Player Watch #30: Reece Conca

[db26]

Not sure if the coaches are playing him because he deserves a spot and rate him or playing him to get form and continuity.Has improved in the guts,but still we have better in vfl.

 

[Goldust]

Not sure if the coaches are playing him because he deserves a spot and rate him or playing him to get form and continuity.Has improved in the guts,but still we have better in vfl.

Balanced post.
Refreshing.
Won't matter anyways .... Reece will pop a hammy soon, or snap a calf, or wose clock someone from behind during a brain fade.

 

[This Is Anfield]

Mmmm.... trust in the match committee that delivered the 2017 premiership and has us on top of the ladder or...

 

[tropicaltiger]

Balanced post.
Refreshing.
Won't matter anyways .... Reece will pop a hammy soon, or snap a calf, or wose clock someone from behind during a brain fade.

Sad post, got a feeling you sorta hope something goes wrong will Reece, just as much as him fighting for his spot with 6 - 8 others. to feel justified...yes i do understand dimma loves him, which gives him pole position but your being a bit of a tool about it IMO.

 

[Goldust]

Sad post, got a feeling you sorta hope something goes wrong will Reece, just as much as him fighting for his spot with 6 - 8 others. to feel justified...yes i do understand dimma loves him, which gives him pole position but your being a bit of a tool about it IMO.

Another brain-dead post from your good self.
Like really, do you and blokes like Smasha and others actually believe the nonsense you spew on here about poster X and poster Y hating Richmond, wanting us to fail and wanting to see blokes get injured.
Hey, why bother answering ... in your delusional little worlds, you bloke say it often enough you actually believe it.
Once and once only .... I apologise that I don't fit your coveted 'template' of how iit's supposed to be to a Richmond supporter and I don't meet my 'X' amount of posts criteria of needlessly blowing wind up a player or the club's arse.
It is what it is. Unlike most, I can congratulate Grimes on another great game, or praise Jayden Short's heralded improvement, or tell you how Nankervis on an ultra-poor day provides much more than Hampson on his best and rare day. But I quickly move on for want of repeating myself (and unlike some, unless provoked or responding to someone, I don't have to contribute six out of every eight posts to a thread) , but enjoy your template.
Good luck to Reece, hope he stays fit .. payed some good football this year, and played some ordinary football. I'll call it how I see it ... not put the blinkers on like some and ignore the bad.
Buy yes, history tells us to be cautious as he in injury prone.
PS Knock off the 100-times weekly posts about 'Dimma loves him' ... he loves every player.

 

[mopsy]

Mmmm.... trust in the match committee that delivered the 2017 premiership and has us on top of the ladder or...
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You wonder why threads degenerate into slanging matches.
Ah well we have become accustomed to the sheep defending being sheep.

For what its worth i happen to agree with MOST of what the match committee do. But unlike you i dont agree that they have got EVERYTHING right and that we can be better than we are.

 

[Sir_Loin]

He’s been playing well enough to hold his spot. Can’t see any other argument to the contrary TBH

 

[_RT_]

Rubbish inside mids role is to get first hands on the ball and dish it out. Failing that apply pressure to opponents ie tackle.
If we talk performance at the level their really is no comparison Miles wins hands down and it is backed up with stats.
Inside mids need Good stamina their job is to get from contest to contest. Get plenty of ball win contested ball win some clearances and tackle.
At this Miles remains one of the best at the club and Conca doesnt lay a glove on him.

Conca has never ever reached a consistent high standard in any area of the game and at age 26 he is never likely to.Hes prone to brain fades, poor decision making, and poor ball use and quite frankly doesnt win enough C/P'S or consistently get enough ball.
You mentionEed Conca's role is inside mid in that role and its proven Miles kills him.

So we cant agree with our eyes so lets look at the stats.

. Conca Miles.
DISPOSALS - 17.8 - 22.2
Kicks -10.2 - 11.1
H/Balls - 7.6 - 11.1
C/P'S - 6.1 - 10.3
Clr - - 2.1 - 4.9
Tackles - 3.5 - 4.1

Would also add that Miles has a better Disposal efficiency than Conca a better inside 50 rate and a better goals average.

Finally people who can't be seen to be wrong accuse him of being as slow as they come, yet hes as quick as half the list and no slower than some of the games best inside players.
Those inside stats stack up very favorably to Prestia and arent that far off Cotchin.Of course those two are a bit more rounded and do more on the outside.
Miles inside game doesnt need an upside its been consistently good enough for a long time Unlike Conca's

To me the most important area for an inside mid is an ability to win inside and contested ball, its what they are there to do.They also need to lay Tackles and win some Clearances when the opportunity arises and have a tank that enables them to get from contest to contest.

