We're all hoping that Draper can be the ruck to save us from this nightmareNow I can breathe a sigh of relief - only Gawn, Naitanui, Nankervis, Blicavs and Witts left to go...
Preview Round 8: Adelaide vs Essendon, Adelaide Oval, Sunday 26/07/2020, 1:05 PM AEST
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Hitouts to advantage can be slightly useful if you actually have a good midfield. Which we donāt.
Not to mention itās a rubbery stat.
Itās some solid list management that has you going into a season with one - one - fit AFL standard ruckman. And thatās Andrew Phillips.
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So your argument is because both will get beaten around the ground, there is no harm in playing the one that does absolutely nothing. No more stats from previous years, they're not relevant. Bellchambers is NOT that player anymore. Small sample size yes, but watch his games, scratch matches included. No second efforts and no marking option around the ground. When you watch the games, the only time you see Bellchambers is at a hitout.
The argument is that Phillips (while also not great) offers more around the ground and can provide a contest, lay tackles and be a presence. Not a bad trade-off for losing avg 2 hitouts compared to Bellchambers.
....combined with a functioning midfield to tap the ball to ...
Tap ruckmen and midfields are so over rated. All we need is catapult run off half back and skyscraper kicks into the forward line on top of Tippaās head. After all, Seems to be good enough to win us every second game over the last few years* (*barring finals that is)
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We are basically going to be playing with one less man. TBC just taps the ball, and nothing else. At least Phillips provides a contest around the ground.
Like what many other posters in this thread are saying, would TBC have subdued the effect of Grundy two weeks ago? No way! He is too slow to keep up.
At least Phillips is mobile and can to some extent provide a contest against O'Brien around the ground. On top of this, keeping Phillips in the team would build his confidence, But No, in typical Essington fashion we will drop a player after a few games to fk up his confidence in lieu of TBC who is a has-been.
Then on top of all this, we are going with a short forward line/team.
This isn't anything new. We have been making weird selection decisions for many years. I'm getting fed up lol
Like what many other posters in this thread are saying, would TBC have subdued the effect of Grundy two weeks ago? No way! He is too slow to keep up.
At least Phillips is mobile and can to some extent provide a contest against O'Brien around the ground. On top of this, keeping Phillips in the team would build his confidence, But No, in typical Essington fashion we will drop a player after a few games to fk up his confidence in lieu of TBC who is a has-been.
Then on top of all this, we are going with a short forward line/team.
This isn't anything new. We have been making weird selection decisions for many years. I'm getting fed up lol
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Not sure what you guys are worried about, ROB is an average tap ruckman at best.
And on the unlikely chance we do win the tap we still won't win the clearance because we don't have a midfield.
And on the unlikely chance we do win the tap we still won't win the clearance because we don't have a midfield.
i would like to get off the cones. But watching this team makes me so insane i need cones not to have a bloody heart atttach. Helps me give a F less when we lose
i think bellchambers might come out firing. Its hi slast chance. He was droppped and now has his chance to put in a 4 qtr effort.
If he cant do that at least put some body on the opposition
If he cant do that at least put some body on the opposition
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Except he's not. Currently would be this season.
And as I've said repeatedly less than 2 effective hit outs more isn't a sign of him being currently better than Phillips.
And before you quote it again, no Ethan last year or earlier does not count as current.
Phillips brings a bit of bit of effort - as seen v Grundy & Goldy (2 of the better rucks in the comp)
He made English look like a superstar last week though.
Our ruck stocks are deplorable at the moment. The eggs in one basket approach on Draper makes me nervous.
We are the exact type of 'nuff' team to lose this game... and give Adelaide their first (and potentially only) win of the season.
It will either pan out this way or we will do everything possible to lose it... despite potentially just hanging on.
Lowest collective IQ of any team in the competition. You can already smell the complacency from across the border.
It will either pan out this way or we will do everything possible to lose it... despite potentially just hanging on.
Lowest collective IQ of any team in the competition. You can already smell the complacency from across the border.
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Okay, he has one viable skill as shown in 2 of 3 games this season, whereas Phillips has none as shown in 2 of 3 games this year.
Phillips was completely and utterly demolished by Goldy. No ifs or buts about it. For all his plaudits against Grundy, Grundy was still comfortably Collingwood's best player, and as I said, if Bellchambers put up that game against English there'd be riots.
Nah, heās not out of place on an AFL list, if only as a backup.
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Grateful for this post - was feeling it was about time we moved away from the ruck debate and went back to talking about how probable it is that the crows will roll us
Youāre totally right but Iām not even sure a loss here would be completely nutjob Essington loss.
On paper this week weāre plain old s**t. Injuries have really bitten.
Ambrose, Daniher, Fantasia, Stringer, Heppell, Shiel, Hooker and Stewart is an ugly injury list in terms of talent and structure.
In terms of whoās actually playing... Francis, McKenna and Gleeson have all had very recent interruptions and are not near 100% here.
Itās extremely arguable whether Snelling, Townsend, Hibberd and Cahill belong on an AFL field.
Yet a few others are out of form.
Weāre in very bad shape atm.
JT_the_Man
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We donāt have a midfield either atm
Nah, he belongs.
We are unreliable/flaky even with a full list. This would be no 'guaranteed win' even with zero players on the injury list.
It's an inept culture of complacency that has been around for countless years now. Have we been a good side in any of those years? No. But there has still been enough talent on the park to win these sorts of games when we are expected to.
I've read a couple of posts in this thread when scanning through earlier (some from Crows fans) laughing at the fact that we can even consider them a big/likely chance to win this game. Let's have a quick revisit of recent clashes against the down & out 'bottom' club...
Round 19 2019 - Gold Coast (18th) vs Essendon - US by 10 points (after the Suns, on a 13 game losing streak, led by 2 points with 90 seconds left on the clock)
Round 11 2019 - Carlton (18th) vs Essendon - US by 41 points
Round 8 2019 - Sydney (18th) vs Essendon - SWANS by 5 points
Round 8 2018 - Carlton (18th) vs Essendon - BLUES by 13 points
Round 3 2018 - Western Bulldogs (18th) vs Essendon - BULLDOGS by 21 points
Round 15 2017 - Brisbane (18th) vs Essendon - LIONS by 8 points
Now that right there... is flaky. It's an embarrassing record, that with injuries or not, is a major chance to continue tomorrow.
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