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satty said:
Why the hell would any want to come to Collingwood right now? Especially someone like neale.
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No Idea as we are Miles off a Flag
 

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nickyds35 said:
Other teams recruit what they need (Smith to Geelong, Lynch to Tigers, Daniher/Neale to Lions), we just recruit what falls into our lap in trade week (Houston, Perryman, Schultz).

Small club mentality from the biggest club in the land….

Our best midfielder (Naicos) was handed to us as a freebie, our second best mid was drafted 21 years ago, next best 18 years ago. Rest of midfield were junk picks/leftovers….

Negligent list management.
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It is well known the club had previously major salary cap constraints for the best part of 10 years.

Your claim that Collingwood “only recruits what falls into our lap” ignores that elite clubs often recruit opportunistically because they already have strong foundations. The examples mentioned — Dan Houston, Harry Perryman, Lachie Schultz — weren’t random leftovers. They were targeted acquisitions to address specific needs:
  • Houston = elite ball use and rebound from half-back
  • Perryman = versatile two-way runner with finals experience
  • Schultz = forward pressure and goal craft
That’s list management. Not every successful move has to be a “win the headline” mega-trade.

Meanwhile, plenty of clubs that aggressively chased stars have failed anyway. Recruiting big names is not automatically smart recruiting. Essendon Football Club and Carlton Football Club spent years winning trade period headlines without translating it into sustained success.

The Bailey Smith point is especially weak in hindsight. Smith was never a chance to come to Collingwood because:
  • Smith himself said Geelong was effectively his choice early,
  • he had already purchased property in Geelong,
  • he was already an ambassador for, and was sponsored by a Geelong Clothing Company/ Geelong FC Sponsor
  • lifestyle and location heavily influenced the decision,
  • Geelong had been preparing for that move longer.
Neil Balme had a long-term relationship with Lynch. He had continued that relationship when we shafted him and he went to Richmond. Lynch has acknowledged that his friendship with Balme had significantly contributed to him choosing the Tigers (as did the 2017 premiership)

In October 2020, it was Joe Daniher’s management approached that the Brisbane Lions to express his desire to join them, leading to him nominating the club as his preferred new home. He wanted out of the fishbowl of AFL in Victoria and had plans to purchase property in Byron Bay

The “Naicos was handed to us” argument is also selective. Father-son rules are available to every club. Some clubs maximise them well; others don’t. That’s not luck — it’s part of the AFL system. Nick Daicos still had to become arguably the best player in the competition through development, professionalism and coaching.

And calling the rest of the midfield “junk picks/leftovers” ignores how modern premiership teams are actually built:
  • Scott Pendlebury was pick 5
  • Steele Sidebottom was pick 11
  • Jodan Degoey was pick 5 and was developed internally
  • Darcy Moore and Josh Daicos were father-son and developed patiently
  • Jack Crisp and Darcy Cameron became elite after arriving from other clubs
  • Mason Cox was pick 60 and Brody Mihocek was pick 22 in the rookie draft
  • Pat Lipinski couldn’t get a game at a game at his initial club
  • Bobby Hill displayed potential at GWS. We got him for a packet of chips. He won a Norm Smith Medal
  • Daniel McStay was an unrestricted free agent. The club had worked on him for 12 months before he agreed to come to the club. His PF contributed to us making and winning the GF
  • John Noble was picked up in the 2018 MSD
  • Tom Mitchell and Billy Frampton were recruited cheaply and became important depth and premiership players
  • Oleg Markov was a PSS pick
That’s exactly how strong clubs operate: draft well, develop well, trade strategically, and maximise role players.

Most importantly, the “small club mentality” accusation doesn’t line up with results. Since 2018, if our list management is so negligent, how have we played in multiple prelims, two grand finals and won a flag while staying competitive the whole time?”
 
nickyds35 said:
Other teams recruit what they need (Smith to Geelong, Lynch to Tigers, Daniher/Neale to Lions), we just recruit what falls into our lap in trade week (Houston, Perryman, Schultz).

Small club mentality from the biggest club in the land….

Our best midfielder (Naicos) was handed to us as a freebie, our second best mid was drafted 21 years ago, next best 18 years ago. Rest of midfield were junk picks/leftovers….

Negligent list management.
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But Houston, Perryman and Schultz are needs.

After 2023, we had the choice of adding senior players or just falling to the bottom. We made the logical choice. Those 3 are really important important parts of moving past the oldies that we were going to lose - starting with Adams at the end of 2023.
 
Trent from Pannoo Road said:
you realise you are now over the cliff?
sidebottom, howe, crisp and possibly pendlebury and elliott retire.
Hill will go for peanuts now.
You have no players with trade currency to get a butters or king, you need more mids thwn fwds into your side.

