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dummies aren't interpreting what the educated have said right from the get goWell i hope your right and all 7 become A graders and we have 2 of them
You think generally this draft is being under estimated at the top end a bit then?
I guess not necessarily wanting a different player to Tsatas or Andy but having both outside the top 10?
Well i hope your right and all 7 become A graders and we have 2 of them
You think generally this draft is being under estimated at the top end a bit then?
I guess not necessarily wanting a different player to Tsatas or Andy but having both outside the top 10?
Agree,it's just doesn't make sense to allocate resources that way. used a top 10 pick basically on a small forward last year, let's try to find. we are also taking sweid and probably HEA ends up on some part of the list. that's two more players who are small and can play forward. we took Kako and unwin last year along with day-wicks who is also small and can play forward. you can't just keep drafting smalls who play forward until you get the best one in the comp with as many holes as we have.
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Ive hearddummies aren't interpreting what the educated have said right from the get go
The same thing has been echoed all year, the draft lacks a fair bit of star power but was always seen to have a fair bit of depth in whatever role you want.
If this actually happened I’d burn down AFL house. Highway robberyDream scenario is ;
Robey, Sharp, Farrow (15 after moving up), Sweid & Huss
I dont share the same views, of the open pool guys Duursma, CDT and Robey look capable of being genuine top end players, anything after that appear at best AFL role players. Ni disgrace on that, each has something unique about them but I dont think many are jumping off the page to become top liners at the next level.Ive heard
'Top end quality' isnt seen to be there. That doesnt ring exactly true with the top 7 being all A graders imo
Someones going to be found incorrect here. I hope it isnt RBB for our sake
oh man, I would absolutely be locking us in as 2028 premiership favoties hahahahaIf this actually happened I’d burn down AFL house. Highway robbery
What are some comparitive (non talls) role players for you? (Try keep it to front half ground)I dont share the same views, of the open pool guys Duursma, CDT and Robey look capable of being genuine top end players, anything after that appear at best AFL role players. Ni disgrace on that, each has something unique about them but I dont think many are jumping off the page to become top liners at the next level.
this is the thing with how much shit the list is in,Agree,
Think thats why we will look favourably at guys like Robey and Cumming, who start their careers as fwds but then ultimatly eye is to the future in them becoming onballers
I think our midfield has to be of greatest priority
At this moment you could almost put a line through
Shiel
Setters
Hobbs
Perkins
Parish
Tsatas
You couldnt be confident in any of the 3 still on the list right now and the top 3 are gone
Z.Merrett?
Has to be taken into consideration aswell. Is he asking to leave again in 12 months, youd have to think thats a very reasonable propositon
To me there is difference between A graders and the superstar class.Ive heard
'Top end quality' isnt seen to be there. That doesnt ring exactly true with the top 7 being all A graders imo
Someones going to be found incorrect here. I hope it isnt RBB for our sake
A fair few ofthis is the thing with how much shit the list is in,
we have the same problem with key forwards/third forwards. Who is going to jump off the page and lock down a spot?
I feel we have 1 to many key/3rd forwards but thats another issue for another time.
Alex Neale-Bullen, Shaun Manage, Zac Guthrie, Cal Ah Chee, Ryan Lester etc.What are some comparitve (non talls) role players for you?
Are we talking Durham/Caldwell levels
what about CDT is not a genetic outlier? a rig of a 200cm 18 year old who runs low 6min 2k and sub 3 second 20m (generated 5 shots on goal in his only game against men). shame robey and sharp didn't test. but they both pass the eye test as elite athletic prospects. x taylor tested very well, quick, evasive and competitive. i really don't see this draft not having star potential.I understand the rating of the draft. Very few players that have the traits to be bullies, as in unstoppable based on their physical attributes. A large percentage of stars are genetic outliers, unmatchable players in one on one context, which I think most drafts are rated on. But a large percentage also aren't and just are well rounded guys without many weaknesses who are consistent.
