Advice on Strategy

[trueblue_91]

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trueblue_91's tip

a lot of people might argue with this. But never spend too much money in the midfield. There are some very good cheap options that are under 250,000. So get 1-2 stars in your midfield and 4 very good players that are very cheap because you won't often find this in the forwards and backs.

So get better players in the forawards and backs and in the midfield get players like foley,pendlebury,n lappin, rischitelli,griffen just to name a few

good luck everyone for 2007

 

[T-I-G-E-R-M-A-N]

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a lot of people might argue with this. But never spend too much money in the midfield. There are some very good cheap options that are under 250,000. So get 1-2 stars in your midfield and 4 very good players that are very cheap because you won't often find this in the forwards and backs.

So get better players in the forawards and backs and in the midfield get players like foley,pendlebury,n lappin, rischitelli,griffen just to name a few

good luck everyone for 2007

deadright trueblue... theres bargains everywhere, higgins,hurn,addison and dean polo will do well this year

 

[Kildonan]

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a lot of people might argue with this. But never spend too much money in the midfield. There are some very good cheap options that are under 250,000. So get 1-2 stars in your midfield and 4 very good players that are very cheap because you won't often find this in the forwards and backs.

So get better players in the forawards and backs and in the midfield get players like foley,pendlebury,n lappin, rischitelli,griffen just to name a few

good luck everyone for 2007

I tend to do similar - it may be because there are always a number of players who are about to graduate to full midfield duties after showing glimpses the previous season. There is a certain gratification to pick a player who performs as good as your GUN pick but costs less than half his price.

 

[blues4flag]

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I've gone for 3 gun mids (350k) though I expect 2 of them to have better seasons than last. Also got Micheal Ri****elli and Lappin as cheaper mids, as well as another under 250k.

 

[lion_gooner]

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im no expert or anything

but the most important position to have good players in is the backline theres a big difference between good backmen and hopeless backmen so make sure you pick the right ones

im pretty sure i have

 

[Skooks]

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Skooks' Tip

Whenever in doubt, any doubt whatsoever, please feel free to PM LukeHodge15

But seriously...

My tip would be..

When trading always look at the bigger picture. Especially early on. If one of your gun players is going to be out for a couple of weeks, and you are able to cover him, don't bother trading him. Maybe towards the end of the year and you have trades saved up, but especially at the start, don't bother trading away any of your 350k+ players even if their form is ****, as that is your fault for picking a dud. 350k+ should be definites to average 85+.

 

[Rough_Edges]

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Rough_Edges tip

Like many have said. The trades are like gold. 20 trades must seem like a lot, but you don't know how fast you can get through them. So don't make a team saying thinking to yourself, oh i will just keep him for 3 weeks and then trade him when i make money. Make your team good at the start of the season so you don't have to waste trades getting it good, sure you might have a good team by round 4...Thats 8 trades right there.

Get your team right before the start of the season and use your trades sparingly, this is only my second season, although I finished in the top 200 last year i could've done a lot better if I hadn't of used 12 trades by round 7.

 

[sante]

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Sante's Tip/s:

DO NOT COPY the majority of teams posted around here, if they were the better DTers they wouldn't need help through the entire team...

My main tip is that the first 30 players you decide to pick are probably most important. As the season goes on, players in form are obvious and you can trade for them when needed (that may be by upgrading a cash cow etc.)...this confirms my point that the 30 players you pick for Round 1 are very, very important, even though some of these players aren't selected for the business end of the season. All 30 players you select will impact your team.

As of now, we don't know which players will have breakout years and which players will have shockers. We all have our suspicions of who is more likely and so on.

 

[Ausyid]

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Thanks for the advice everyone. I am sure there are a lot of inexperienced DTers out there who can learn a lot from what you blokes have said.

 

[Jimi]

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A question for the DT guns.
Do you guys get the 400k blokes like Judd, Bruce, Hayes, etc from the start or do you get the slightly cheaper blokes like Hodge, Ling, Black, etc who are probably a bit underpriced and should go up to 400k, allowing you to spend more money on your team.

