gettable this year, can't see Port letting him go with another year, but people sniffing around.

Ben King - marginally gettable (specifically to St Kilda), sounded like Hawthorn and Collingwood most keen.

Elijah Tsatas - gettable (that from Twomey as well), sounds like if he's not given more game time he'd look elsewhere.

Beau McCreery - not gettable, maybe in a few years. Tasmania talking point for publicity.

Tobie Travaglia - marginally gettable, some injury niggles, no real talk about any particular club sniffing around.


I would say more than half of the talked about players were not likely, just talking points about players to Tassie, some fringe Gold Coast players maybe looking to move, a few Port players seeing the looming bottoming out, a few Lions players out for pay (Bailey) or back home (Neale).

Ain't no way Gold Coast let both King and Walter go and King is looking like a Coleman medallist so far this year, he'd be one they fight for. A whole lot of nothing in that segment.
 
Wilson for Trembath would be a good trade if he was going to leave. Dunno how feasible it is
would be a very nice fit, an actual forward who can chop out in the ruck, but probably a pipe dream. I reckon he'll want to repay North for taking the punt. should be rising star favourite along with Willem IMO. he's actually a couple of months younger than Wilson too

fun fact, nobody (excluding mature agers 28yo+) has kicked more goals in their first 8 games this century. which is a good stat until you see he is tied with John Butcher and Ben McKinley. but he definitely looks the goods at this stage
 
Why would Wilson want to leave. How much more money would he be getting offered?
You would want a top ten pick for him
Yeah, by “he” I meant his agent, who would be telling Darcy, sit back and I’ll get you the best possible deal considering the Saints appear to have the $$$.
 
Sure but how much of it is information from agents trying to drive up the contract of their clients before they re-sign.
Case in point - Josh Weddle's manager leaking a story that Essendon is interested a few days after trade period to drive up his price when negotiating an extension. Weddle let it slip in his post announcement interview thats what they did.
 

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How much of Ben King wants to come to St Kilda and play with his brother?

If he does and we are keen .... how do we structure his deal so the GC Nepos dont match given he is RFA?

Could 2 Kings work in our forwardline?
 
Bagging our ex captain who won 2 bnfs and all Aus sure I’ll give you a couple of down years but Lyon never fully backed him in its no coincidence when he first got the job his numbers dropped. But when he gets backed in and plays full time mid he’s back to his best but yep let’s see how he goes rd 16
Bagging or facts ?
Don’t like it don’t read it? But facts are last few years he was poor
 
Could 2 Kings work in our forwardline?
not a huge worry. since being drafted, they have both been fit to play only 53 times of a possible 167

but they have missed together only 18 times. that's almost 90% availability of 1 or more Kings!

just swap the fit one for the injured one
 
Bagging or facts ?
Don’t like it don’t read it? But facts are last few years he was poor
Not being backed in by your coach and not playing the position your built for are the facts. Playing half fwd in his 200th said it all and was a complete joke
 
Wilson for Trembath would be a good trade if he was going to leave. Dunno how feasible it is
Trembath looks awesome - absolutely no chance North gives him up. And players don't really get traded straight up for other players anyway
 
Would hate to lose Wilson! But what would a realistic contract offer be for him?
Three years would probably be a fair number, probably double or a bit over his draftee contract (120-130K base payment)
 
I was pretty vocal about not breaking the bank for Windhager - and I'm the same with Wilson.

Flashes of brilliance of course - but we have more pressing contracts to deal with than his in the coming years.

That's not to say he can't become consistent and an absolute star - but I'm still not sure at this stage.

I feel differently about Hall, Garcia and Tauru than Wilson right now.

Want to keep Wilson but not sure we should retain him if we have to pay way above market value.
 

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Three years would probably be a fair number, probably double or a bit over his draftee contract (120-130K base payment)
Are you suggesting we should offer him three years at 400k a season?

I think there is no chance we retain him on that kind of money - even if it might be a more accurate representation of his value than what is being demanded.
 
Three years would probably be a fair number, probably double or a bit over his draftee contract (120-130K base payment)
Average player salary will be 500k+ this year. There is no way in hell a best 22 player is staying on for less then that.

North would be offering him 700k at a minimum which will likely go up if he has a consistently good year.
 
How much of Ben King wants to come to St Kilda and play with his brother?

If he does and we are keen .... how do we structure his deal so the GC Nepos dont match given he is RFA?

Could 2 Kings work in our forwardline?
Didn't BKing just sign on for more years at CG?
 
I was pretty vocal about not breaking the bank for Windhager - and I'm the same with Wilson.

Flashes of brilliance of course - but we have more pressing contracts to deal with than his in the coming years.

That's not to say he can't become consistent and an absolute star - but I'm still not sure at this stage.

I feel differently about Hall, Garcia and Tauru than Wilson right now.

Want to keep Wilson but not sure we should retain him if we have to pay way above market value.
I think Windhager is a better footballer right now, and he is two years older.

But Wilson has a 23 and 5 on this resume already. He's a difference maker.

I got in trouble last year (and I love Windy) for suggesting Windhager is a foot soldier. He's a very good one, and the sort of foundation piece good teams are built on, but he's a soldier. Wilson is absolutely not.

