35 Prediction

[MagpieBat]

IIRC up until sometime in the 1970's

I think Ray Shaw was the first to break it, by keeping #23 when he became captain.

 

[MyManLynch]

glory be when did our captain wear number 1..?

Tradition started with Harry Collier 1936.
Then continued...thru to 1959.
Murray Weideman wore 1 1960-63 as Captain.
Ray Gabelich wore 1 1964-65 as Captain.
Des Tuddenham wore 1 1966-69 & 1976 as Captain.
Terry Waters wore 1 1970-71 as Captain.
Wayne Richardson wore 1 from 1971-75 as Captain.
Max Richardson wore 1 1977 as Captain.
Len Thompson wore 1 1978 as Captain.

So the Captain wore 1 from 1936 until 1978.
Ray Shaw was the first to break the 42 year tradition in 1979.

 

[jackcass]

IIRC up until sometime in the 1970's

Was Ray Shaw the first to buck the trend?

EDIT: As others have already alluded.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Tradition started with Harry Collier 1936.
Then continued...thru to 1959.
Murray Weideman wore 1 1960-63 as Captain.
Ray Gabelich wore 1 1964-65 as Captain.
Des Tuddenham wore 1 1966-69 & 1976 as Captain.
Terry Waters wore 1 1970-71 as Captain.
Wayne Richardson wore 1 from 1971-75 as Captain.
Max Richardson wore 1 1977 as Captain.
Len Thompson wore 1 1978 as Captain.

So the Captain wore 1 from 1936 until 1978.
Ray Shaw was the first to break the 42 year tradition in 1979.

Maybe the captain could wear 42!?!?!

 

[The Dawes]

Tradition started with Harry Collier 1936.
Then continued...thru to 1959.
Murray Weideman wore 1 1960-63 as Captain.
Ray Gabelich wore 1 1964-65 as Captain.
Des Tuddenham wore 1 1966-69 & 1976 as Captain.
Terry Waters wore 1 1970-71 as Captain.
Wayne Richardson wore 1 from 1971-75 as Captain.
Max Richardson wore 1 1977 as Captain.
Len Thompson wore 1 1978 as Captain.

So the Captain wore 1 from 1936 until 1978.
Ray Shaw was the first to break the 42 year tradition in 1979.

Some fine research there MML.

One interesting thing which I had forgotten is the number of different captains we had in a short space of time.

Every year from 1975-79 we had a change of captain.

 

[MyManLynch]

Some fine research there MML.

One interesting thing which I had forgotten is the number of different captains we had in a short space of time.

Every year from 1975-79 we had a change of captain.

Probably from winning the first spoon in 76, the club then went outside for a coach for the first time.
So an unsettled time. They seemed to be giving the captaincy to long term club servents, Tuddy, Max & Thommo.
Until the next generation took over (Ray Shaw).
It was amazing what Hafey did with Collingwood in 1977.

 

[Smoky]

Tradition started with Harry Collier 1936.
Then continued...thru to 1959.
Murray Weideman wore 1 1960-63 as Captain.
Ray Gabelich wore 1 1964-65 as Captain.
Des Tuddenham wore 1 1966-69 & 1976 as Captain.
Terry Waters wore 1 1970-71 as Captain.
Wayne Richardson wore 1 from 1971-75 as Captain.
Max Richardson wore 1 1977 as Captain.
Len Thompson wore 1 1978 as Captain.

So the Captain wore 1 from 1936 until 1978.
Ray Shaw was the first to break the 42 year tradition in 1979.

So that woul mean Ricky Barham would have been the first player not as Captain to wear number 1... in 42 years.

Maybe they changed the rule to pay respect to Tricky Ricky?

 

[The Dawes]

Probably from winning the first spoon in 76, the club then went outside for a coach for the first time.
So an unsettled time. They seemed to be giving the captaincy to long term club servents, Tuddy, Max & Thommo.
Until the next generation took over (Ray Shaw).
It was amazing what Hafey did with Collingwood in 1977.

still shake my head at the Hafey era - so many 'if onlys'

we deserved to win at least one.

