40 vs 20

[Duritz]

Hi Bay,

Duritz here, your Lord and master.

Oh, sorry, wrong board!

OK, floggos, question. 40 vs 20. Are you better at 40 years of age, or 20 years of age?

When I was 20, I knew everything. EVERYTHING. I was like Croweater only more up myself. I was really, really convinced that i was the best thing born since Leonardo. How bloody wrong I was.

At 38 (nearly 40, close enough, am 39 in Oct) I not only question everything I once thought, but dismiss a lot of it as rubbish. I am certain that I know far more now than I did then. This should be the norm.

HOWEVER... what have I (and others) lost along the way? The instinctual brilliance that I think a lot of us have at 18-23, we may not have now. That's the "think on your feet, without evidence" type response. Thing is, that might be the most honest one.

So, let's compare and discuss... are you better as a 20 year old, or a 40 year old? And (importantly) what is "better" in this context anyway? What is it to be better, and how do we achieve it?

GO!

 

[Footypie32]

30 FTW! Best of both worlds!

 

[The Passenger]

You're 38? oooo dear lord.

 

[Van_Dyke]

You're 38? oooo dear lord.

Doesn't he have kids as well?

 

[TheLoungeLizard]

I was like Croweater only more up myself.

This will end well.

 

[Duritz]

This will end well.

Ha. Selective quoting. That was just a quick, direct joke in the midst of a point unrelated, but that I was keen to explore.

Your thoughts? Based on your posting, you're either closer to 20 and the ladies man you profess to be (or, you pretend to be that) or you're a dirty old man pretending.

I am tipping the former, and I give close to 0 probability to the latter, so let that go and tell me your opinion on 40 vs 20.

 

[Duritz]

You're 38? oooo dear lord.

I am.

Doesn't he have kids as well?

I have five.

 

[TheLoungeLizard]

Ha. Selective quoting. That was just a quick, direct joke in the midst of a point unrelated, but that I was keen to explore.

Your thoughts? Based on your posting, you're either closer to 20 and the ladies man you profess to be (or, you pretend to be that) or you're a dirty old man pretending.

I am tipping the former, and I give close to 0 probability to the latter, so let that go and tell me your opinion on 40 vs 20.

I'm 20 so I'm brilliant, have no time for old people, know more than old people and still have time on my side.

 

[Van_Dyke]

I am.



I have five.

I'm impressed that you have 5 kids and still be prominent on the bay! Do you speak to them?

 

[Duritz]

I'm 20 so I'm brilliant, have no time for old people, know more than old people and still have time on my side.

OK, fine, but what I am suggesting is that I thought the same thing, at 20. However, at (as good as) 40 I now ask, was that right?

Think, don't just respond. Your method is to respond from the ID, don't do that. Think for a little.

 

[Duritz]

I'm impressed that you have 5 kids and still be prominent on the bay! Do you speak to them?

I adore them. I work 100% from home, for myself, and am extremely involved in their lives. I coach my son's basketball team, I will coach my twin girls team too when they're old enough (currently 4), I go to 90% of their things, I am very proud of how I am as a father.

 

[Van_Dyke]

I adore them. I work 100% from home, for myself, and am extremely involved in their lives. I coach my son's basketball team, I will coach my twin girls team too when they're old enough (currently 4), I go to 90% of their things, I am very proud of how I am as a father.

Sound like a great dad.

 

[TheLoungeLizard]

OK, fine, but what I am suggesting is that I thought the same thing, at 20. However, at (as good as) 40 I now ask, was that right?

Think, don't just respond. Your method is to respond from the ID, don't do that. Think for a little.

If you want a serious reply, no doubt you gain more experience at 40 and can have a better grounding for decisions but you lose the unpredictability and rawness of decisions I make at 20.
Sure, I don't think through a lot of them but that's what leads to my knowledge and I think more often than not as people age they should take more risks.
Is life better at 20?
No (but is life at 40 better than 30? And is 30 better than 65?), because I'm sure I'll find the 'older' experiences great as everyone does when I am 40 - but I can say 20 beats 18.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Hi Bay,

Duritz here, your Lord and master.

Oh, sorry, wrong board!

Stopped reading here.

 

[Duritz]

Here's one - I am no supermodel, but I am no ugly mug, either. Somewhere in the middle. But I reckon I am much better looking now at 38 than I was at 20. I look back and see a boy unsure of himself, even though I thought I knew everything.

There's something in this thing, this time and wisdom bit.

 

[little graham]

You're responsible for the consciousness of your community between the ages of forty to sixty.That is the age group in control of society. Before that you're evolving still. Your body may finished developing at 20, but your character/spirit/energy doesn't stop until forty. This is when it peaks. I've had a few intellectual chats with people over sixty, they say sixty goes to another level again.

Lfes only good at forty, if you're doing something about making it better for those 20. Life can't be better at 20, if those at 40 aren't making sure it is.

 

[Duritz]

Your responsible for the consciousness of your community between the ages of forty to sixty.That is the age group in control of society. Before that you're evolving still. Your body may finished developing at 20, but your character/spirit/energy doesn't stop until forty. This is when it peaks. I've had a few intellectual chats with people over sixty, they say sixty goes to another level again.

Lfes only good at forty, if you're doing something about making it better for those 20. Life can't be better at 20, if those at 40 aren't making sure it is.

I like the thinking re the next level at 60. Have seen changes in my parents, who are both incredibly intelligent, wise people, since they hit that mark.

Edit: and right now I am not doing anything for the 20 yo's... I am concentrating on the 11, 9, 6 and 4 year olds.

 

[Freofalcon]

If you remember your 20's, you didn't do it right.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

I was shit at 20, and I'll be shit at 40. I am just shit

 

[Duritz]

I was shit at 20, and I'll be shit at 40. I am just shit

Quality input.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Quality input.

At least I'm still as honest as they come.

 

[Yidaki]

#divvy

 

[Borderline]

I like the thinking re the next level at 60. Have seen changes in my parents, who are both incredibly intelligent, wise people, since they hit that mark.

Edit: and right now I am not doing anything for the 20 yo's... I am concentrating on the 11, 9, 6 and 4 year olds.

 

[TheMightyEagles]

I wouldn't say life was any better at 20...but I miss the unpredictability and excitement of that time. Like when you take new classes, meet new women & friends or go for a night out on the town. I can still do all those things, but I have now enough life experience to predict the outcome which detracts a lot from the experience.

Another thing I liked about that age is being equal to all your peers. With few exceptions no one has had enough time to achieve much at that age, so you are open to meeting all kinds of people. All you have to measure yourself against your peers is things like who is cooler, who gets laid more and who has experienced more in life. The older I get, the worse the dick measuring contests become....title, wealth, power, home size and so on. Which just makes it harder to connect with others (snobbery and jealously get in the way).

That said, my life is much more stable now. And if you are a generally sensible people, you get to reap increasing rewards with age.

Best film I ever watched on this topic is To Live (Ikiru), an old Japanese film which explores the topic from both sides. Highly recommended.

 

[lewigie]

So this is probably one of those things that has happened throughout history, but do people still take a shit load of drugs at age 40+ like they said they would when they're in their 20s? As in, "man.. I am going to keep doing drugs for my entire life. Nothing will stop me, this is the best."