Also I agree with Monty re rucks. It is the hardest position to get right and gets me every year. This season I'm tearing my hair out about whether to start Darcy or not, what's likely to happen is that I'll get him and he'll go down injured round one

 

[trueblue_91]

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A question for the DT guns.
Do you guys get the 400k blokes like Judd, Bruce, Hayes, etc from the start or do you get the slightly cheaper blokes like Hodge, Ling, Black, etc who are probably a bit underpriced and should go up to 400k, allowing you to spend more money on your team.

Also I agree with Monty re rucks. It is the hardest position to get right and gets me every year. This season I'm tearing my hair out about whether to start Darcy or not, what's likely to happen is that I'll get him and he'll go down injured round one

I aint the greatest Dreamteamer but i guess im respectable top 500 last year. i don't go for the more expensive mids because i believe there are better options that are cheaper. i have one mid thats 380 and the rest are good value. but i guess 1 gun cant hurt but dont go for too many. and if u can go cheaper do it.

 

[Rough_Edges]

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A question for the DT guns.
Do you guys get the 400k blokes like Judd, Bruce, Hayes, etc from the start or do you get the slightly cheaper blokes like Hodge, Ling, Black, etc who are probably a bit underpriced and should go up to 400k, allowing you to spend more money on your team.

Also I agree with Monty re rucks. It is the hardest position to get right and gets me every year. This season I'm tearing my hair out about whether to start Darcy or not, what's likely to happen is that I'll get him and he'll go down injured round one

I'd say the slightly cheaper blokes, but everyone has there own strategy. Getting 6 players @ 300+ just shouldn't happen imo. Find players who aren't at 320k or higher that can perform and average 80 for a while and then trade for a more expensive bloke further down the track.

And, I wouldn't start Darcy. But others would...

 

[Riverat]

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The obvious two MEGA stars of supercoach are Judd & Brown.

According to there price anyway, do you pick a player of this calibre at the start of the year or not far into the season

 

[Kildonan]

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The decision is up to the individual.

It is extremely unlikely that anyone will outscore Jono Brown if he remains uninjured. If you work out how much each DT / SC point costs in dollar terms, Brown is not all that economical. He is however, the biggest scorer and so he helps you score the most. Basically that is what the game is all about - scoring the most.

My thoughts are that the key forwards, and talls in general, take three or four weeks to really hit their straps - therefore there is an opportunity to grab some of these players after they have knocked a little off their price, and about the time when they are beginning to outperform the smaller players who have already begun to rise in price.

I am not saying that Brown will definitely take three weeks to hit form, but it is a calculated risk to leave him out when you make your initial team, then put yourself in a position where you can capitalise on your calculated risk.
It does cost a very valuable trade though.

 

[nighthawk]

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Normally i think it makes sense with the really expensive players to wait until their price drops, and grab them then (der...). But the one exception in my opinion is Judd, simply because of his consistency. Usually, the lower down in the average points you go, the more consistency you get, but Judd manages to produce results between 90-110 most weeks.

I think most people would want players like Judd and Brown in their team sometime before round 22. Whilst Brown can probably be expected to drop in price at some point, Judd is less likely to do so.

Basically, most people want Judd eventually, and in my opinion (which isn't worth all that much), there isn't gonna be a much better time to grab him than the start.

Plus it's good to have a consistent high scoring player from the beginning.

 

[jbomb3000]

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This thread has been great, no smart ass replies or trying to throw people off. Good advise form some of the more experienced amoungst us. Cheers guys, keep it coming.

 

[DanA]

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My tip which (more for the better players) is to follow the rules but find exceptions to the rule you are comfortable with.

Don't pick injury prone players
Have ruck depth
Save your trades
Don't waste money on your bench
Check the injury lists
etc, etc.

Most good players know these rules. The best players are the ones who know when to break them. They find the exception and that is how they get an advantage over the pack.

 

[captain_obscure]

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Thanks for all the advice guys, good stuff.

Does anyone know a site where you can find stats for both the NAB Cup and Challenge? fanfooty has stats for the NAB Cup games but not for the Challenge and Regional games. Just wondering how some of the players I hadn't seen much of this pre-season (Aker, Hudson, Foley, McLeod, etc) had been going.