Our game plan revolves around maintaining high pressure all over the field and when we win the ball spreading hard from the contest to open up the opposition. Miles has been tried in this style and has constantly been exposed as not being good enough. The other thing with Miles is his lack of flexibility, Miles is an inside midfielder and that's pretty much it. You can't throw him on to a wing or into defence if things aren't going well. With guys like Conca McIntosh & the Ellis boys they have the ability to play those multiple roles. Interestingly this is never acknowledged by Miles' fans when discussing why he isn't picked, it's always he isn't a favourite of Dimma.

Can only suggest blokes like that that seriously lack in the rest of their lives, so have to compensate by taking pot shots at others who don't share some of their views on Big Footy. Pretty pathetic!
As I sarcastically posted on here last week, only to be pulled up, best and fairest votes mean nothing (which of course they do).
What do they reveal.
Well Miles finished third in 2015, sixth in 2016 and 11th in 2014 in about 11 games ..... double his vote tally for a full season and he comfortably wins it. And he wins the ressies b&f last year.
It's a record in our b@f the envy of all bar Martim, Cotchin and Rance for consistency, yet the eternal optimists continue to illuminate his flaws and paint him out to be a dud. Pathetic!!!
FFS ... had two blokes sitting on him all day in the Twos last week and still racked up 26 possies and was in our best. Yet blokes on here knock him all for a petty gripe with some fellow posters and continue to talk up CEllis' amazing 12 possession game. Incredible!

Steve Morris is another player to have 3 straight top 10 finishes in the Jack Dyer medal and he was roundly criticised as being no good and an honest toiler who was lucky to have lasted as long as he did. Kind of puts into perspective that record of Miles having finished top 10 3 years in a row.

 

[This Is Anfield]

You wonder why threads degenerate into slanging matches.
Ah well we have become accustomed to the sheep defending being sheep.

For what its worth i happen to agree with MOST of what the match committee do. But unlike you i dont agree that they have got EVERYTHING right and that we can be better than we are.

I don't always agree that the MC gets everything right, that would be practically impossible when dealing with human beings.
No club, player, coach or committee is perfect.
However, who am I, or you and any other poster, to get on my high horse to piss and moan about who I believe should be in or out.
If Anthony Miles is selected and Reece Conca dropped then I will accept that because the club will have valid reasons for doing so.
Then you hope that Miles plays so well that he can't be forced out.
My personal opinion is that Conca deserves his spot and that's bad luck for Miles.

 

[mopsy]

However, who am I, or you and any other poster, to get on my high horse to piss and moan about who I believe should be in or out.
If Anthony Miles is selected and Reece Conca dropped then I will accept that because the club will have valid reasons for doing so.

So why even post here. Forums are exactly that, a forum. if we all had your attitude there would be no debate at all.We would all just follow what the club does and talk about nothing else.
At the end of the day we all have to accept what the club does but it does not mean we have to agree with them.
The pissing and moaning you complain about at least is a differing point of view that questions what is going on and not just a person acting like a sheep.

 

[mopsy]

Our game plan revolves around maintaining high pressure all over the field and when we win the ball spreading hard from the contest to open up the opposition. Miles has been tried in this style and has constantly been exposed as not being good enough. The other thing with Miles is his lack of flexibility, Miles is an inside midfielder and that's pretty much it. You can't throw him on to a wing or into defence if things aren't going well. With guys like Conca McIntosh & the Ellis boys they have the ability to play those multiple roles. Interestingly this is never acknowledged by Miles' fans when discussing why he isn't picked, it's always he isn't a favourite of Dimma.



Steve Morris is another player to have 3 straight top 10 finishes in the Jack Dyer medal and he was roundly criticised as being no good and an honest toiler who was lucky to have lasted as long as he did. Kind of puts into perspective that record of Miles having finished top 10 3 years in a row.

If you really believe that mumbo jumbo fine. But it really is nonsense talk.

 

[_RT_]

If you really believe that mumbo jumbo fine. But it really is nonsense talk.

What's nonsense? Miles isn't capable of playing as a rebounding HB or as a gut running wing or as a high HF. He has been tried in the high HF role and has had little to no impact in that role. He plays his best as an inside midfielder, unfortunately for him there are better options playing that role ahead of him, like Martin Cotchin Lambert & Prestia while others like Grigg Edwards Conca & McIntosh are players who also have the ability to play those other roles. If Miles' fans are wanting him picked in the side the player he'd be pushing out would be Graham, but Grahams pressure rating is better than Miles and he also has a bigger upside.

