Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[31550]

First off, what a bloody mess this is.

I especially don't like these cases where families of missing children are faceless, silent, change stories, or sit back. Doesn’t seem like normal behaviour.

As for the gun incident. Wonder if that excuse would work twice.
I dont want to enter that discussion but I feel it's highly unlikely that anyone would walk into a situation with anyone holding a gun.
From what I saw, Josie walked along the verandah specifically to talk to DM with gun in hand. Looked threatening TO ME

As with another famous case - there is only one real victim here. A little boy. But plenty of other people playing the victim card. There are plenty of advocates for these people, but no advocates for the victim.

As with another famous case, one group of people have been afforded extraordinary privileges with respect to their privacy. Their word has been taken as fact without question or substantiation.

As with another famous case, the public are left in the dark, and fed half-truths by authorities. And the media have been criticised for simply trying to do their job.

 

[Cataholic]

Josh and Jessica aren't married. They just had two children together.

Sorry, I'm missing your point here.

Josh has been renovating a house for several years to get Jessica and his boys away from the grandparent.

There's obviously been a lot of tension.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Wasn't it searched by divers in the first instance?

Yes, the dam was searched by divers in the first week after Gus's disappearance.

SA Deputy Police Commissioner Linda Williams said there was no fresh evidence that led to the call to drain the dam, but that it was being undertaken "out of an abundance of caution". That may or may not be true.

 

[tropicaltiger]

Just imagine you are innocent but you are constantly reading and hearing that there is more to this story than what is being revealed. Not only are they grieving they are dealing with pathetic paparazzi, online trolls and conspiracy theorists. I couldn’t fathom what they are going through especially if they are completely innocent. I can easily understand how someone could snap and do something stupid given the circumstances.

nope, why couldn't family members supply a couple more photo's or be a bit more open with the family structures before the media frenzy. seems they have shut up shop from day one.

 

[passball]

Yes, the dam was searched by divers in the first week after Gus's disappearance.

SA Deputy Police Commissioner Linda Williams said there was no fresh evidence that led to the call to drain the dam, but that it was being undertaken "out of an abundance of caution". That may or may not be true.

From what photos I have seen, probably from DM, thankyou, it didn't show the dam completely empty. That would do my head in.
I think of it like draining a sink, zero water, can not see any water, empty of water, etc.
I would be thinking what if he was missed in that last bit, and that would really really bug me.

Has the so called sandpit of a mound, the one that Gus was last seen at, been levelled? Havent read or seen any photos of that since early on.
I'm going by the narrative of Shannon on this

 

[Cataholic]

nope, why couldn't family members supply a couple more photo's or be a bit more open with the family structures before the media frenzy. seems they have shut up shop from day one.

Allegedly pre-existing family tensions, then a missing child, not a scrap of evidence of said child, and now a perception that one grandparent is quick to anger.

I guess they're not keen to share too much.

 

[MP_]

nope, why couldn't family members supply a couple more photo's or be a bit more open with the family structures before the media frenzy. seems they have shut up shop from day one.

I only ever remember seeing the pic of William Tyrell in a spider man suit and I can remember it vividly. If the police are adamant that there is nothing sinister in this case then why would you release numerous pictures which may only lead the public to misidentify others.

 

[Cataholic]

As with another famous case - there is only one real victim here. A little boy. But plenty of other people playing the victim card. There are plenty of advocates for these people, but no advocates for the victim.

As with another famous case, one group of people have been afforded extraordinary privileges with respect to their privacy. Their word has been taken as fact without question or substantiation.

As with another famous case, the public are left in the dark, and fed half-truths by authorities. And the media have been criticised for simply trying to do their job.

I still maintain, imo, that somewhere in all this lays a lie, or a half-truth, whether deliberate or by omission.

Find that and you likely determine the fate of poor Gus.

 

[MP_]

I still maintain, imo, that somewhere in all this lays a lie, or a half-truth, whether deliberate or by omission.

Find that and you likely determine the fate of poor Gus.

Yeah he could have been left unattended at lot longer than what is reported which would then have made the search area even bigger.

 

[Cataholic]

I only ever remember seeing the pic of William Tyrell in a spider man suit and I can remember it vividly. If the police are adamant that there is nothing sinister in this case then why would you release numerous pictures which may only lead the public to misidentify others.

