Adelaide v Sydney

[Damp Squarie]

OK its time to put Sydney to the sword.
Nigel Smarts testimonial match too; we should win this easily; despite their rise and rise.

Ins: Carey, Bassett
Outs: Mattner, Bickley??
Freshen him up for the fianls and it will give him a good full run with South- I think he needs it.

( It wont happen but Shirley and Begley deserve to be kept in the side)- Both had top games today

 

[SAbella]

Originally posted by topjars
OK its time to put Sydney to the sword.
Nigel Smarts testimonial match too; we should win this easily; despite their rise and rise.

Ins: Carey, Bassett
Outs: Mattner, Bickley??
Freshen him up for the fianls and it will give him a good full run with South- I think he needs it.

( It wont happen but Shirley and Begley deserve to be kept in the side)- Both had top games today

I agree that we should win this one. Will we start favourites?

Bassett will definitely be back and I think they will play Carey in this game.
Doubt they'll take Bickely out though.

 

[Stiffy_18]

If ever there was an 8 point game this would be it. Carey, Bassett and possibly Massie will all be fit to play. Bode, Reilly, Schuback, Hentschel, Skipworth and Gallagher are all putting thier hand up which is good to see.

IN: Carey and Bassett
OUT: Mattner and Rutten (Although Rutten would be pretty stiff to miss out)

Bickley should stay in and rotate him with Shirley who is playing some pretty good footy. I think the coaching staff gave Bicks a "light" game today. He spent a fair bit of time on the bench

 

[Damp Squarie]

I forgot about Rutten.
He'll go along with Mattner who sustained a shin injury.
Bickley needs to lift his game though.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Good to hear Stevo should return to the Eagles side next week & that he is still very much part of our 2004 campagn. I was starting to get a little worried as to whether we would see him again this year.

For next week, Bassett, Massie & Carey should all play if fit. As for the outs, my picks would be Rutten, Mattner & Begley (the last 2 being unlucky). If it were not Smart's testimonial match, I would consider dropping him after 2 very poor performances. He is on very thin ice IMO.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by topjars

Bickley needs to lift his game though.

Bickley was quiet today, but thought he was good last week & has had a very solid season. You don't drop club legends after 1 poor performance.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
For next week, Bassett, Massie & Carey should all play if fit. As for the outs, my picks would be Rutten, Mattner & Begley (the last 2 being unlucky). If it were not Smart's testimonial match, I would consider dropping him after 2 very poor performances. He is on very thin ice IMO.

That is criminal. Begley played one of his best games in a while

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
That is criminal. Begley played one of his best games in a while

Massie played consistent footy for more than ONE game & deserves to get his spot back. Who else do you drop? Surely not Torney or Shirley who are more deserving than Begley IMO.

 

[Sezza_20]

It's a good sign when there are soo many players in good form and pushing for selection!!

Ins: Carey, Bassett
Outs: Rutten, Mattner (even if he isn't injured)

I really don't think it would be fair to drop either Begley or Shirley cos they are both playing great footy at the moment......but so was Massie before he was injured.....Dilemma - What to???

Torney was dropped last week but played because of injury. He can't be dropped again because his game was great today.

Ladhams is safe and I don't think Bickley should go because he still played alright dispite limited opportunities. Smart was slightly average but he's just as likely to play a blinder this week as is Ronnie Burns who was also quiet today.

hmm Massie?? How about he plays SANFL this week or we rest him again and see what happens against Sydney? He does deserve to be in the team.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Massie played consistent footy for more than ONE game & deserves to get his spot back. Who else do you drop? Surely not Torney or Shirley who are more deserving than Begley IMO.

But cannot honestly drop a player after he has played a very good game and collected 25 possesions, providing a lot of run from the HB flank and using the ball well. You don't drop players that are performing well.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
IN: Carey and Bassett
OUT: Mattner and Rutten (Although Rutten would be pretty stiff to miss out)

I agree with those changes.

I also side with Stiffy on the Massie debate. We just can't drop Begley. Massie is a fine player though and I'd love to see him back into the side. But its difficult to fit 23 into 22.

I'm sure some freak training injury or some frivolous video citing/suspension will come up mid-week... problem solved.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Apart from this game Begley has been bloody average since his 1st 2 games. Massie was in unbelievable form before he was injured over many games (ie. more than the one game from Begley). Massie deserves to come straight back into the side, rather than back via the SANFL. How you guys can compare Begley's form favourably to Massie's has me absolutely dumbfounded.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Apart from this game Begley has been bloody average since his 1st 2 games. Massie was in unbelievable form before he was injured over many games (ie. more than the one game from Begley). Massie deserves to come straight back into the side, rather than back via the SANFL. How you guys can compare Begley's form favourably to Massie's has me absolutely dumbfounded.