 

[This Is Anfield]

So why even post here. Forums are exactly that, a forum. if we all had your attitude there would be no debate at all.We would all just follow what the club does and talk about nothing else.
At the end of the day we all have to accept what the club does but it does not mean we have to agree with them.
The pissing and moaning you complain about at least is a differing point of view that questions what is going on and not just a person acting like a sheep.

And if we all had your attitude there would be no debate at all as we would be bagging the club and talk about nothing else.
In truth, I have no issue at all with constant negativity as it balances beautifully with my constant positivity.

 

[Tiger2709]

So why even post here. Forums are exactly that, a forum. if we all had your attitude there would be no debate at all.We would all just follow what the club does and talk about nothing else.
At the end of the day we all have to accept what the club does but it does not mean we have to agree with them.
The pissing and moaning you complain about at least is a differing point of view that questions what is going on and not just a person acting like a sheep.

Your posts are fair enough and your opinion is as valid as anyones, right until the moment you call other posters sheep.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Can’t look at this thread without Dyson Heppell coming to mind and my God had that bloke gone backwards at a rate of knots.
He is now just a very very ordinary player with no great asset that comes to mind.

 

[Grrr]

Yep here i am actually defending a very good Richmond player and still cop crap. Nothing changes with the eternal optimists. dont dare criticise any player or take a balanced approach where you look at both sides of the coin for fear of copping the crap that we do.

Its laughable that people really think Conca has outperformed Anthony Miles when theres not one skerrick of evidence to support the stance.
But wait the club plays Conca over Miles so they must be right.Unthinking ill informed sheep.If the club said it was okay to jump off a cliff im sure they would.

Defending Miles is the definition of eternal optimism. Why exactly do you think the club is playing Conca over Miles then. What an arrogant pompous statement that we are all ill informed sheep, and you know better than not only us, but the footy dept. at the club. And we are following blindly.
I don't need stats to back my opinion, how many times have I heard you say that on this board. And I agree, stats are okay, but a bit of football knowledge is far better. So my opinion is, Conca has so much more to offer than Miles. That is probably why is being played in front of him. You think otherwise, so my opinion is not rubbish, it is just different to yours.
As an inside mid, yes Miles has better numbers because Conca has not played that roll much because pre injuries, he was just a young player starting his career. Since he has been cruelled by injury. He seems to be playing injury free and seriously fit, the first time in years. So using stats to back up that will swing it your way.
I have always backed Conca, and consider him a very talented footballer. I may be wrong, but Miles won't be the player replacing him if he falls short.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Can’t look at this thread without Dyson Heppell coming to mind and my God had that bloke gone backwards at a rate of knots.
He is now just a very very ordinary player with no great asset that comes to mind.

Yep so average and a terrible captain, taking Conca before him doesn’t bother me at all anymore.
Genuinely don’t think he’d get a game with us.

 

[THE_GUN]

Yep so average and a terrible captain, taking Conca before him doesn’t bother me at all anymore.
Genuinely don’t think he’d get a game with us.

LOl He would definitely be getting a game for us and would be killing it - Lets be real

 

[Heisenberg_]

LOl He would definitely be getting a game for us and would be killing it - Lets be real

Maybe exaggeration on my part, but he wouldn’t be killing it, seriously average player.
Would not be one of our top players, slow outside players with average skills don’t fit into our side very well.

 

[THE_GUN]

Maybe exaggeration on my part, but he wouldn’t be killing it, seriously average player.
Would not be one of our top players, slow outside players with average skills don’t fit into our side very well.

He would easily be best 15 on our list

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

LOl He would definitely be getting a game for us and would be killing it - Lets be real

Killing it? I find it hard to believe because his disposal is putrid these days even Essendon fans despair.

 

[THE_GUN]

Killing it? I find it hard to believe because his disposal is putrid these days even Essendon fans despair.

You think that might have something to do with the team and options he is presented having to kick the ball between players that have no seperation and being an out side player playing in a team with no inside mids cant be easy

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

You think that might have something to do with the team and options he is presented having to kick the ball between players that have no seperation and being an out side player playing in a team with no inside mids cant be easy

Yeah no doubt but it’s shown up some pretty serious flaws and limitations.

 

[Tony Harrison]

Heppel on Peds>Heppel now.

 

[KiwiTiger]

I caught up with Reece yesterday. Came over to say Kia Ora. He had some strapping on his thumb but he’s good to go.

Haere Ra