Darcy Cameron might get you west coasts second round, pick 19 and Houston might be worth a 2nd now, thats all you have to give plus a pick about 10 in the draft
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Your first post on BF but if you ask me it's one too many.
 
Roverjg said:
It is well known the club had previously major salary cap constraints for the best part of 10 years.

Your claim that Collingwood “only recruits what falls into our lap” ignores that elite clubs often recruit opportunistically because they already have strong foundations. The examples mentioned — Dan Houston, Harry Perryman, Lachie Schultz — weren’t random leftovers. They were targeted acquisitions to address specific needs:
  • Houston = elite ball use and rebound from half-back
  • Perryman = versatile two-way runner with finals experience
  • Schultz = forward pressure and goal craft
That’s list management. Not every successful move has to be a “win the headline” mega-trade.

Meanwhile, plenty of clubs that aggressively chased stars have failed anyway. Recruiting big names is not automatically smart recruiting. Essendon Football Club and Carlton Football Club spent years winning trade period headlines without translating it into sustained success.

The Bailey Smith point is especially weak in hindsight. Smith was never a chance to come to Collingwood because:
  • Smith himself said Geelong was effectively his choice early,
  • he had already purchased property in Geelong,
  • he was already an ambassador for, and was sponsored by a Geelong Clothing Company/ Geelong FC Sponsor
  • lifestyle and location heavily influenced the decision,
  • Geelong had been preparing for that move longer.
Neil Balme had a long-term relationship with Lynch. He had continued that relationship when we shafted him and he went to Richmond. Lynch has acknowledged that his friendship with Balme had significantly contributed to him choosing the Tigers (as did the 2017 premiership)

In October 2020, it was Joe Daniher’s management approached that the Brisbane Lions to express his desire to join them, leading to him nominating the club as his preferred new home. He wanted out of the fishbowl of AFL in Victoria and had plans to purchase property in Byron Bay

The “Naicos was handed to us” argument is also selective. Father-son rules are available to every club. Some clubs maximise them well; others don’t. That’s not luck — it’s part of the AFL system. Nick Daicos still had to become arguably the best player in the competition through development, professionalism and coaching.

And calling the rest of the midfield “junk picks/leftovers” ignores how modern premiership teams are actually built:
  • Scott Pendlebury was pick 5
  • Steele Sidebottom was pick 11
  • Jodan Degoey was pick 5 and was developed internally
  • Darcy Moore and Josh Daicos were father-son and developed patiently
  • Jack Crisp and Darcy Cameron became elite after arriving from other clubs
  • Mason Cox was pick 60 and Brody Mihocek was pick 22 in the rookie draft
  • Pat Lipinski couldn’t get a game at a game at his initial club
  • Bobby Hill displayed potential at GWS. We got him for a packet of chips. He won a Norm Smith Medal
  • Daniel McStay was an unrestricted free agent. The club had worked on him for 12 months before he agreed to come to the club. His PF contributed to us making and winning the GF
  • John Noble was picked up in the 2018 MSD
  • Tom Mitchell and Billy Frampton were recruited cheaply and became important depth and premiership players
  • Oleg Markov was a PSS pick
That’s exactly how strong clubs operate: draft well, develop well, trade strategically, and maximise role players.

Most importantly, the “small club mentality” accusation doesn’t line up with results. Since 2018, if our list management is so negligent, how have we played in multiple prelims, two grand finals and won a flag while staying competitive the whole time?”
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sr36 said:
But Houston, Perryman and Schultz are needs.

After 2023, we had the choice of adding senior players or just falling to the bottom. We made the logical choice. Those 3 are really important important parts of moving past the oldies that we were going to lose - starting with Adams at the end of 2023.
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Really well argued points
I don’t fully agree with them but this is why I enjoyed reading this board and getting alternative viewpoints

At the end of 2023 and getting the flag, I thought we needed to start get in a young key forward / fast tough mids (not easy I know) as the next wave so I’d have done it differently - but that may have played out worse - but I won’t shy away from what I thought was right

Schultz / Houston are great acquisitions but I wouldn’t have paid up for them - just IMO - but I can see why the club others thought it was the way to go — just thought it should have been YTT
Perhaps I’d look at these trades more favourably if I was so annoyed at picks we did make around that time and it’s transference of frustration

Perryman I loved this - only hit to our cap and super versatile

Anyway, it’s done

If Howes and West can take the next step it will be really help our build - and we need them to

Now it’s about getting in UFA that are going to support Nick and finding a way to trade talent in cheaply or draft some speed, toughness

So what do we do at the end of 2026?
Kelly’s comments seem to suggest we’ll use our picks and try to bring in more (no how yet)
I’m not convinced picks won’t go out again

Here’s hoping we absolutely nail the picks we do keep
 
Trent from Pannoo Road said:
you realise you are now over the cliff?
sidebottom, howe, crisp and possibly pendlebury and elliott retire.
Hill will go for peanuts now.
You have no players with trade currency to get a butters or king, you need more mids thwn fwds into your side.