Doesn't mean we should overpay for him... but I'd rather overpay for Wilson than Windhager.
 
I think Windhager is a better footballer right now, and he is two years older.

But Wilson has a 23 and 5 on this resume already. He's a difference maker.

I got in trouble last year (and I love Windy) for suggesting Windhager is a foot soldier. He's a very good one, and the sort of foundation piece good teams are built on, but he's a soldier. Wilson is absolutely not.

Doesn't mean we should overpay for him... but I'd rather overpay for Wilson than Windhager.
Fair enough.

I'm just not sure Wilson is going to become the 22 disposals, 1.5 goals a game player we hope he will.

Some say it's the role and coaching why he is inconsistent at the moment.

For me, it's his willingness to attack the football and his confidence levels. He could barely hit a target early last season and you could see he was almost scared to bite off a dangerous kick.

He is arguably the fittest player in the AFL and he is pretty quick - but right now those attributes don't seem to be showing in his game.

He should be burning his opponent off. I want to see him being a line-breaker, running past for handballs, taking players on in the depths of quarters when players are struggling.

Maybe a move to half-back could be the shot?

It's possible he can become a top player, but I'm concerned with what I've been seeing over the past two seasons.

He still has plenty of time, but I would be stressed about paying upwards of 600k for what has been shown so far - a player that has been in the best players twice since the start of 2025.
 

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Fair enough.

I'm just not sure Wilson is going to become the 22 disposals, 1.5 goals a game player we hope he will.

Some say it's the role and coaching why he is inconsistent at the moment.

For me, it's his willingness to attack the football and his confidence levels. He could barely hit a target early last season and you could see he was almost scared to bite off a dangerous kick.

He is arguably the fittest player in the AFL and he is pretty quick - but right now those attributes don't seem to be showing in his game.

He should be burning his opponent off. I want to see him being a line-breaker, running past for handballs, taking players on in the depths of quarters when players are struggling.

Maybe a move to half-back could be the shot?

It's possible he can become a top player, but I'm concerned with what I've been seeing over the past two seasons.

He still has plenty of time, but I would be stressed about paying upwards of 600k for what has been shown so far - a player that has been in the best players twice since the start of 2025.

Its possible you're just impatient.

He's young and immature in terms of experience and needs to earn the right to play more inside.

He's got the game, just needs patience.
 
Its possible you're just impatient.

He's young and immature in terms of experience and needs to earn the right to play more inside.

He's got the game, just needs patience.
Yeah, maybe I am.

I want him to stay. I think he can be an excellent player.

I'm just worried that he might not develop into what we want him to on what I've seen so far and if we pay big coin to retain him, it could really put the squeeze on our wages.
 
Its possible you're just impatient.

He's young and immature in terms of experience and needs to earn the right to play more inside.

He's got the game, just needs patience.
I guess we are all (St Kilda included) being forced to make a judgement call on him when we don't have enough information.

That's the name of the game these days. Especially when players have the power in contract negotiations due to free agency.
 
Yeah, maybe I am.

I want him to stay. I think he can be an excellent player.

I'm just worried that he might not be on what I've seen so far and if we pay big coin to retain him, it could really put the squeeze on our wages.

I can't see him ending up any worse than an above average player.

And he's been very durable so far with his body so that's not looking like a big risk at this stage.

We probably do need to pay him a bit on potential if we want to keep him though.
 
Fair enough.

I'm just not sure Wilson is going to become the 22 disposals, 1.5 goals a game player we hope he will.

Some say it's the role and coaching why he is inconsistent at the moment.

For me, it's his willingness to attack the football and his confidence levels. He could barely hit a target early last season and you could see he was almost scared to bite off a dangerous kick.

He is arguably the fittest player in the AFL and he is pretty quick - but right now those attributes don't seem to be showing in his game.

He should be burning his opponent off. I want to see him being a line-breaker, running past for handballs, taking players on in the depths of quarters when players are struggling.

Maybe a move to half-back could be the shot?

It's possible he can become a top player, but I'm concerned with what I've been seeing over the past two seasons.

He still has plenty of time, but I would be stressed about paying upwards of 600k for what has been shown so far - a player that has been in the best players twice since the start of 2025.
I thought he was about our best player (and best when we were going well, a huge reason we were putting a gap in the game) v GWS. His numbers don't look that different to Brad Hill's in his third season.

And I think generally there are views about salary that don't reflect the current state of play. The average player salary in 2025 was over $500k. Take out blokes on just drafted deals, and that would rise to closer to $650k. So that is basically the price for a building block replacement 16th-23rd best player on a list now.

I think if we were able to secure him to a 3yr, $2.1m contract, we'd be doing pretty well considering the alternate offers he's likely to receive.
 
I can't see him ending up any worse than an above average player.

And he's been very durable so far with his body so that's not looking like a big risk at this stage.

We probably do need to pay him a bit on potential if we want to keep him though.
If you had to choose between overpaying for potential on three out of these four players...who would you choose?

Wilson, Hall, Garcia and Tauru.
 

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