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I would make an excellent Mum! I know I would.. all my friends think so as well. My mum just doesnt like the idea that im so young! im sure if i was a little bit older and married she wouldnt have cared...
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Originally posted by lioness22
Yeah even if you think you're ready for it there's lots of doubt afterwards isn't there. I mean in my case I didn't really have a choice, my baby girl was more than likely not going to survive...... I mean I DID have a choice but why prolong the inevitable. Still doesn't make it any easier to deal with, especially when others sit round with their kids and say "well I didn't do it and look at MY baby" and stuff, which I believe is unfair. I didn't have anyone forcing me into it which I am grateful for, and if I'd been told she'd be happy and healthy I would have kept her for sure.
Oh and Spidey thanks for letting us know how your friend is going, I've been wondering.
Yeh! its horrible. I think I have cried every night for a month.. I made the wrong decision and there isnt anything I can do about it now. I had counceling but it didnt really help because most of it i didnt listen to. If I had of actualy told her how i felt they wouldnt have let me do it.... then I would have lost my mum. I wish it had of been my decision though. I feel so much anger towards my mum now!
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Never, in modern times (except by a small group of physicians in Hitler’s Germany and by Stalin in Russia) has a price tag of economic or social use-fullness been placed on an individual human life as the price of its continued existence.
Never, in modern times (except by physicians in Hitler’s Germany) has a certain physical perfection been required as a condition necessary for the continuation of that life.
Never (since the law of paterfamilias in ancient Rome) has a major nation granted to a father or mother total dominion over the life or death of their child.
Never, in modern times, has the state granted to one citizen the absolute legal right to have another killed in order to solve their own personal, social or economic problem.
The way I see it, revisiting the above scenarios would be taking a huge step towards the continued degredation of society as we know it.
Never, in modern times (except by physicians in Hitler’s Germany) has a certain physical perfection been required as a condition necessary for the continuation of that life.
Never (since the law of paterfamilias in ancient Rome) has a major nation granted to a father or mother total dominion over the life or death of their child.
Never, in modern times, has the state granted to one citizen the absolute legal right to have another killed in order to solve their own personal, social or economic problem.
The way I see it, revisiting the above scenarios would be taking a huge step towards the continued degredation of society as we know it.
And this is the exact reason why abortion should not be so readily available.
Being used as contraception rather than for termination of pregnancy where the continuation of pregnancy poses life threatening situations to child or mother or both.
If people can't spell contraception, maybe they can spell abstinence - it has less letters in it.
If you think you are mature enough to be sexually active, then you need to be mature enough to accept any and all consequences of that activity. Parent's booking kids in for abortions? gawd help us all if that is what the world is coming to.
I had my child at 21, and that was still too young.
Maybe it is time to reintroduce chastity belts.
Being used as contraception rather than for termination of pregnancy where the continuation of pregnancy poses life threatening situations to child or mother or both.
If people can't spell contraception, maybe they can spell abstinence - it has less letters in it.
If you think you are mature enough to be sexually active, then you need to be mature enough to accept any and all consequences of that activity. Parent's booking kids in for abortions? gawd help us all if that is what the world is coming to.
I had my child at 21, and that was still too young.
Maybe it is time to reintroduce chastity belts.
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I'm really keen on what the parents of two girls in WA did recently. They couldn't stop their daughters running amok so they chained them to their beds.
I believe strongly that women should have the option of abortion, but it should not be so easily obtainable to be used as a form of contraception. No woman should be forced to have a child she does not want, but the responsibilty to stopping the pregnancy occuring in the first place is up to her.
It astounds me how many young girls today end up pregnant or in an abortion clinic simply because they were either too ignorant or too lazy to use contraception. There are so many forms of contraception available there is no excuse for it.
Abortion should always been legal and be available though, when it isn't you have the backyard butchers and that is even worse.
It astounds me how many young girls today end up pregnant or in an abortion clinic simply because they were either too ignorant or too lazy to use contraception. There are so many forms of contraception available there is no excuse for it.
Abortion should always been legal and be available though, when it isn't you have the backyard butchers and that is even worse.
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I didn't realise, sorry, carry on.
Regardless of whether you 'keeness' is on the thought of girls tied to a bed, or the it is on the sentiment behind that particular act, at least the parents were doing something - but probably highly illegal, and too little too late by the sounds of it.
and what do you mean by "not so readily available"?
only to rape victims? only to victims of incest?
where is the line drawn?
And that last remark was a kinda stupid one
I am confused as to how your mum 'forced' you to have an abortion. According to your profile you are 20 years old. That makes you an adult and your mother no longer has control over what you can and cannot do!