 

[nighthawk]

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My tip: (not worth as much as some others, but possibly worth a read for beginner types)

Quite often I seem to be questioned about the importance of consistency, and I've already had one rant on the consistency of a particular player in this thread. I think there are a few very simple things to understand about the issue.

Mainly, I agree that as long as you're willing to ride the ups and downs (and can fight the nerves of trading a player as mentioned in Skooks' tip), there is nothing wrong with an inconsistent bloke, and that the odd low score is worth it for a massive haul the next week. The only real time where consistency needs to be considered is in the first team you pick.

There will be plenty of opportunities to pick the up and down players throughout the season, so there's no real need to get them at the beginning. However, if you're after a player who seems to always hover around the same score, there's no benefit in waiting to buy him.

Basically, if you've already got a good idea of most of the strong players you want by season's end, start off by getting the consistent ones, and watch throughout the season for a chance to grab those who's prices rise and fall.

 

[crow87]

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Nighthawk, everytime I read one of your posts you gain more respect from me. Although I havent read too many of your posts on other topics, all of your DT thoughts seems spot on to me and you seem genuinely keen to give ppl a hand.
Just wanted to say good onya mate.
PS this goes for you too Stkildonan.

 

[cfc05]

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hahah i have said this plenty of times on the other threads this yr aswell nighthawk.

C Cornes is the prime example, who would you rather someone who can score anywhere between 50-150 and avaergae 95 OR
someone who get 70-90 every week averaging 80.

Of course Cornes!

 

[jbomb3000]

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hahah i have said this plenty of times on the other threads this yr aswell nighthawk.

C Cornes is the prime example, who would you rather someone who can score anywhere between 50-150 and avaergae 95 OR
someone who get 70-90 every week averaging 80.

Of course Cornes!

It's a valid ponit as long as your aiming to win the whole comp. On the other hand if your trying to win your league then consistency is probably more important.

 

[Big Member]

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It's a valid ponit as long as your aiming to win the whole comp. On the other hand if your trying to win your league then consistency is probably more important.

Exactly. Copping a low weekly score (and resultant loss) can be the difference between making the finals or not.

 

[espresso]

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Use this reference:

http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/afl.php

The site is run by the doctor who compiles the AFL injury report and is generally very accurate.

 

[footylover18]

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The decision is up to the individual.

It is extremely unlikely that anyone will outscore Jono Brown if he remains uninjured. If you work out how much each DT / SC point costs in dollar terms, Brown is not all that economical. He is however, the biggest scorer and so he helps you score the most. Basically that is what the game is all about - scoring the most.

My thoughts are that the key forwards, and talls in general, take three or four weeks to really hit their straps - therefore there is an opportunity to grab some of these players after they have knocked a little off their price, and about the time when they are beginning to outperform the smaller players who have already begun to rise in price.

I am not saying that Brown will definitely take three weeks to hit form, but it is a calculated risk to leave him out when you make your initial team, then put yourself in a position where you can capitalise on your calculated risk.
It does cost a very valuable trade though.

Decided to check your theory out.....

GUN key position players opening 3 round averages from last 2 yrs plus their season averages in brackets.

Nick Riewoldt:
2006: 81 (season ave: 88)........ -8%
2006: 96 (season ave: 97)........-1%

Johnathon Brown:
2005: 94 (started in round 6) (season ave: 86) +9%
2006: 95 (season ave: 110)......-13%

Barry Hall:
2005: 82 (season ave: 91)........-10%
2006: 94 (season ave: 91)........ + 3%

Matthew Pavlich:
2005: 89 (season ave: 91)........+2%
2006: 81 (season ave: 91)........-11%

Brendon Fevola:
2005: too crap to include in study
2006: 97 (season ave: 85).......+14%

Brad Johnson:
2005: 103 (season ave: 97).......+6%
2006: 102 (season ave: 100)......+2%


Putting together all the data. ie comparing the above players first 3 games for the past 2 yrs with their yearly averages, the result is interesting. Basically there is just over 1% difference between the opening 3 games averages and the season averages, ie they are virtually identical. Obviously the study isnt perfect but I don't think there is any considerable evidence that gun key position players start considerably slowly compared to what they end up doing for the yr.


Fantasy Implications =you might be waiting a while if you're expecting some of the gun players to drop a lot in price.