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Just watching Ackland on the weekend made me so happy that we got rid of him. He is hopeless. He has no confidence in his ability to start with, thats why he left for carlton. He now is struggling to keep his spot!!!
 

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Disagree. Although he isnt the best player going around, the one thing about Cain Ackland is that he'll always give his best effort for the team.

Good on him for getting a three year deal. Cant begrudge him that.

How good are we going with Doc Clarke and Michael Gardner as his replacements ? We'll be lucky to get a total of 20 games out of them, combined.
 
I think you may find that although three years appears to be the length of the deal, the third year is very much waited towards certain KPI's.

Meaning he can very easily not go into year 3.

At the end of the day, no matter how you look at Carlton's position, the club needed a ruckman of soughts who has a mature body, which Cain has.

Good luck to him for looking after himself.

I hope he gets the most out of himself next year, otherwise his AFL career maybe curtains.
 
saintsownthedome said:
Disagree. Although he isnt the best player going around, the one thing about Cain Ackland is that he'll always give his best effort for the team.

Good on him for getting a three year deal. Cant begrudge him that.

How good are we going with Doc Clarke and Michael Gardner as his replacements ? We'll be lucky to get a total of 20 games out of them, combined.
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If you went to the game on Saturday, you would have seen the sublime tap skills of Clarke. Ackland is a dog with no loyalty, destined for the scrap heap. I watched the Scorpions yesterday, Van Rheenan will be a player. Gardiner will be good also, not to mention Kosi and Rix, looking very good ruck wise.
 
In 2005 Ackland was Top Ten B&F. He might have been higher pre-Round 17, when he injured a knee against Collingwood. Anyone who thinks he wasn't an upgrade from Knobel (Mr Walls?) is an idiot.

After he injured his knee he was never the same footballer for us, and that appears to have continued. He was recruited by a club that has picked up Dylan McLaren, Barnaby French & Ricky Mott in recent years. Not much of a strategic plan at Carlton where ruckmen are concerned.

He left St Kilda despite being "a required player" in Ross Lyon's words. However, we were never going to give him the contract he received at Carlton.

During 2007 Michael Rix has improved, to the point now where he is above Ackland. Here's hoping he doesn't dash somewhere for the cash in the future. I believe Rix is signed up for next year.

Ackland has been disappointing at Carlton, and they need to develop some ruckman somewhere. On the other hand, St Kilda has Rix, Gardiner, Koschitzke & Van Rheenan for next year and beyond.
 
I was ropable after our pathetic last quarter on Saturday (you'll all be happy to know that I'm officially backing off my top four hopes) until I heard that Carlton had signed Ackland for THREE YEARS.

I'd forgotten about that. It's my favourite thing that Carlton has done since they took Craig Davenport off us.
 

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The Punter said:
In 2005 Ackland was Top Ten B&F. He might have been higher pre-Round 17, when he injured a knee against Collingwood. Anyone who thinks he wasn't an upgrade from Knobel (Mr Walls?) is an idiot.

After he injured his knee he was never the same footballer for us, and that appears to have continued. He was recruited by a club that has picked up Dylan McLaren, Barnaby French & Ricky Mott in recent years. Not much of a strategic plan at Carlton where ruckmen are concerned.

He left St Kilda despite being "a required player" in Ross Lyon's words. However, we were never going to give him the contract he received at Carlton.

During 2007 Michael Rix has improved, to the point now where he is above Ackland. Here's hoping he doesn't dash somewhere for the cash in the future. I believe Rix is signed up for next year.

Ackland has been disappointing at Carlton, and they need to develop some ruckman somewhere. On the other hand, St Kilda has Rix, Gardiner, Koschitzke & Van Rheenan for next year and beyond.
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No question he was an upgrade from Knobel. That doesn't make him any good though. He had one good season, yes. But he didn't go on with it, and my guess is he won't see year 3 @ Carlton. He'll probably start sooking coz they won't think he's worth as much as he does, then ask for a trade.
 
The Punter said:
During 2007 Michael Rix has improved, to the point now where he is above Ackland. Here's hoping he doesn't dash somewhere for the cash in the future. I believe Rix is signed up for next year.

Ackland has been disappointing at Carlton, and they need to develop some ruckman somewhere. On the other hand, St Kilda has Rix, Gardiner, Koschitzke & Van Rheenan for next year and beyond.
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I doubt that Rix will go anywhere, given his age, and that we took him as, in many ways, a mercy pick - he was never going to play AFL unless we took him. He'd have to be pretty mercenary to leave. Besides, while I think Kosi and Gardiner will do much better injury-wise next year, I reckon we can expect to lose about 4-5 games a year from each of them with niggles, etc, and then Rix will be in the mix: he'll get about 8 games, and enjoy the rest of his time tapping at Casey. And if Van keeps growing, Lyon might even start thinking of a 3-ruck team, with Kosi spending most of his time at FF (although then it'd be a shame for Watts... ah, to finally have a glut of talent! :) ).
 
GreatSaint said:
Just watching Ackland on the weekend made me so happy that we got rid of him. He is hopeless. He has no confidence in his ability to start with, thats why he left for carlton. He now is struggling to keep his spot!!!
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funny thing is, that was just about his best game for them!
 

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