Cars & Transportation .

[Swanny36]

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[rayven]

You show me the stats for p platers dying from burnouts and i'll show you the stats of old people failing to give way or not knowing the road rules.

I bet mine are bigger....way way bigger

 

[perthblue]

Speed limits are often too slow and need revising.

 

[rofltown]

this guy has his license 10 minutes and thinks he's an expert!

 

[DerpWerls]

You show me the stats for p platers dying from burnouts and i'll show you the stats of old people failing to give way or not knowing the road rules.

I bet mine are bigger....way way bigger

Well there is a much greater number of elderly people driving than P platers which only lasts for a 2 or 3 yr period.

Also the elderly don't drive badly on purpose. Speeding and driving aggressively is unneccessary and dangerous no matter your age or driving experience.

 

[rayven]

Speed limits are often too slow and need revising.

Goverments don't have the money to maintain roads in a fashion that higher speed limits will actualy reduce crashes and improve flow...

 

[rocker_oz33]

l caught speeding the other night chistmas week @ 5 am ok l was in the wroung and let off with a warning.still no fine in 5 plus years woo hoo.

ok why were the cop out that early? not many cars on the road at that time.l was thinking if l cant drive in a staight line at 10/20k's over l should not be driving.

 

[woopedazz]

A policeman told me speeding is fine as long as you are a good driver.

 

[Natho]

It beats me how many people don't know what to do at a roundabout..

 

[rocker_oz33]

is it a law or just one of those unwritten one's?

that a parked car on your side of the road in your lane.you must/should stop give way if a car driving in the other towards you?

 

[Jobe Watson]

I'm a P plater, and I usually take off fast from traffic lights and dip over the speed limit if I'm on a quiet stretch of freeway. Would never try drifting on an open road (because I'd probably end up driving myself into a pole) or go too fast through residential areas though. You just never know what could happen.

 

[radiojake]

I don't own a car here in Melbourne but over Christmas I was in Brisbane and borrowed my mum's car -

I couldn't believe how many people on the Bruce Hwy felt it was appropriate to tailgate and sit on my (and each other's) ass at 90 km/h - And then I witnessed the Brisbane/Gold Coast highway! Holy Cow! I do not know how a 4-5 lane highway can be so erratic and dangerous!

Speeding per se isn't the problem, but aggressive, reckless driving and tailgating certainly is.

(I am not saying this problem is confined to Brisbane, but I rarely ever driver around Melbourne (and other cities) outer suburbs, so I do not see it)


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As for Policeman saying speeding is ok if one is a good driver, I wouldn't listen to them - I once had a policeman explain to me as I was handcuffed in the back seat of their car without a seat belt on (and without the ability to put my seat belt on) that the driver was 'a good driver' and I needn't worry about not having the belt on, even though I asked them to put it on.

Not that I drive around without a seat belt on, but if I were to be caught without one while driving, I doubt they would consider this true story an adequate excuse [/end random tangent]

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I like an appropriated George Orwell quote that I think nicely summarises the relationship between cars and bicycles on the road -

"Two wheels good; Four wheels bad"!

 

[radiojake]

I just got my P's and don't understand why people speed or do burnouts etc.

Oh, and in response to the OP - The answer is:

Because they are morons

 

[Fevola99]

I never go under the speed limit I always go as fast as I can because it's more fun that way. I've hit a few other cars and ran over some people when I go on the footpath to get around cars but they could have got out of the way so it's their fault. They can't report me because I'm gone before they know what happened. But I don't even look at the speed limit I just get in and hold down the X button.

 

[HurlsMeister18]

Having a car with bald tyres is just as dangerous as speeding and doing burnouts.

What the hell is your family and friends doing letting you drive a car with bald tyres when you just got your P's ?

 

[CAS79]

I tend to find myself going over the limit on straight roads in the middle of no where that have speed limits of 80 for no reason.

Conversely I find myself under when i think the corners require more caution.

My biggest problem is setting my own limits, not because I think it's fun.

 

[Simple Jack]

I just got my P's and don't understand why people speed or do burnouts etc. I get the fun factor of it but it just seems to me that the dangers of doing it (killing innocent family's, killing your mates) cancel out the fun pretty easily.

I decided to bring the topic up because last night I was driving home in the rain, went through a round about and the car fish tailed as I accelerated out of it. Turns out the car I was driving is in desperate need of a new set of tires. So it made me think why people think this is fun.

Do you speed when driving? and if so how often, how far over the speed limit and why?

Half the problem is the emphasis has been on reducing speeding so long that people just naturally equate speed limit with 'safe'.

You can bet your life that doing 110 in a 100 zone is far safer than doing 50 in a 60 zone but driving dangerously.

Speed isn't the enemy, lack of ability and good judgement (lack of which often leads to excessive speeding which is the kind that can be dangerous) is.

When you start learning how to fly, after you learn how to fly straight and level, climb, descend and turn, the very next lesson is stalling.