Bee you get no arguments from me. The operative word in your first sentence being 'women', not 'girls', 'females', 'teenagers' etc etc. Mature enough to do that act, mature enough to live with the consequences. Those consequences may include abortion, as 'life threatening' situations are just not physical, they are emotional/psychological, a new child threatening the well being of an existing child etc etc etc. The boundaries are ever expanding and contracting depending on the individual situation. But to sit here and read someone hating their mum for making them have an abortion. Sheez.....was it your mum's fault you got pregnant in the first place? Take responsability. And that doesn't automatically mean having the baby. It's called saying no, or at the very least using common sense and contraception.
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I dont hate my mum. I just feel angry and hurt that she made me do it! and i was using contraception. so really it wasnt my fault either. PLUS I actualy really wanted the baby.. Its not like i found out i was pregnant and decided i didnt want it...
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she told me if I didnt she wanted nothing more to do with me.
To me family is everything without my family I would have noone. I wouldnt be able to cope without them. If I lost my mum that would mean I would lose my dad and grandparents who help me out a lot! i wasnt going to risk that!
Becca, that makes it even more confusing. If you wanted the baby, then it should have been your decision to go through with the pregnancy. If you were 14 years old I could understand why your mum forced you into an abortion. But you are 20, you are an adult. Your mum has no say in it. And also did the baby's father have any say in the decision?
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have you people who are bagging me ever been in this situation? seriously... I knew as soon as i posted what I did that i shouldnt have done it.
you can have your opinions i dont mind. But I know that it wasnt my fault.. I was prepared to have that baby, But had to go through with the termination regardless! maybe family isnt as important to you as it is to me.. but what would I have done if i had of kept the baby lost my mum and my bf decided he couldnt handle it anymore? Id have NOONE. that is how she forced me into doing it! Yeah I know im 20 I can make my own decisions and I DID!! BUT I made that decision by being pushed into it! I didnt make it myself. If It had of been all my idea to do it without the influence of anyone else then sure i would have no reason to feel guilty and horrible and regret my decision!!
so please just leave me alone
you can have your opinions i dont mind. But I know that it wasnt my fault.. I was prepared to have that baby, But had to go through with the termination regardless! maybe family isnt as important to you as it is to me.. but what would I have done if i had of kept the baby lost my mum and my bf decided he couldnt handle it anymore? Id have NOONE. that is how she forced me into doing it! Yeah I know im 20 I can make my own decisions and I DID!! BUT I made that decision by being pushed into it! I didnt make it myself. If It had of been all my idea to do it without the influence of anyone else then sure i would have no reason to feel guilty and horrible and regret my decision!!
so please just leave me alone
hey! dont blame me when i point out that you said something stupid.
Although i am pretty sure that you are told that all the time anyway.
And you didnt answer my question: where do you draw the line.
Stop whinging about something, and try to come up with a constructive solution.
Stupid? Hey it could be a viable solution to the spiralling cost of welfare payments to young single mothers - and don't for one second think today's pollies haven't had the exact same thought cross their minds! It may not (and is not) a realistic viable solution, but the sentiment behind it, ie parents taking an active role in preventing it in the first place is not such a bad notion.
The line, as I ALREADY SAID, expands and contracts with each individual situataion. It does not however have to have the ever expanding elascticity that it currently experiencing where 'theraputic abortion' constitutes the tears and tirades of a young woman who thinks her b/f will leave her, she can't cope because she hadn't planned this, the dad won't pay child support and will quit his job to avoid it, etc etc etc. The current excuses are endless and the whole situation could have readily been avoided with ppl taking just a smidgen of thought and responsibility before they got pregnant in the first place.
p.s, you wanna have a go at me, do it the right way, cheap shots are just that, cheap, and show more about you than they do about me.
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She didn't force you.
You made the CHOICE to have the abortion, because your family is important to you and you didn't want your mom to remove herself from your life, which is fair enough but..
It was your choice to have the abortion and your choice to keep your mom in your life, YOU MADE THE DECISION, not your mom, and if you need your mom to make decisions for you (i.e you were pushed into it), then clearly you are not ready to become a mother yourself.
Simple.
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I actually take strong offense to this i know i will make an excellent parent when the time comes and noone on here has the right to say otherwise!
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You are airing your history on a PUBLIC forum, what did you expect?
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Do your friends think so too?
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Have you ever been in that situation? it scared the hell out of me I wasnt thinking straight no she didnt actualy FORCE me too but she influenced my decision! it wasnt my decision really it was what she wanted! im not even going to bother arguing because just thinking about it makes me upset.
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No, because I'd never get myself into that situation in the first place, and IF i ever did, which I doubt, I wouldn't be telling the whole world about it.
I practically had to raise my two brothers, plus myself, due to having a complete ****wit for a mother, my dad was rarely around because he was busy putting a roof over our head. So I know a little bit about raising kids.
Think yourself lucky that your mom is looking out for you, and even though it probably hurts now and always will, eventually you'll see that what she "influenced" you to do was probably the right thing to do in the end.