Adelaide's decline

[Mr_Moogle]

Small hands. That's their problem.



They never did have the makings of a varsity athlete.

 

[Freomaniac]

You’re mostly right - but the Tippett sanctions are a massive part of why we’re falling in a hole now.

Add 3 first round picks and 3 second round picks into our side, and that’s potentially 4-6 quality players we’re missing.

Compound that with our hopeless admin/leadership, of which Roo is obviously a part of, and it’s no wonder we’re f’ed.

The last decade of the Crows should become a text book study in how to fu** up a footy club.

The Tippet Fiasco played a mild to moderate part why the crows are in their current position.

To me that was a small reason why they are in their current situation.

Losing David Noble to Brisbane would of been a bigger blow.

Saying that, I always loved comparing Crows 2012 situation to Carltons 2002 situation.

Crows 2007-9 recruitng in those National drafts are the main reason you didnt do a carlton of 2002 and spend 4-6 years outside the top 8

Crows are a semi decent run club.

Gold coast suns have been poorly run since coming in to the league in 2011, if they dont make finals, thats 10 year in a row outside the top 8

 

[Freomaniac]

McAdam does have a lot of raw talent but I don't know how you could call him elite when he hasn't even played a game of AFL.

I have seen him play in the SANFL.

He comes from your SANFL club sturt. I saw him play well in the 2018 finals series with sturt.

I am certain he played in one or both of the Sturts flags they won in 2016 and 2017.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I have seen him play in the SANFL.

He comes from your SANFL club sturt. I saw him play well in the 2018 finals series with sturt.

I am certain he played in one or both of the Sturts flags they won in 2016 and 2017.

Yeah he did. He certainly has the physical tools to make it in the AFL. Whether or not he has the nous and work ethic to make it is an unknown at this point though. He tends to play in bursts and fades in and out of games a little too much for my liking.

 

[Freomaniac]

Yeah he did. He certainly has the physical tools to make it in the AFL. Whether or not he has the nous and work ethic to make it is an unknown at this point though. He tends to play in bursts and fades in and out of games a little too much for my liking.

Since Eddie Betts left your team isnt to spoiled for choice in forward pocket players, its Shane McAdam or Tyson stengle

 

[Gavin Excell]

Don’t want to turn this into a SA bashing but I note everyone in key positions are South Australians
Is that a little insular?

 

[iameviljez]

Adelaide has f’ed up significantly not so much as in mismanagement but they are behind in professional practice. If you use Hawthorn as the bench, Adelaid is like 20 years behind

It does seem similar to being a "big club" completely failing to catch up with the consequences of an equalised playing field - and hero-worship getting in the way of good management.

Big reputations in big clubs have been a downfall for a lot of sides - and not enough people have been told "no". Eddie should have been told that his coach-handover was incredibly dumb, and might have cost Collingwood another flag. Someone should have told Essendon that simply throwing Hird to the lions was a terrible way to pick a coach. Same goes for Crazy Vossy's spending spree. And the same goes for telling Burton and Riccuito that the best damage control was a mea culpa, not Nothing To See Here.

 

[King Elvis]

Don’t want to turn this into a SA bashing but I note everyone in key positions are South Australians
Is that a little insular?

Definitely.

 

[PAFC_1870]

Don’t want to turn this into a SA bashing but I note everyone in key positions are South Australians
Is that a little insular?

I presume Fagan isn't though, but they have a long history of jobs for the boys

 

[Gavin Excell]

I presume Fagan isn't though, but they have a long history of jobs for the boys

I counted the following

Chapman
Riccuito
Nicks
All assistant coaches

 

[HotSausage69]

I've just noticed they have a lot of 'Mc's' in their squad. With Eddie McGuire also receiving some bad publicity lately, is it just a case of bad year for the Mc's?

McAdam
McAsey
McHenry
M. Crouch

That's a lot of Mc's to chew on....

