Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[Curious Clues]

Both Murray and Lamonts should have been interviewed separately.
Both Gus's family, well as far as we know

Yes I agree. Let’s hope the detectives on this case aren’t following in the pitiful footsteps of Jubelin.

 

[CodyRose]

Did you find the cousin?

not sure

 

[CodyRose]

The Lamont family have indicated they will not give up hope — even as the festive season deepens the ache of his absence. The family’s only wish is for Gus to come home.

Does that suggest the Lamont family believe Gus was abducted?

Christmas without Gus as investigation continues into missing outback boy

The four-year-old has not been seen since September 27.

7news.com.au

If police are entertaining this option, it would make sense IMO, to look at relatives/friends/aquaintances/employees/visitors/locals who had good skills racing fast on vehicles like dirt bikes, or quad bikes through similar terrain to Oak Park. I read that an indigenous tracker suggested a small child could be lifted up from beneath their arms, and popped on a moving bike. In this scenario, no ongoing footprints would be available, just maybe one large one (the rider's), used to balance the bike momentarily, while sweeping up a small child. These tracks blow away easily as they move fast across terrain.

I think the police have to look at and test other scenarios, if they have any budget money left for this case. Something happened to Gus ... I don't know what it is!

 

[CodyRose]

If police are entertaining this option, it would make sense IMO, to look at relatives/friends/aquaintances/employees/visitors/locals who had good skills racing fast on vehicles like dirt bikes, or quad bikes through similar terrain to Oak Park. I read that an indigenous tracker suggested a small child could be lifted up from beneath their arms, and popped on a moving bike. In this scenario, no ongoing footprints would be available, just maybe one large one (the rider's), used to balance the bike momentarily, while sweeping up a small child. These tracks blow away easily as they move fast across terrain.

I think the police have to look at and test other scenarios, if they have any budget money left for this case. Something happened to Gus ... I don't know what it is!

Hi just wondering - is this forum/thread no longer active/closed?

 

[Percel]

Hi just wondering - is this forum/thread no longer active/closed?

You posted so it’s all clear

 

[the_navyblue]

We are getting off topic.
But my view is that if you need a firearm for a specific purpose and you can demonstrate are a fit and proper person, then you should be allowed to own an appropriate registered firearm and an appropriate amount of ammo for that purpose, and for that purpose only.
My view is that 'sporting shooters' should only be allowed to own a limited number of suitable firearms and ammo. They should only carry or use one at a time unless there is a specific event which needs multiple firearms to be used.
My view is that 'collectors' should only be allowed to collect firearms which have been disabled, and should never have ammunition, unless they have a specific licence and qualifications and store these firearms under very strict conditions at specific locations only, and any movement or use of such firearms should be pre approved in writing by authorities.
All firearm owners should be subject to random and regular inspections to ensure legislation is being complied with. Any breach should result in immediate cancellation of licence and confiscation of firearms.
Any purchase of ammunition must be only by a person who holds an appropriate licence. Quantities of ammo should be restricted to reasonable amounts at any one time. All ammunition must be accounted for. Regular returns and reports of ammunition used must be provided. Excessive purchases or use should also lead to licence cancellation and firearm confiscation.
Regular interviews of licences should be conducted. Anyone who cannot demonstrate they are still a fit and proper owner, and still have a genuine purpose should have their licence revoked, and firearms confiscated.

Absolutely. We have to go back decades and ask why federal/state governments have slept on this since the Port Arthur massacre and since the rise and rise of terrorism across the world in urban settings.

From memory only minority parties like the Australian Democrats then and the Greens after them have been the ones asking questions about the need for and checks on gun ownership. The Lindt Cafe seige and massacre should have been the tipping point but no party in power then and since then has had the commitment to do what is needed.

 

[the_navyblue]

If police are entertaining this option, it would make sense IMO, to look at relatives/friends/aquaintances/employees/visitors/locals who had good skills racing fast on vehicles like dirt bikes, or quad bikes through similar terrain to Oak Park. I read that an indigenous tracker suggested a small child could be lifted up from beneath their arms, and popped on a moving bike. In this scenario, no ongoing footprints would be available, just maybe one large one (the rider's), used to balance the bike momentarily, while sweeping up a small child. These tracks blow away easily as they move fast across terrain.

I think the police have to look at and test other scenarios, if they have any budget money left for this case. Something happened to Gus ... I don't know what it is!

The bike theory and non family on them moving through the property seems the only one that makes sense now if the family has not had anything to do with poor Gus.