Stalled is a condition you don't want to be in (normally) and is dangerous (read fatal) if the correct recovery isn't initiated, so they teach you how. You learn the circumstances leading to it, the feel of it and how to get out of it.

The same thing doesn't happen with driver training, you are never trained to do anything other than drive in normal circumstances where nothing goes wrong.

In one of the Scandinavian countries (forget which) the mandatory licence training includes proper driver training and time on a skid pan so if they get into abormal situations they know how to salvage the situation.

Proper mandatory driver training for everyone who wants to get a licence would reduce the road toll a hell of a lot more than prosecuting everyone doing 63 in a 60 zone.

But I guess it wouldn't make the govt any money, in fact it would probably cost some.

Stuff that idea.

Edit: I occasionally speed, mostly doing 60ish in an unsigned 50 zone in the middle of the night in an industrial complex.

Or maybe doing 70 on a road which used to be 70 which they changed to 60 (along with every other car I might add) where I know there are no fixed cameras when I don't see any cars parked on the side of the road.

 

[theboxmike]

Theres sensible speeding and stupid speeding.

The first is fine the other however is not.

 

[BomberFletch31]

is it a law or just one of those unwritten one's?

that a parked car on your side of the road in your lane.you must/should stop give way if a car driving in the other towards you?

Yes, you have to give way. Think of it as overtaking on the wrong side of the road when there's only one lane each way. You don't do it when there's oncoming traffic, you let the oncoming traffic through first, then you go around the parked car. Simple, really.

Half the problem is the emphasis has been on reducing speeding so long that people just naturally equate speed limit with 'safe'.


Edit: I occasionally speed, mostly doing 60ish in an unsigned 50 zone in the middle of the night in an industrial complex.


Or maybe doing 70 on a road which used to be 70 which they changed to 60 (along with every other car I might add) where I know there are no fixed cameras when I don't see any cars parked on the side of the road.

You can bet your life that doing 110 in a 100 zone is far safer than doing 50 in a 60 zone but driving dangerously.


Speed isn't the enemy, lack of ability and good judgement (lack of which often leads to excessive speeding which is the kind that can be dangerous) is.


When you start learning how to fly, after you learn how to fly straight and level, climb, descend and turn, the very next lesson is stalling.

Stalled is a condition you don't want to be in (normally) and is dangerous (read fatal) if the correct recovery isn't initiated, so they teach you how. You learn the circumstances leading to it, the feel of it and how to get out of it.


The same thing doesn't happen with driver training, you are never trained to do anything other than drive in normal circumstances where nothing goes wrong.


In one of the Scandinavian countries (forget which) the mandatory licence training includes proper driver training and time on a skid pan so if they get into abormal situations they know how to salvage the situation.

Proper mandatory driver training for everyone who wants to get a licence would reduce the road toll a hell of a lot more than prosecuting everyone doing 63 in a 60 zone.

There has been far too much emphasis on speed, and less on actually driving sensibly, and even less on driver training. I guess the government only want sheep that will follow the speed limit no matter what, never mind the fact that some speed limits are ridiculously slow. Never mind the fact that speeding is not necessarily dangerous driving. Drivers need to exercise discretion as to what is a safe speed to drive at - sometimes it's lower than the speed limit, sometimes there is such a thing as safe speeding.

I'm also a proponent of advanced driver training for everyone that wants to get their licence. Driver 'training' in this country is woefully inadequate.

 

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

Maybe look at it this way

Speed and act like a hoon driver all you want.

Because until when one of your close family members or friends dies or is severly injured , maybe for life , due to the selfish acts of one of these people and their selfish attitudes on the road to others , you will not get it.

Some people refuse to acknowledge the outcome of their immature driving , until it hits home.

 

[hayes]

I speed all the time. I don't drift around corners and stuff like that but the speed limits are ridiculous and as long as I've got my eyes on the road I'll be fine as well as everyone else around me. It's people who are distracted by changing the CD or text messaging that are the real problem out there.

 

[rhinowce]

I sat between 120 and 140 km/h from yass to wagga today and not a single **** was given, the hume hwy is a great a piece of road and a 110 limit is way too low..

 

[Shellz]

I speed all the time. I don't drift around corners and stuff like that but the speed limits are ridiculous and as long as I've got my eyes on the road I'll be fine as well as everyone else around me. It's people who are distracted by changing the CD or text messaging that are the real problem out there.

Well aren't you just a cocky shithead.

Speed injures and kills people. Get it through your head.

 

[Falchoon]

A policeman told me speeding is fine as long as you are a good driver.

nobody thinks of themselves as bad drivers

 

[Scotland]

Well aren't you just a cocky shithead.

Speed injures and kills people. Get it through your head.

Speed doesn't kill, stopping suddenly does.

Zee Germans manage to scoot along at 200 km/h without incident, yet we have it rammed down our throats that doing 115 on the open road or 65 in a 60 zone make us instantly dangerous.