 

[Gavin Excell]

I've just noticed they have a lot of 'Mc's' in their squad. With Eddie McGuire also receiving some bad publicity lately, is it just a case of bad year for the Mc's?

McAdam
McAsey
McHenry
M. Crouch

That's a lot of Mc's to chew on....

Incredibly perceptive analysis

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

I've just noticed they have a lot of 'Mc's' in their squad. With Eddie McGuire also receiving some bad publicity lately, is it just a case of bad year for the Mc's?

McAdam
McAsey
McHenry
M. Crouch

That's a lot of Mc's to chew on....

Don't forget the riley and rory etc

riley knight
reilly o'brien
rory sloane
rory atkins
rory laird

 

[t_94]

“Again with Charlie, it was not the money. Let's just leave it at that!", he said.

You'd hope that Roo keeps his mouth shut.

Player managers are some of the dogiest people going. They leech on to the these players and string out work that a QC could do in a day or two. I dont know the ins and outs, but I wouldn't take what they say as gospel.

 

[Papa G]

I counted the following

Chapman
Riccuito
Nicks
All assistant coaches

Nicks is from SA but he's had zero to do with the Crows till now. Played with Sydney, assistant at Port and GWS. Get the feeling Nicks will be a stop gap coach who'll very soon start copping the wrath of the supporter base and SA media, but he'll escape the "bloody Victorian" vitriol Robert Shaw and Gary Ayres copped.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

Nicks is from SA but he's had zero to do with the Crows till now. Played with Sydney, assistant at Port and GWS. Get the feeling Nicks will be a stop gap coach who'll very soon start copping the wrath of the supporter base and SA media, but he'll escape the "bloody Victorian" vitriol Robert Shaw and Gary Ayres copped.

He is their "primus" no support, scapegoat coach.

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[Jibroni]

its been a mystery why so many good players have left Adelaide and attracting few established players. In comparison to other clubs their administration is not been that bad but I can’t help to think the media have something to do with this.

In comparison to Port who with the exception of Wingard have pretty much kept the core of their team and brought in quality / experienced players to enhance their team.

 

[Papa G]

its been a mystery why so many good players have left Adelaide and attracting few established players. In comparison to other clubs their administration is not been that bad but I can’t help to think the media have something to do with this.

In comparison to Port who with the exception of Wingard have pretty much kept the core of their team and brought in quality / experienced players to enhance their team.

Wingard was a case of the club actively trading him rather than him wanting to leave. In recent times the only player that left the club for money/contract is Polec.

 

[Angus Young]

its been a mystery why so many good players have left Adelaide

ummm club culture.. shit boring city...

 

[PAFC_1870]

ummm club culture.. sh*t boring city...

Tonnes of players leaving Port Adelaide....

Oh wait....

City has nothing to do with it.

 

[Gordon Farkas]

Don’t want to turn this into a SA bashing but I note everyone in key positions are South Australians
Is that a little insular?

Not all South Australians are insular.

But no one is more insular than an insular South Australian.

"SA Great!" "Kick a Vic!"

 

[Red Bull]

Gibbs = massively over paid
Walker = over paid
Mackay = over paid
Smith = over paid
Talia = over paid
Sloane = over paid

Adelaide are also paying for Betts who was BOG against Geelong last night ... to play for Carlton

 

[PAFC_1870]

But no one is more insular than an insular South Australian.

Dan the man says Hi

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Q: If the Crows get flogged by The Suns, does Riccuito fall on his sword ?

At the very least, his comments about greedy players leaving for money probably makes it even more difficult for a rebuilding team like The Crows to lure decent Free Agent/Out of Contract players (an issue they already have had problems with)

They keep shooting themselves in the foot, and a suffering Carlton fan over the years, I have great empathy for what Crows fans are going with shocking administration.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Wingard was a case of the club actively trading him rather than him wanting to leave. In recent times the only player that left the club for money/contract is Polec.

Polec is no big loss, stunk it up yesterday for North, it was a very sensible decision by Kern to let him go.