 

[Curious Clues]

Fresh update in search for Gus after police return to property

Gus Lamont was last seen by his grandmother playing on a mound of dirt at the sprawling sheep station in outback South Australia on September 27.

www.perthnow.com.au

 

[31550]

Fresh update in search for Gus after police return to property

Gus Lamont was last seen by his grandmother playing on a mound of dirt at the sprawling sheep station in outback South Australia on September 27.

www.perthnow.com.au

Detectives last week took further statements from the family.

That's interesting. Why was there a need for 'further' statements, three months after the event?

 

[Cataholic]

Detectives last week took further statements from the family.

That's interesting. Why was there a need for 'further' statements, three months after the event?

Maybe there's a discrepancy.

 

[dc3]

Maybe there's a discrepancy.

Yes or theres something their not letting on

 

[CodyRose]

Maybe there's a discrepancy.

Maybe they have received anonymous information

 

[Leon Higgins]

Absolutely. We have to go back decades and ask why federal/state governments have slept on this since the Port Arthur massacre and since the rise and rise of terrorism across the world in urban settings.

From memory only minority parties like the Australian Democrats then and the Greens after them have been the ones asking questions about the need for and checks on gun ownership. The Lindt Cafe seige and massacre should have been the tipping point but no party in power then and since then has had the commitment to do what is needed.

You have answered your own question. People who own guns are usually key coalition or one nation supporters.

People mobilise against their local members by joining the party and getting rid of them if they bring in more gun control.
Recently we saw the deputy leader of the national party, the member for Tamworth, vote against the motions brought following the Bondi massacre. There are large numbers of shooters in his electorate.

 

[31550]

You have answered your own question. People who own guns are usually key coalition or one nation supporters.

People mobilise against their local members by joining the party and getting rid of them if they bring in more gun control.
Recently we saw the deputy leader of the national party, the member for Tamworth, vote against the motions brought following the Bondi massacre. There are large numbers of shooters in his electorate.

It is going to be difficult to tighten exiting legislation unless there are further incidents such as Bondi.
But our legislation is actually fairly tight, by world standards anyway.
The issue is in how it is administered and enforced.
I don't believe there is sufficient ongoing monitoring of firearms, licensees, or ammunition purchases and flows.
Generally speaking, authorities DO have the right to make periodic checks on owners and clubs and collectors to ensure compliance. But this takes manpower and resources, which are stretched anyway. So it becomes a matter of priorities and budgets, which puts it back in the hands of the political masters.
I really don't know what resources would actually be required to carry out say, an annual audit of every registered firearm to ensure compliance. But this is what we need to do IMO.

 

[Leon Higgins]

It is going to be difficult to tighten exiting legislation unless there are further incidents such as Bondi.
But our legislation is actually fairly tight, by world standards anyway.
The issue is in how it is administered and enforced.
I don't believe there is sufficient ongoing monitoring of firearms, licensees, or ammunition purchases and flows.
Generally speaking, authorities DO have the right to make periodic checks on owners and clubs and collectors to ensure compliance. But this takes manpower and resources, which are stretched anyway. So it becomes a matter of priorities and budgets, which puts it back in the hands of the political masters.
I really don't know what resources would actually be required to carry out say, an annual audit of every registered firearm to ensure compliance. But this is what we need to do IMO.

I agree with you. There is a tendency to bring in new laws rather than enforce the ones we already have.

It makes the politicians look like they are doing something when they bring in new laws. Have royal commissions etc. In reality these laws are knee jerk reactions, rushed and poorly thought out.

I don’t want to get to far off topic but having a royal commission into ‘anti semitism’ in isolation of world events is ridiculous. Children being blown up in Gaza in the tens of thousands has had a profound effect on community harmony in Australia.

But we are ‘not allowed’ to talk about it, protest it without being labelled anti-semites or be arrested. These are bad laws. There are plenty of Jewish people who are equally appalled by what’s happened in Israel as well. Many of them blame Netanyahu for Bondi.

 

[Wallace52]

You have answered your own question. People who own guns are usually key coalition or one nation supporters.

People mobilise against their local members by joining the party and getting rid of them if they bring in more gun control.
Recently we saw the deputy leader of the national party, the member for Tamworth, vote against the motions brought following the Bondi massacre. There are large numbers of shooters in his electorate.

People who own guns are usually key coalition or one nation supporters.

In Queensland those people are also Katter Australia Party supporters. KAP is massive in North Qld.