Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[Lady O]

I looked up the address a few days ago and it said it was connected to Telstra Sky Muster. Uses a white round satellite dish.

"The Sky Muster satellite service delivers the nbn network to homes and businesses in regional and remote Australia, via two state-of-the-art satellites. So, people across mainland Australia and Tasmania, and remote islands such as Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, Lord Howe Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands can now enjoy nbn powered plans through Sky Muster satellite providers.


As well as the roof satellite dish installed on the home or business, Sky Muster satellite connections also require an nbn supplied modem to be installed at the point where the cable from the satellite dish enters the premises. This device requires power to operate and can only be installed by an nbn approved installer.


When you contact your phone and internet provider to connect to the nbn network, they should arrange for an nbn approved installer to call you and organise a visit to your premises to connect you."

So can we debunk the theory that there was no phone, internet, tv etc, etc?

 

[Cataholic]

"The Sky Muster satellite service delivers the nbn network to homes and businesses in regional and remote Australia, via two state-of-the-art satellites. So, people across mainland Australia and Tasmania, and remote islands such as Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, Lord Howe Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands can now enjoy nbn powered plans through Sky Muster satellite providers.


As well as the roof satellite dish installed on the home or business, Sky Muster satellite connections also require an nbn supplied modem to be installed at the point where the cable from the satellite dish enters the premises. This device requires power to operate and can only be installed by an nbn approved installer.


When you contact your phone and internet provider to connect to the nbn network, they should arrange for an nbn approved installer to call you and organise a visit to your premises to connect you."

So can we debunk the theory that there was no phone, internet, tv etc, etc?

How were the police initially notified that there was a missing child?

 

[Frank Bunn]

How were the police initially notified that there was a missing child?

Sky Muster supports calls over VoIP.

It's not clear if Shannon was able to call Josie and Jess who were away from the property. They would need to have a satellite phone. Perhaps the call to the police came after they returned to the homestead at the end of their working day.

I still find it strange that they didn't call the Dad, Josh. To let him know that Gus was missing, but also to eliminate the possibility that he had come and picked him up.

 

[dc3]

Sky Muster supports calls over VoIP.

It's not clear if Shannon was able to call Josie and Jess who were away from the property. They would need to have a satellite phone. Perhaps the call to the police came after they returned to the homestead at the end of their working day.

I still find it strange that they didn't call the Dad, Josh. To let him know that Gus was missing, but also to eliminate the possibility that he had come and picked

Yep we will have to wait for the Netflix series

 

[Underarrest_]

I’d like to know if the family called anyone who lived closer to help look, before calling the police.

 

[Collie_wobbles]

There is a telstra tower located not far from the homestead, looking at map plan details it appears where the tower is was originally apart of Oak Park Station and sold off for the tower to be built.

Also a local has said that you can get pretty good mobile coverage in the area, but some parts are sketchy.

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[shorsky]

It's just someone reckoned there would be no phone, mobile or internet there. I was just looking at the tower, which looks like a Telstra voice, data, etc tower we have locally. Also there seems to be an aerial which might be for some kind of two way radio and a satellite dish on the roof. I'm not sure what the white round thing is on the top of the roof. Any ideas?

It’s quite reasonable imo to assume that there’s no ‘mainstream’ communications however most remote properties will be set up with their own towers / satellite / radio communications etc.

 

[winyhill]

"The Sky Muster satellite service delivers the nbn network to homes and businesses in regional and remote Australia, via two state-of-the-art satellites. So, people across mainland Australia and Tasmania, and remote islands such as Norfolk Island, Christmas Island, Lord Howe Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands can now enjoy nbn powered plans through Sky Muster satellite providers.


As well as the roof satellite dish installed on the home or business, Sky Muster satellite connections also require an nbn supplied modem to be installed at the point where the cable from the satellite dish enters the premises. This device requires power to operate and can only be installed by an nbn approved installer.


When you contact your phone and internet provider to connect to the nbn network, they should arrange for an nbn approved installer to call you and organise a visit to your premises to connect you."

So can we debunk the theory that there was no phone, internet, tv etc, etc?