I don't really like to rank players, I either want or don't want. Lots of failed players would have been successes in different context. I think McGrath would have been a raging success at GWS. Likewise Taranto at Brisbane. In the context of where our list is, we could do with all of these guys and have the foundations support their success.
Is be happy with any of those guys at 5 or 6To me there is difference between A graders and the superstar class.
Guys like Sidebottom, Crisp, Dunkley, Holmes, Kelly, Serong, Brayshaw are A graders and this is the class of player avaliable, if you're lucky a guy like this can transcend to Neale or Butters and be a genuine star. But they are clearly a level below your freak talents Greene, Cameron, Martin, or recent draftees like Reid, JHF, Daicos which is what is missing from the draft class.
The dynasty teams either have a superstar player or they bat really deep.To me there is difference between A graders and the superstar class.
Guys like Sidebottom, Crisp, Dunkley, Holmes, Kelly, Serong, Brayshaw are A graders and this is the class of player avaliable, if you're lucky a guy like this can transcend to Neale or Butters and be a genuine star. But they are clearly a level below your freak talents Greene, Cameron, Martin, or recent draftees like Reid, JHF, Daicos which is what is missing from the draft class.
Alex Neale-Bullen, Shaun Manage, Zac Guthrie, Cal Ah Chee, Ryan Lester etc.
See there is a huge gap between those, which is why definitions need to be asked. This shows that haGuys like Sidebottom, Crisp, Dunkley, Holmes, Kelly, Serong, BrBrayshaw
absolutely, that problem needs to be answered at the end of 2026, no point trying to solve that problem now when so many other areas of concern are still needing to be fixed.A fair few of
Blakiston
Mcmahon
Gerryn
A.May
T.Edwards
Cox
Will be gone in 12 months
H.Jones
24 months
Agree except for May. Think he might have something.A fair few of
Blakiston
Mcmahon
Gerryn
A.May
T.Edwards
Cox
Will be gone in 12 months
H.Jones
24 months
our current role players have been Jaxon Prior, Ben Hobbs, Matt Guelfi, Jade Gresham, Jayden LaverdeSee there is a huge gap between those, which is why definitions need to be asked. This shows that ha
Im unhappy taking any of that top group, im stoked with any of the bottom group at 5 or 6
Is interesting the CDT talk thoughabsolutely, that problem needs to be answered at the end of 2026, no point trying to solve that problem now when so many other areas of concern are still needing to be fixed.
what about CDT is not a genetic outlier? a rig of a 200cm 18 year old who runs low 6min 2k and sub 3 second 20m (generated 5 shots on goal in his only game against men). shame robey and sharp didn't test. but they both pass the eye test as elite athletic prospects. x taylor tested very well, quick, evasive and competitive. i really don't see this draft not having star potential.
of the same opinion. If he slipped to us, great ! im not selling the farm for him thoughIs interesting the CDT talk though
I dont mind if he falls into our lap at 5 but im not giving up anything more than 6 + 21 for him at 2 as the major basis of a deal
I’m saying use 5&15 on midfielders and 6 on Dovaston. There’s a chance Barker, Farrow or Greeves are still available at 15.it's just doesn't make sense to allocate resources that way. used a top 10 pick basically on a small forward last year, let's try to find. we are also taking sweid and probably HEA ends up on some part of the list. that's two more players who are small and can play forward. we took Kako and unwin last year along with day-wicks who is also small and can play forward. you can't just keep drafting smalls who play forward until you get the best one in the comp with as many holes as we have.
Robey did testwhat about CDT is not a genetic outlier? a rig of a 200cm 18 year old who runs low 6min 2k and sub 3 second 20m (generated 5 shots on goal in his only game against men). shame robey and sharp didn't test. but they both pass the eye test as elite athletic prospects. x taylor tested very well, quick, evasive and competitive. i really don't see this draft not having star potential.