The image of William in a Spiderman suit is so ingrained that I wonder if anyone would recognise him if they passed him on the street dressed in regular clothes?

Take away the Spiderman suit and, imo, I doubt many would recognise him.

 

[Frank Bunn]

The autism and trespassing topics have been a distraction.

I would like to know -

Why the family didn't quickly contact Gus's father Joshua to check whether he knew Gus's whereabouts.
Where have his mother Jessica and brother one year old Ronnie been since the disappearance?
Why the family took several days to release a photo of Gus.
Why was Gus allowed to play unsupervised in a pile of sand in an area that has some of the world's most toxic snakes and also unfenced dams?
When was the last time Gus was seen apart from immediate family members?

 

[passball]

I only ever remember seeing the pic of William Tyrell in a spider man suit and I can remember it vividly. If the police are adamant that there is nothing sinister in this case then why would you release numerous pictures which may only lead the public to misidentify others.

There were multiple photos of William.
The foster carer had a scrapbook of photos

 

[MP_]

The image of William in a Spiderman suit is so ingrained that I wonder if anyone would recognise him if they passed him on the street dressed in regular clothes?

Take away the Spiderman suit and, imo, I doubt many would recognise him.

And that’s why I think they have stuck to one image to ingrain that face. Madeline Mcann is another one where the same single image was constantly use, pretty sure Daniel Morcombe too

 

[MP_]

There were multiple photos of William.
The foster carer had a scrapbook of photos

The majority of news services still to this day use that one single image of him though.

 

[passball]

The majority of news services still to this day use that one single image of him though.

Well the Where's William campaign had the spiderman photo up.
Also was the last 'proof of life' photo IF you Ripley's believe it or not.
Touchy subject that one

 

[Cataholic]

Yeah he could have been left unattended at lot longer than what is reported which would then have made the search area even bigger.

Yep.

The family apparently said he was a shy boy who wasn't known to wander away.

On that basis, he either:

1) was forcibly taken - intruder?

If an intruder, how did they trespass, abduct and leave without a sound?

Does the family have dogs?

2) was enticed away - ie chased a roo?

This would contradict the family's description of his character.

3) met with misadventure

No evidence found as yet.

4) met with foul play.

No evidence found as yet.

I wonder if the police are eavesdropping on the increased tensions inside the homestead after the grandparent's confrontation with the media?

 

[Underarrest_]

Yeah he could have been left unattended at lot longer than what is reported which would then have made the search area even bigger.

Maybe Grandma thought Jess and other Grandparent took Gus with them.

 

[Wallace52]

Maybe Grandma thought Jess and other Grandparent took Gus with them.

Yeah, maybe. Maybe there was a miscommunication.

 

[Cataholic]

Maybe Grandma thought Jess and other Grandparent took Gus with them.

Wasn't it alleged by the grandparent that they saw Gus at 5pm, then discovered him missing at 5:30pm?

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Screams tragic accident to me.

 

[Cataholic]

Screams tragic accident to me.

Fair enough.

I'm leaning towards human intervention.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Fair enough.

I'm leaning towards human intervention.

Internal or external?

Are we even allowed to hypothesise?

 

[Underarrest_]

Wasn't it alleged by the grandparent that they saw Gus at 5pm, then discovered him missing at 5:30pm?

Yes it’s just in response to maybe Gus was missing longer than said.
If Grandma thought he’d gone with Jessica and other Grandparent then they came home with no Gus it could have been since they left to go out to work.

 

[Cataholic]

Internal or external?

Are we even allowed to hypothesise?

Yeah I'm not going to hypothesise other than to say I lean towards human intervention because absolutely zero evidence has been found, an indigenous tracker also found nothing, and birds of prey didn't detect a body.

Do we even know he was there?

It's difficult because there simply appears to be absolutely no evidence to correlate anything at all.

 

[Cataholic]

Yes it’s just in response to maybe Gus was missing longer than said.
If Grandma thought he’d gone with Jessica and other Grandparent then they came home with no Gus it could have been since they left to go out to work.

Can we assume Jess and the other grandparent went to work before 5pm, and if so, how did the homebound grandparent then see Gus at 5pm as alleged?