AFC Recruiting

[Stiffy_18]

I think its time we took our recruiting overseas as well. Why wouldn't we be keeping an eye on a few youngsters in Ireland?????? Obviously the expenses would be much higher if we drafted a rookie from overseas. The kid would be guaranteed to stay on the rookie list for a couple of years and the club would really need to make him feel as comfortable as possible. Its a lot of hard work and a fair bit of investment but would it be worth it if we can pick up someone like Stynes or Kennelly??????

I think this would be one way that the club can get a bargain pick up. Obviously there will have to be a lot of investment in the rookie and development coach would have to spend a lot of hours with the kid.

Should we go international with our recruiting??????

 

[DaveW]

Once you go to the trouble of bringing the guy over... How do you make sure another club wouldn't nab the Irishman in the draft?

 

[Jerome]

No. We've already been putting $$ into the NSW league and what has that got us?

We've just made a commitment to developing talent in SA through the SANFL clubs. We should be concentrating on that, thats our bread and butter stuff IMO.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by DaveW
Once you go to the trouble of bringing the guy over... How do you make sure another club wouldn't nab the Irishman in the draft?

Unless clubs have spoken to the Irishman they will not pick him up as it is too much of a risk. Club's don't pick up players they know little about. So one picked Kennelly, and that new bloke at Carlton. I think if we wanted a particular Irish lad and we convinced him to come to Adelaide, the other clubs will overlook him.

I am not sure if there are particular rules that apply to Rookie Listing Irishman. They generally last until clubs last pick in the Rookie Draft.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jerome
No. We've already been putting $$ into the NSW league and what has that got us?

We've just made a commitment to developing talent in SA through the SANFL clubs. We should be concentrating on that, thats our bread and butter stuff IMO.

Jerome its a completely different matter. In the case of getting an Irishman from Ireland involves investment in player only not a league (maybe for a scout as well).

The cases you are mentioning are instances where we have pumped in $$ into leagues. As proud of the club I am for investing into the grass roots footy in SA, I still see no benefit to the AFC. Its not like we get to pick the best player from the SA because we have put money in for their development. we get no compensation what so ever for pumping $$ into the development of youth in SANFL clubs. It might be our bread and butter stuff but we get no return from it. We pay the money to develop those kids only to see then get picked up by interstate clubs. We got no compensation picks for our "investment".

The expenses we would encounter in getting an Irishman is relocation costs and the expenses we endure for every other draftee on our list. We might have to have someone on our pay roll in Ireland but one would imagine is would be peanuts as the league over there is not proffesional. I think its very much worth considering especially if a club finishes high up the ladder and gets ordinary picks. I think this is the way that we could possibly land a gun Rookie Draft.

 

[macca23]

Geez Stiffy. We struggle to pick the right ones when they're in our own back yard.

Nothing wrong with your idea at all. I'd just like to get our local selections right first.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
Geez Stiffy. We struggle to pick the right ones when they're in our own back yard.

Nothing wrong with your idea at all. I'd just like to get our local selections right first.

But the beauty of picking up an Irishman is that it only costs you a spot on the Rookie List. Now honestly how many Rookie Listed players in the league make it?????? I mean who would you rather have on a Rookie List, Matthew Smith or some raw Irish kid??????

I think one of the rules with Irish Rookies is that you must keep them rookie listed for 2 years, that way they are at least guaranteed to have a decent crack at it.

I think the idea is worth exploring and really it won't cost us much in terms of draft picks as it is only a rookie pick anyway.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18


I mean who would you rather have on a Rookie List, Matthew Smith or some raw Irish kid??????

Well when you put it that way, Stiffy, the argument becomes irresistible!!

I'd rather have the Irish kid's aunty instead of Matthew Smith.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
Well when you put it that way, Stiffy, the argument becomes irresistible!!

I'd rather have the Irish kid's aunty instead of Matthew Smith.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
The cases you are mentioning are instances where we have pumped in $$ into leagues. As proud of the club I am for investing into the grass roots footy in SA, I still see no benefit to the AFC. Its not like we get to pick the best player from the SA because we have put money in for their development. we get no compensation what so ever for pumping $$ into the development of youth in SANFL clubs. It might be our bread and butter stuff but we get no return from it. We pay the money to develop those kids only to see then get picked up by interstate clubs. We got no compensation picks for our "investment".

There is no direct benefit to the AFC.
A club that says it represents all Sth Australians, is abiding by that creed and supporting the Sth Australian community. The SANFL is a cornerstone to sport in SA, and sport is an important ingedient to the culture of Sth Australia.
I appaud the Crows for being so community minded, in supporting so strongly the local competition.
The indirect benefit is that the Crows is that when players want to return to their local community, they will invariably prefer to play with the club that represents that community, and that's the Crows.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
There is no direct benefit to the AFC.
A club that says it represents all Sth Australians, is abiding by that creed and supporting the Sth Australian community. The SANFL is a cornerstone to sport in SA, and sport is an important ingedient to the culture of Sth Australia.
I appaud the Crows for being so community minded, in supporting so strongly the local competition.
The indirect benefit is that the Crows is that when players want to return to their local community, they will invariably prefer to play with the club that represents that community, and that's the Crows.

I was refering to us not getting conpensated in terms of Draft Picks.

If a player want to return to their local community, it will be to the club that puts together the best package for the player in terms of opportunities and money. If you are a player looking to further develop and get more opporunities while returning home, would you choose the Crows if you know you will be stuck behind a few players that play the same position or would you got to Port for example where they have a shortage of the type of player that you are. I think thats a simple enough case.

While I am all in favour of AFC pumping $$ into the grass root footy, it really has no impact what so ever on our recruiting. The only benefit it offers is that it provides us with an opportunity to get some youngsters to support AFC and hopefully in time they become members. Thats the long term benefit that the club might have from this but we get a big fat zero in terms of recruiting players.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Should we go international with our recruiting??????

Stiffy, it sounds like your after some sponsorship from AFC to fund your next trip to the next European junior basketball championships!

 

[RaDaR ReiLLy]

Yes we should. Wouldnt mind getting someone with a really strong irish accent.

Connor from Neighbours!

 

[Stiffy_18]

Re: Re: AFC Recruiting

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Stiffy, it sounds like your after some sponsorship from AFC to fund your next trip to the next European junior basketball championships!

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