 

[MyManLynch]

So that woul mean Ricky Barham would have been the first player not as Captain to wear number 1... in 42 years.

Maybe they changed the rule to pay respect to Tricky Ricky?

Correct, in 1979 when Shaw decided to stay with his 23, there was no player wearing 1 that year.
Then in 1980 Ricky Bahram changed from 43 to 1, becoming the first non captain to wear number 1 since the 1930's.
It was a general shift in thinking across many VFL clubs in the 70's...the captains basically decided to ditch the tradition & wear their existing number.
No Collingwood Captain has wore number 1 since.

 

[the mighty T]

If we must give it to the first pick of each year, I can only hope that the #35 is donned by either Aidyin Johnson or Daniel Rioli

 

[MyManLynch]

still shake my head at the Hafey era - so many 'if onlys'

we deserved to win at least one.

Yes indeed. Deserved 1 at least.
An interesting time...seeing Collingwood play in 4 Grand Finals in 5 years...so much joy during the season & the first 3 weeks of September...then...
The entire Football world was loving it...just waiting for Collingwood to fail again...the jokes, the media, it was tough.
Hafey was actually trying to 'moneyball' a flag, by bringing in recycled players, who weren't stars (or had past their use by date) but were willing to have a crack...Craig Davis, Ray Bryne, Russel Ohlsen, Kevin Morris, David Young, Mike Woolnough, Allen Edwards, Ross Brewer, Geoff Austen, Gerald Betts, Sam Kekovich, Ted Carroll, Laurie Sandilands, Ian Low, Alan Davis, Graeme Allan & Warwick Irwin to name a few.
This failure (to win a flag) laid the ground work for Ranald McDonalds New Magpies...high spending, big name recruits...which also failed & sent the club to the edge of bankruptcy.
1990 was such a joy after so much pain...

 

[The Dawes]

Yes indeed. Deserved 1 at least.
An interesting time...seeing Collingwood play in 4 Grand Finals in 5 years...so much joy during the season & the first 3 weeks of September...then...
The entire Football world was loving it...just waiting for Collingwood to fail again...the jokes, the media, it was tough.
Hafey was actually trying to 'moneyball' a flag, by bringing in recycled players, who weren't stars (or had past their use by date) but were willing to have a crack...Craig Davis, Ray Bryne, Russel Ohlsen, Kevin Morris, David Young, Mike Woolnough, Allen Edwards, Ross Brewer, Geoff Austen, Gerald Betts, Sam Kekovich, Ted Carroll, Laurie Sandilands, Ian Low, Alan Davis, Graeme Allan & Warwick Irwin to name a few.
This failure (to win a flag) laid the ground work for Ranald McDonalds New Magpies...high spending, big name recruits...which also failed & sent the club to the edge of bankruptcy.
1990 was such a joy after so much pain...

1977 really comes down to Phil Carman whacking Michael Tuck in the 2nd semi - if he didn't do that - we win.

If that win had happened who knows how differently things may have turned out from that point.... hang on, just going to jump into the DeLorean and see what can be done.....

 

[mike123]

Don't understand the #35 jumper hate.

I must want to see it come out 25 times a year.

 

[Dynamics]

Don't understand the #35 jumper hate.

It serves a practical purpose ...

... To instill in our most promising first year player a culture of sacrifice (Presti's 2010 GF)

What's wrong with creating a new tradition? They have to start sometime.

We'll get used to it ... Kinda like how we got used to the Captain not wearing the number 1.

I don't object to the concept itself. It's admirable and I was pretty much in favour of it at first. The only issue is that it's really Peter Daicos's number to me, not Presti's. I miss seeing it and the longer it goes on the more it feels like the number of a legend has been relegated to the VFL.