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Have been asking this around the warehouse lately with mixed answers.

Did Bon Scott's death make ACDC as big as they are? If the death never occured...Would they be known as the legends they are today...Did Bon's Death elevate the band??

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If Back In Black was no good they'd probably have been just another band, from a global perspective. It assisted their later elevation to the mainstream. Otherwise they may have simply plugged on like a Deep Purple. The highlights in the Brian Johnson era are sprinkled a fair way apart for mine.

Bon's death at the time wasn't big news in a general sense like Hendrix or Elvis. So no, I don't think his death elevated the band. Rather, it became part of the legend.
 

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They exploded because of Back In Black. The goal was always to make it big in America and that album did that for them.
 
Some rock historians and Bon Scott authors have speculated that AC/DC (the Youngs + Mutt Lange) considered replacing Bon as singer with someone that had more American appeal. Someone like Brian. Remembering this is prior to Australian culture taking off in the USA thanks to Crocodile Dundee. I don't think it is that far fetched. They had already parted ways with Aussies Mark Evans and soon to do so with Phil Rudd, replacing both with Englishmen. Coincidence? Most likely.

Anyway yeah I reckon the move to Brian allowed the band to break America. Impossible to say if the same could have happened with Bon. Back in Black is also the best comeback from tragedy album made, which helped with it's success. Everyone likes a comeback story.

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Some rock historians and Bon Scott authors have speculated that AC/DC (the Youngs + Mutt Lange) considered replacing Bon as singer with someone that had more American appeal. Someone like Brian. Remembering this is prior to Australian culture taking off in the USA thanks to Crocodile Dundee. I don't think it is that far fetched. They had already parted ways with Aussies Mark Evans and soon to do so with Phil Rudd, replacing both with Englishmen. Coincidence? Most likely.

Anyway yeah I reckon the move to Brian allowed the band to break America. Impossible to say if the same could have happened with Bon. Back in Black is also the best comeback from tragedy album made, which helped with it's success. Everyone likes a comeback story.

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Didn't Bon also express some desire to step away from the life on the road? From what I understand he was a bit older than the other guys and wanted to settle down.
 
truebeliever87 said:
Didn't Bon also express some desire to step away from the life on the road? From what I understand he was a bit older than the other guys and wanted to settle down.
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I put a post on the random thoughts thread of a Bon picture/quote from a photograph exhibition I was at a while back that said something like that.

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The Youngs ran AC/DC with a iron fist.
Highway to hell is a good album they seemed to get better and better, So back in black is again is a improvement.Would be interesting if Bon was alive to sing on that album and if it would of been as huge as it was.
 
Think they would be just as popular whatever happened. Their music was just high voltage rock and roll as Bon sang.

As an aside I not really listened to them since Fly On The Wall album.
Crazy they exist 3 decades on and feel like I missed nothing by not listening to anything after that.
 
Black Ice is a good album. Ballbreaker has a mix of real good and real average. The others you would hear the singles and that's probably enough.

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Maiden have changed a bit. Can't remember the last time they did more than one four minute rock song an album, or any up tempo rock songs.

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rocker_oz33 said:
They're prob in the lron Maiden mould they have their sound and its served them well over a long period.
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Don't think I listened to Iron Maiden since 2 minutes to midnight, whatever album that was on.
Maybe around same era as Fly on the Wall stuff.

ha ha, found video for it now. Not watched for 3 decades.... ha ha.
 
"Back in Black" was a mighty strong album and they followed that up with another strong effort with "For Those About To Rock We Salute You". If "Flick of the Switch" was the comeback album, they would be unheard of today! The Bon Scott story isn't as rosy as many people think, tensions were high within the band at the time of his death, he frequently squabbled with Malcolm Young throughout the "Highway To Hell" tour and Bon Scott did not like John "Mutt" Lange telling him to continually sing take after take during that album's sessions. The Young's were also not impressed having their singer not show up until five minutes before the gig begins on that tour. Most of the music for "Back in Black" was already written at the time of Scott's death, the band often played "Hells Bells" at the sound check in 1979 ,they just had no lyrics and this was a point of concern for Malcolm Young. Scott might only have lasted one or two more years as the lead singer anyway had he lived?
It doesn't matter anymore, Bon Scott, the impish, boozing, sex-crazed frontman of AC/DC, the myth and legend far out weighs all the faults and lives on forever.
 
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I thought all the music written for the H2H follow up was ditched after Bon died and BiB was completely fresh.

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I do wonder where AC/DC would have headed if Scott remained alive and as frontman. I think they'd have remained an Aussie legend like Midnight Oil but overseas wouldn't have been that much chop. Brian definitely has the more global appeal most would agree and a lot of overseas fans probably prefer his contribution but I and I'd say majority of Australian fans prefer the music Scott's AC/DC made.
 
Even with Bon Scott they were still playing to big crowds in the late 70s, not full stadiums but a lot bigger than most other Aussie bands.

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adammania9 said:
Brian definitely has the more global appeal most would agree and a lot of overseas fans probably prefer his contribution but I and I'd say majority of Australian fans prefer the music Scott's AC/DC made.
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People overseas say the guitars are out of tune in the Alberts productions, but I much prefer that edgy quality to the bigger US-style sound that had its origins with Lange. Most of their best stuff was laid down at Alberts, though I guess they made a lot more money with Brian.
 
What's another good question is, where would they be without Mutt Lange? AC/DC have been a band that just goes about their business and the producer has very little to do, but Mutt had a much more hands on approach and tried to steer them in other directions.
 

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