There is no question that Massie was in a VERY good form in the last 6 or so weeks he has played in. However, you don't drop a plyer after he has had a very good game. Massie has missed last 2 weeks. If he is ready this week it would not hurt for him to play with Norwood for a week to get a bit of a run. I am all in favour of brining Massie in but you cannot punish Belgey for playing a very good game. In reality as good as Massie has been of late he has far from stitched up a permanent spot in the side.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Apart from this game Begley has been bloody average since his 1st 2 games. Massie was in unbelievable form before he was injured over many games (ie. more than the one game from Begley). Massie deserves to come straight back into the side, rather than back via the SANFL. How you guys can compare Begley's form favourably to Massie's has me absolutely dumbfounded.

Well firstly I think you're being harsh on Begley. He's had two good games in a row. He spent the first half on the bench against Freo but was sensational in the second half when he was given some ground time.

I probably agree with you that Massie has had a better year than Begley. But Begley is the one fit, in form and firing. You just don't drop in form players. Begley deserves at least another game. And Massie will unfortunately just pay the price for an untimely injury.

And Kane... you seem to have some strange vendetta against Begley. Every week you call for him to be dropped no matter what his form is like. I'm not quite sure why...

Is it because he's from Sturt? If it's because he's from Sturt then I understand; the Double Blues have given us nothing but duds over the years. But I think that just for a change, just maybe, we might have an exception to the rule here. Begley looks quite a useful player.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by DaveW
Well firstly I think you're being harsh on Begley. He's had two good games in a row. He spent the first half on the bench against Freo but was sensational in the second half when he was given some ground time.

I probably agree with you that Massie has had a better year than Begley. But Begley is the one fit, in form and firing. You just don't drop in form players. Begley deserves at least another game. And Massie will unfortunately just pay the price for an untimely injury.

And Kane... you seem to have some strange vendetta against Begley. Every week you call for him to be dropped no matter what his form is like. I'm not quite sure why...

Is it because he's from Sturt? If it's because he's from Sturt then I understand; the Double Blues have given us nothing but duds over the years. But I think that just for a change, just maybe, we might have an exception to the rule here. Begley looks quite a useful player.

Go back to Begley's 1st 2 games & I was singing his praises like most people. I call it as I see it & not influenced by a players' personality, looks, etc... I'm fustrated that Begley's from has dropped off since those games (until today) & that he has been given more chances than other more deserving players such as Dogga (& I'm not a South supporter either). His kicking for goal is atrocious - 0 goals, 6 points ... & his disposal last week against Freo was ordinary even when there was no pressure on him. No point getting the ball if you waste it! Don't get me wrong, I reckon he will develop into a very handy player for AFC, but to say he is on a par with Massie (who has been in career best form) has me miffed. BTW, I am a believer in bringing in your better players who have recovered from injury, even if it is at the expense of a player who played well this week.

 

[macca23]

It's an interesting problem isn't it - just the reverse of normal. As Dave said its difficult to fit 23 into 22.

Carey and Bassett are the must Ins

Mattner and Rutten should be the Outs for these 2.

In most other sides Massie would be a first choice player on his previous form. I can't pick anybody who deserves to lose their place though for him to get in, so I'll just put this one in my too hard basket!!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
There is no question that Massie was in a VERY good form in the last 6 or so weeks he has played in. However, you don't drop a plyer after he has had a very good game. Massie has missed last 2 weeks. If he is ready this week it would not hurt for him to play with Norwood for a week to get a bit of a run. I am all in favour of brining Massie in but you cannot punish Belgey for playing a very good game. In reality as good as Massie has been of late he has far from stitched up a permanent spot in the side.

IMO, Massie has stitched up a permanent spot in our team based on his recent performances. Also, you shoul drop a player who performed well if it as the expense of a better player. Based on that theory, Goody should have played for North reserves rather than for the Crows today.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by macca23
In most other sides Massie would be a first choice player on his previous form. I can't pick anybody who deserves to lose their place though for him to get in, so I'll just put this one in my too hard basket!!

Fence sitter!

Tell us what you really think.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
It's an interesting problem isn't it - just the reverse of normal. As Dave said its difficult to fit 23 into 22.

Carey and Bassett are the must Ins

Mattner and Rutten should be the Outs for these 2.

In most other sides Massie would be a first choice player on his previous form. I can't pick anybody who deserves to lose their place though for him to get in, so I'll just put this one in my too hard basket!!

