Training 2026 Pre Season Training Thread

[Jeffers]

Hopefully Mclean has also worked on his ability to move in a 3 dimensional space. Need 2023 Mclean back.

Yes. Would like to see how he went in the agility test trial

 

[anotherletdown]

Yes. Would like to see how he went in the agility test trial

Still doing it I'd heard

Seriously though, what a hard working and determined player he is. Might seem a bit limited but the guy is squeezing every bit out of his career, good on him.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

More 2km time trial content

 

[Superstar swan]

Seeing the clips of the boys training is getting me pumped for the upcoming season

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

I heard the mighty Jack Hiscox

Jack Hiscox

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

74kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

7.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

decided to run his own time trial. He finished the 2km course in 5:23.

Jacks back baby, jacks back.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Perhaps after Christmas

 

[Kiama Chris]

What ?

Tackling with power bedford . Drills, practice as you mean to play. All that stuff that I'm sure you're absolutely familiar with.
After Christmas refers to having something to look forward to.
This is the last one word post I will respond to.

 

[bedford]

Tackling with power bedford . Drills, practice as you mean to play. All that stuff that I'm sure you're absolutely familiar with.
After Christmas refers to having something to look forward to.
This is the last one word post I will respond to.

Has
it
got
anything
to
do
with
us

 

[robbieando]

Has
it
got
anything
to
do
with
us

and?

 

[bedford]

and?

Has it ? and that's the last time i will answer one word , on advice from KC

 

[Kiama Chris]

Has
it
got
anything
to
do
with
us

Yes Bedford it does. There are some of our players who need to learn how to tackle. While this is a rugby clip the points made about momentum and body positioning hold true across all tackle sports.
In any of our club photos and videos have you ever seen tackling training or practice?
Think of the good tackles you have seen from Heeney, Wicks and others (Rowbottom wraps rather than hits) and they look a lot like these exercises.
That's why I posted it. I figured most people would get it without an explanation.

 

[bedford]

Yes Bedford it does. There are some of our players who need to learn how to tackle. While this is a rugby clip the points made about momentum and body positioning hold true across all tackle sports.
In any of our club photos and videos have you ever seen tackling training or practice?
Think of the good tackles you have seen from Heeney, Wicks and others (Rowbottom wraps rather than hits) and they look a lot like these exercises.
That's why I posted it. I figured most people would get it without an explanation.

I thought it might be that , but training has changed these days , it used to be things like 2 on 1's and 3 on 2's , so more technique these days KC

 

[Kiama Chris]

I thought it might be that , but training has changed these days , it used to be things like 2 on 1's and 3 on 2's , so more technique these days KC

If you say so.

 

[bedford]

If you say so.

I would probably think so and maybe done inside away from prying eyes , but i do agree on the training . Didn't Tom Hafey have a league bloke come in to train our blokes back in the day

 

[Callipygian]

Tackling in footy is a lot different than league and there is a much higher duty of care these days. A lot of rugby/league tackles wouldn't be legal in footy, even apart from high contact. This drill is reminiscent of the much maligned 'Run it Straight' thing which has big concussion/head injury issues - even though in the drill they are using a pad.

Still, I agree that they really should be taught - and practice - tackling, and I've never seen them do it, except in match sim, on the oval. How else are they meant to be good at it, let alone better and best?

 

[Kiama Chris]

Tackling in footy is a lot different than league and there is a much higher duty of care these days. A lot of rugby/league tackles wouldn't be legal in footy, even apart from high contact. This drill is reminiscent of the much maligned 'Run it Straight' thing which has big concussion/head injury issues - even though in the drill they are using a pad.

Still, I agree that they really should be taught - and practice - tackling, and I've never seen them do it, except in match sim, on the oval. How else are they meant to be good at it, let alone better and best?

While a lot of that is true the basic mechanics of moving into the tackle, setting your feet and body angle optimally and getting your own head into the right place are still pretty much the same. The target area should definitely be lower to minimise the possibility of contacting the head (as it should be in both rugbys!). Wrapping up the ball is also an objective in all three.
The big difference to me is the "herding" aspect in Rules to try to force error so sometimes you deliberately don't tackle. You see them practice that quite a lot but not the actual tackling.
You attend quite a bit of training - have you ever seen it?

 

[joeykanga]

Perhaps after Christmas

I feel like theres not so much of that head on tackling in AFL. Players dont try to run through you. This would probably work well in that initial tackle one off the ruck contest. In AFL one has to stay on ones feet and keep alive for the next movement. I do agree theres a place for it. Sam Wicks is a great example of that driving force tackler that makes the person being tackled less precise with their offloads.
Also in our game theres a much smaller target area for the tackler and afl players are now responsible for that momentum injury so you can't really follow through as much. I think Wicksy has been penalised a few times for the force of a tackle that seemed perfectly legal in the other footy codes.
I do value tackling and agree that they should all be honed up on the skillset needed for that in Afl with its unique interpretations.