Darcy Cameron might get you west coasts second round, pick 19 and Houston might be worth a 2nd now, thats all you have to give plus a pick about 10 in the draft
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Thanks for your poor full of holes post. I appreciate you sharing your ignorance of our club. Maybe learn and read about the club before posting.
 
I can't believe people still think that the reason we're weak on the midfield front is that we traded picks in the high teens for proven afl grade talent.

You don't usually get top shelf midfielders at pick 18. And Collingwood hasn't, that's for sure. So the alternative is Houston or another Allan. Schultz we overpaid a bit for sure, but that's mostly because we didn't get enough for Ginni. Either way, we weren't getting a top ten pick. We were getting a pick somewhere in the high teens, possibly even in the 20s given all the matching etc.

It's very rare to draft elite midfield talent when you're in prelims. Geelong haven't done it, they traded for it (eg Treloar, Mitchell). But to the extent they've had some decent picks it's because they were lucky enough to trade out Tim Kelly at the perfect moment, which gave them a boost. Also that trade where they traded salary cap for pick 7.
 
Need Ben King desperately.

The leading craft of our forwards is non existent and IMO it’s not something most players can properly learn. It’s innate.

After Gunston, Ben King is best in the league.

Our midfield will look miles better when they actually have a player who can manage to get separation and space to kick to
 

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Rusty Beam said:
Need Ben King desperately.

The leading craft of our forwards is non existent and IMO it’s not something most players can properly learn. It’s innate.

After Gunston, Ben King is best in the league.

Our midfield will look miles better when they actually have a player who can manage to get separation and space to kick to
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King and Neale would really straighten us up
 
sherrife said:
I can't believe people still think that the reason we're weak on the midfield front is that we traded picks in the high teens for proven afl grade talent.

You don't usually get top shelf midfielders at pick 18. And Collingwood hasn't, that's for sure. So the alternative is Houston or another Allan. Schultz we overpaid a bit for sure, but that's mostly because we didn't get enough for Ginni. Either way, we weren't getting a top ten pick. We were getting a pick somewhere in the high teens, possibly even in the 20s given all the matching etc.

It's very rare to draft elite midfield talent when you're in prelims. Geelong haven't done it, they traded for it (eg Treloar, Mitchell). But to the extent they've had some decent picks it's because they were lucky enough to trade out Tim Kelly at the perfect moment, which gave them a boost. Also that trade where they traded salary cap for pick 7.
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They traded in Tanner Bruhn while Holmes, Dempsey and Atkins were drafted with similar picks that we chose Ryan, HDM and Allan.
Really cool story otherwise.
 
Ok.
I’m gunner say it.

I’d trade Darcy Moore.
 
sherrife said:
I can't believe people still think that the reason we're weak on the midfield front is that we traded picks in the high teens for proven afl grade talent.

You don't usually get top shelf midfielders at pick 18. And Collingwood hasn't, that's for sure. So the alternative is Houston or another Allan. Schultz we overpaid a bit for sure, but that's mostly because we didn't get enough for Ginni. Either way, we weren't getting a top ten pick. We were getting a pick somewhere in the high teens, possibly even in the 20s given all the matching etc.

It's very rare to draft elite midfield talent when you're in prelims. Geelong haven't done it, they traded for it (eg Treloar, Mitchell). But to the extent they've had some decent picks it's because they were lucky enough to trade out Tim Kelly at the perfect moment, which gave them a boost. Also that trade where they traded salary cap for pick 7.
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Bear in mind that Pick 7 that the Cats got they picked Jhye Clark who’s been nothing more than a depth player since his career began
 

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The Phantom said:
Ok.
I’m gunner say it.

I’d trade Darcy Moore.
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I said this about 3 weeks ago and everyone derided me. I suggested bringing in Butts and cashing in on Moore (not a realistic suggestion as I don’t think the club would do it under any circumstances).

Improves our cap, improves our age profile, likely improves our performance and we get to shed an injury prone player.

In that case, you also keep Howe for another year if he’s happy to play for chips.
 
sr36 said:
But Houston, Perryman and Schultz are needs.

After 2023, we had the choice of adding senior players or just falling to the bottom. We made the logical choice. Those 3 are really important important parts of moving past the oldies that we were going to lose - starting with Adams at the end of 2023.
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Apparently good players aren’t ‘needs’
 
We desperately need a KPD.
Moore is the most injury prone player on our list at the moment (behind reef)
This is likely Howe's last year.
Frampton is also 29, not exactly young.
We should be going after Butts hard
 

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