That backside must be really sore from sitting on that fence for too long!!!!!!

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Based on that theory, Goody should have played for North reserves rather than for the Crows today.

Not really. We had some passengers last week, i.e. Hentschel, Bode who didn't really warrant keeping their spot in the side. So Goodwin took their place because their form was ordinary.

Now if it was Goodwin returning from injury versus an in form Begley, I would go for Begley. And who had the better game today?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by DaveW
Not really. We had some passengers last week, i.e. Hentschel, Bode who didn't really warrant keeping their spot in the side. So Goodwin took their place because their form was ordinary.

Now if it was Goodwin returning from injury versus an in form Begley, I would go for Begley. And who had the better game today?

I believe I was the one who 1st called for Bode to be dropped last week. If Good v Begley, you would have to pick Goody as we need to get him match fit for a tough month ahead (even if Begley if play better today). Goody is gun player for the Crows - Begley is not.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I believe I was the one who 1st called for Bode to be dropped last week.

You might have been Kane although I know I was in good company with plenty others when I was calling for his head after his worst ever game in Crows colours last week.

Okay, I'll hop off the fence for a minute.

Begley can't be dropped on his form in the last 2 games. Can't be.

The other problem Massie faces is that Begley gives height and dash on a wing with Ben Hart dropping back into defence.

I can't find anybody else who deserves to be omitted, so I'd play Massie with Norwood next week.

Now back to my fence again.

 

[ant]

Well, I'll half fence sit people because Massie definitely has stiched up a spot in our best 22 if fit and if he's ready and raring to go next weekend, he should be in. However, who for? It's a tough call but these decisions have to be made unfortunately and somebody's going to be unlucky.

Having said that, I can see the Crows' selection committee disagreeing with me and giving him a run with Norwood first.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Possible line up

Here is the possible line up Vs the Swans.

_F: _ 17. Scott Welsh _ 22. Ian Perrie _ 5. Ronnie Burns
HF: _ 40. Chris Ladhams _ 2. Wayne Carey _ 18. Graham Johncock
_C: _ 20. Tyson Stenglein _ 32. Mark Ricciuto _ 24. Brett Burton
HB: _ 15. Jason Torney _ 16. Ken McGregor _ 9. Tyson Edwards
_B: _ 7. Nigel Smart _ 8. Nathan Bassett _ 34. Ben Hart
1R: _ 35. Rhett Biglands _ 36. Simon Goodwin _ 23. Andrew McLeod

Int: _ 4. Matthew Clarke _ 12. Robert Shirley _ 26. Mark Bickley _ 28. James Begley

IN: Carey, Bassett
OUT: Rutten, Mattner

Match Ups

Tyson Stenglein Vs Paul Williams
Stinger has played on Williams earlier in the season and did a great job. He should get the task again as Williams has always played well against us in the past.

Ben Hart Vs Michael O'Loughlin
Hart is the obvious choice for O'Loughlin who has been in great goal kicking form. O'Loughlin is a player capable of turing the game in a short period of time. Hart has done well in these sort of roles in the past and would be a good choice.

Nathan Bassett Vs Barry Hall
Basset has played really well on Bazza in last 2 games. For some reason he finds Hall easier to contain that Lynch. Bassett should get the first crack at BBBB and if history is anything to go by, hound should do a very good job

Nigel Smart Vs Adam Goodes
When Adam is not rucking, Nigel should be his man. He did a good job him earlier in the season. Nigel usually lift when he has to play on a better player so I would expect him to break even at least.

Tyson Edwards Vs Nick Davis
You never know what you are gonna get with Davis. His best is freakish, his worst is shocking. Has great skills and is a goal kicker. I would rather be safe than sorry and would start with Edwards on him. However, Torney might also be an option.

Shirley might get either Creswell or Maxfield.

If there ever was an important game this is it. We must beat Sydney and beat them well if we can. Collingwood is sneaking up on us and percentage will be vital. Win this and we could be in 3rd spot at the end of the round. A HUGE game. A MUST win.

 

[macca23]

Re: Possible line up

Originally posted by Stiffy_18

If there ever was an important game this is it. We must beat Sydney and beat them well if we can. Collingwood is sneaking up on us and percentage will be vital. Win this and we could be in 3rd spot at the end of the round. A HUGE game. A MUST win.

This is a must win game Stiffy. If we can't win it we can forget about a top 4 spot.

Actually I'm very confident about this one. We do have the players to negate their good players, and seem to match up well on them.

Crows by 30+.