 

[joeykanga]

While a lot of that is true the basic mechanics of moving into the tackle, setting your feet and body angle optimally and getting your own head into the right place are still pretty much the same. The target area should definitely be lower to minimise the possibility of contacting the head (as it should be in both rugbys!). Wrapping up the ball is also an objective in all three.
The big difference to me is the "herding" aspect in Rules to try to force error so sometimes you deliberately don't tackle. You see them practice that quite a lot but not the actual tackling.
You attend quite a bit of training - have you ever seen it?

I agree with you in that you do see that herding and theyre almost playing touch football at times. Theres so many times it looks like they just got there a millisecond too late and almost tap or push and move on to the next. Its hard because its split second and unlike most other codes our players are trying to offload the ball. In other codes not so much so you can fully commit.
But we could be better at anticipating the outlet option of the intended tackler and aim for that to be cut off rather than being witches' hats

 

[Kiama Chris]

I agree with you in that you do see that herding and theyre almost playing touch football at times. Theres so many times it looks like they just got there a millisecond too late and almost tap or push and move on to the next. Its hard because its split second and unlike most other codes our players are trying to offload the ball. In other codes not so much so you can fully commit.
But we could be better at anticipating the outlet option of the intended tackler and aim for that to be cut off rather than being witches' hats

Yes, there's a fine line between being too close and too distant in different circumstances. The arm waving usually means you were out of position and got evaded. It will always happen against good players and that's why it's so important to have a group applying pressure, not just one or two.
The strong tackling is more likely to happen in tight off one or two steps. Heeney is terrific at that. Great leg drive.

 

[KTT]

Yes Bedford it does. There are some of our players who need to learn how to tackle. While this is a rugby clip the points made about momentum and body positioning hold true across all tackle sports.
In any of our club photos and videos have you ever seen tackling training or practice?
Think of the good tackles you have seen from Heeney, Wicks and others (Rowbottom wraps rather than hits) and they look a lot like these exercises.
That's why I posted it. I figured most people would get it without an explanation.

Tackling in Rugby League or Rugby Union is completely different to AFL. 360 degree game, pinning the arms etc etc etc.
The Swans coaches have traditionally had close relationships with NRL coaches so Im sure they've talked about appropriate tips with tackling.
Heeney, Wicks, Mills etc etc etc played a lot of league/union, so, again, any tips re tackling are well known within the Swans

Im not sure an englishman (as in your video) who likely doesn't know Aussie Rules has anything to offer the Swans.

 

[joeykanga]

Yes, there's a fine line between being too close and too distant in different circumstances. The arm waving usually means you were out of position and got evaded. It will always happen against good players and that's why it's so important to have a group applying pressure, not just one or two.
The strong tackling is more likely to happen in tight off one or two steps. Heeney is terrific at that. Great leg drive.

I agree and Heeney is really good at that

 

[joeykanga]

Tackling in Rugby League or Rugby Union is completely different to AFL. 360 degree game, pinning the arms etc etc etc.
The Swans coaches have traditionally had close relationships with NRL coaches so Im sure they've talked about appropriate tips with tackling.
Heeney, Wicks, Mills etc etc etc played a lot of league/union, so, again, any tips re tackling are well known within the Swans

Im not sure an englishman (as in your video) who likely doesn't know Aussie Rules has anything to offer the Swans.

What does nationality have to do with it. Surely they can see the game and analyze whats needed. The nrl coaches might not have seen much afl either but they can massage whats applicable and whats not.
DId Bill Knowles know much about AFL.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Tackling in Rugby League or Rugby Union is completely different to AFL. 360 degree game, pinning the arms etc etc etc.
The Swans coaches have traditionally had close relationships with NRL coaches so Im sure they've talked about appropriate tips with tackling.
Heeney, Wicks, Mills etc etc etc played a lot of league/union, so, again, any tips re tackling are well known within the Swans

Im not sure an englishman (as in your video) who likely doesn't know Aussie Rules has anything to offer the Swans.

I begin to wonder if it's worth posting ANY EFFING THING on this place.
The point of the post was that they need to train and practice tackling.
You can all EFF OFF.

 

[KTT]

What does nationality have to do with it. Surely they can see the game and analyze whats needed. The nrl coaches might not have seen much afl either but they can massage whats applicable and whats not.
DId Bill Knowles know much about AFL.

That fella in the video has prob never watched a game of aussie rules, so prob has no idea of the differences required in tackling. Therefore what hes suggesting has no relevance.
Kind of like the english haven't watched test match cricket for a loooong time, so dont know how to..
See off the new ball
defend the ball just outside off
bowl long spells
etc etc etc

 

[joeykanga]

That fella in the video has prob never watched a game of aussie rules, so prob has no idea of the differences required in tackling. Therefore what hes suggesting has no relevance.
Kind of like the english haven't watched test match cricket for a loooong time, so dont know how to..
See off the new ball
defend the ball just outside off
bowl long spells
etc etc etc

That's a lot of assumptions. I think in today's world we have afl fans and watchers in all corners of the world doing podcasts and analyzing.
I liked the humour at the end though