I never saw that claim. And that old skymuster dish would not be used anymore. Those things were nearly as bad as dial-up and anyone who had no other choice left them as soon as Starlink became available. Other photos showed two Starlink dishes, one on the roof of each dwelling. So mobile phone coverage certainly with range of the Starlink router. Maybe 50 meters.
However, Wifi calling with Starlink does not give location. Which some posters were saying the Police should check.
The other tower is for a UHF base station and is very common on large properties.

 

[passball]

If Bob the quiz guy said that he and Fleur think that Gus is alive, where is somebody hiding him?
There are cottages in Burra that were related to Tiverton.
About 2hours 27mins from Oak Park Station.
That could be one suggestion, IF GUS IS ALIVE of course.
All depends if Bob genuinely believes this or, was drunk, wants to immerse himself in the case, it's a red herring, maybe purposely?
They asked for Bob to give his details so hopefully the police have spoken to him.

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[Lady O]

If Bob the quiz guy said that he and Fleur think that Gus is alive, where is somebody hiding him?
There are cottages in Burra that were related to Tiverton.
About 2hours 27mins from Oak Park Station.
That could be one suggestion, IF GUS IS ALIVE of course.
All depends if Bob genuinely believes this or, was drunk, wants to immerse himself in the case, it's a red herring, maybe purposely?
They asked for Bob to give his details so hopefully the police have spoken to him.

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I thought the Police also said he could be alive when they were searching the mine sites recently. I couldn't understand how they could think a 4yo would survive down a mine for 2 months without food or water. Maybe they were thinking he had been taken, but if so why would they be looking down mine shafts for him?

Edit: Do people use abandoned mine shafts for housing like they do at Coober Pedy??

 

[KurtNeverDied]

I thought the Police also said he could be alive when they were searching the mine sites recently. I couldn't understand how they could think a 4yo would survive down a mine for 2 months without food or water. Maybe they were thinking he had been taken, but if so why would they be looking down mine shafts for him?

Edit: Do people use abandoned mine shafts for housing like they do at Coober Pedy??

I guess it's not totally far fetched someone deluded took him for themselves, someone perhaps knowing he wasn't looked after well (not saying he wasn't), feeling more justified in taking him. Especially with zero evidence on what happened. Though I feel the family wouldn't be seemingly sitting back if this was the case. It feels to me like they know what happened and just want it to go away. All in my opinion.

 

[Wallace52]

I thought the Police also said he could be alive when they were searching the mine sites recently. I couldn't understand how they could think a 4yo would survive down a mine for 2 months without food or water. Maybe they were thinking he had been taken, but if so why would they be looking down mine shafts for him?

Edit: Do people use abandoned mine shafts for housing like they do at Coober Pedy??

I think the cops were looking for evidence. Like shoes, hat, etc that someone could have chucked away after maybe abducting or murdering him.

IMO

I don’t think they were expecting to find a live child living in a mine shaft. IMO

 

[Frank Bunn]

I totally did a Josie this morning. An old bloke has a habit of sending his dog onto my land as they walk past. I went out out and shouted at him at full blast. "Oi! Get your dog off my property. Don't keep sending him on." I must have been pretty loud because the neighbour's dog started barking lol.

 

[Lady O]

I totally did a Josie this morning. An old bloke has a habit of sending his dog onto my land as they walk past. I went out out and shouted at him at full blast. "Oi! Get your dog off my property. Don't keep sending him on." I must have been pretty loud because the neighbour's dog started barking lol.

Did you get the shotty out? It works!!

 

[Jim Cricket]

Did you get the shotty out? It works!!

A neighbour's pitbull jumped my metre high fences x2 and attacked one of my very valuable dogs one day. These neighbours had gone for a walk with the dog off leash. I chased the dog away and went out the front and threatened to shoot the dog if it ever came onto my property again. No apology by the way. I didn't mean it, don't even own a gun, but if I owned one it might have been given a shake in the neighbour's direction that day but I very much doubt it. It was stressful seeing the dog being attacked especially in the safety of our yard.

If news crews came onto my property after being warned not to or didn't leave when asked I'd be pretty darn threatening I think, especially when under this kind of stress. Waving a shotty in their direction is the wrong thing to do but I see why it can happen. To me it's not a big deal, just another case of onlookers and media making a mountain out of a mole hill. People have a right to privacy regardless of what the nosey general public thinks.

 

[31550]

Waving a shotty in their direction is the wrong thing to do but I see why it can happen. To me it's not a big deal,

This is the crux of the philosophy of firearm legislation reform. It's designed to ensure that firearms are only owned and handled by people who can demonstrate a need, and can be trusted to use them safely and properly.

IMO if you are the type of person who might (even in exceptional circumstances) use a firearm for an unauthorised purpose, then you should not be allowed to own one.

 

[Jim Cricket]

This is the crux of the philosophy of firearm legislation reform. It's designed to ensure that firearms are only owned and handled by people who can demonstrate a need, and can be trusted to use them safely and properly.

IMO if you are the type of person who might (even in exceptional circumstances) use a firearm for an unauthorised purpose, then you should not be allowed to own one.

Technically yes but in reality waving a shotgun causes no harm. The reporter didn't seem too threatened otherwise she'd have left quick smart.

 

[31550]

Technically yes but in reality waving a shotgun causes no harm. The reporter didn't seem too threatened otherwise she'd have left quick smart.

That's how 'accidents' happen though. If the snake story is true there is a chance the shotgun was loaded. If the snake story is false it's clearly improper use. Not sure that shotguns should be so accessible with young children in the house.

 

[Underarrest_]

That's how 'accidents' happen though. If the snake story is true there is a chance the shotgun was loaded. If the snake story is false it's clearly improper use. Not sure that shotguns should be so accessible with young children in the house.

Agree, just to add, not only accidents but escalation in situations, very fast.

 

[Jim Cricket]

That's how 'accidents' happen though. If the snake story is true there is a chance the shotgun was loaded. If the snake story is false it's clearly improper use. Not sure that shotguns should be so accessible with young children in the house.

But this is the crux of the philosophy. IF this happened or IF that happened or IF that didn't happen. It didn't. Yeah I get it - if it did happen, what then? Then go for it. IF the shotgun accidently went off there'd be a hole in the air because that's where it was pointed. It wasn't pointed at the reporter or even the child in the house.

In this case the reporter was asked to leave even before the shotgun appeared in the video. Who knows how many times. It then took four 'get out's' for the reporter to leave. I know what I'd do - and I have been threatened with a shotgun - if I thought the threat was real. I didn't stand there trying to explain myself or walk away slowly.

 

[Underarrest_]

Know a man waiting for his wife and young child to come home one night, loaded gun sitting across his lap. He didn’t need to point the gun to put the fear of life into the wife and child.
Makes no sense to have a gun on you when you approach someone or they approach you unless you want to bring fear to them. IMO.

 

[Jim Cricket]

Know a man waiting for his wife and young child to come home one night, loaded gun sitting across his lap. He didn’t need to point the gun to put the fear of life into the wife and child.
Makes no sense to have a gun on you when you approach someone or they approach you unless you want to bring fear to them. IMO.

Unless you've just used it to shoot a snake or were about to shoot a snake, although maybe it wasn't used for that, according to the conspiracists. Another IF. Too many IFs for me.

 

[KurtNeverDied]

The only reason the police defended Josie was to keep the family in the good books.
The reporter was leaving. Even if she wasn't Josie could have asked the police that where there do get her to leave it arrest her
Josie chose the reckless option. Who knows if it was any other day she could of gone completely off her rocker and actually aim and shoot. Tense situations and guns don't mix. Plus you don't kill a snake with a gun close to home. You just need a shovel.

 

[Underarrest_]

Unless you've just used it to shoot a snake or were about to shoot a snake, although maybe it wasn't used for that, according to the conspiracists. Another IF. Too many IFs for me.

I’m sure there’s many valid reasons to have a gun and even fire one on a property but it’s easy to put it away.
Jonica (although I believe shouldn’t be pestering the Murrays) wasn’t a threat to them.

 

[winyhill]

I’m sure there’s many valid reasons to have a gun and even fire one on a property but it’s easy to put it away.
Jonica (although I believe shouldn’t be pestering the Murrays) wasn’t a threat to them.

And she was not a threat to them.