Certified Legendary Thread Alastair Clarksons.

[King Corey]

Have no hunch or 1st hand ITK.

Seems far-fetched though that we ran a review that halfway in validated suspicions so much to force the senior coach out immediately - yet didn't already have a well developed plan on how we'd find a replacement.

I can't imagine the board finished Noble on a Monday evening then all looked blankly at each other saying "what next?" as if they suddenly realised they needed a selection panel.

 

[Lomas]

Have no hunch or 1st hand ITK.

Seems far-fetched though that we ran a review that halfway in validated suspicions so much to force the senior coach out immediately - yet didn't already have a well developed plan on how we'd find a replacement.

I can't imagine the board finished Noble on a Monday evening then all looked blankly at each other saying "what next?" as if they suddenly realised they needed a selection panel.

Yep, it isn't like we are the British government.

 

[Del191229]

And?

Imo what we are watching is a soft launch of Clarko as North coach.

It is a very common practice in contemporary media.

If Clarko was still iffy, no chance Ponting's manager advises him to damage his brand by doing this.

It's theatre.

 

[King Corey]

Yep, it isn't like we are the British government.

UK giving Sri Lanka a run for the #1 pick this year?

 

[Event Horizon]

Imo what we are watching is a soft launch of Clarko as North coach.

It is a very common practice in contemporary media.

If Clarko was still iffy, no chance Ponting's manager advises him to damage his brand by doing this.

It's theatre.

But why do you think it needs a "soft launch"? Who would be driving it? Not the club, surely, as we have nothing to hide. We've removed the previous coach and can legitimately start our process, and having the best coach available means we may not need to waste our time on others. If we can convince him, we sort out all the details, and attend to Geoff Walsh's review with Clarko involved in the process of making new appointments.

Why do we need a soft launch as if we have something to hide?

 

[Lomas]

UK giving Sri Lanka a run for the #1 pick this year?

It's certainly tight, especially now that the Philippines went down the father son route.

 

[ferball]

For you The acurate one

 

[King Corey]

But why do you think it needs a "soft launch"?

Summarising general sentiment above:

• The club and Clarkson don't want to artificially put Noble's blood on his hands; the decision to remove Noble was already in play but both parties might be aware how quickly the media would love to jump in and join dots that aren't there if they just move on immediately
• The club are massaging the (unfair) perception that they haven't been rigorous enough about previous coaching recruitment process based on (again, unfair) PR damage from the Shaw appointment. So have decided to either be seen to run or actually running a quick exercise on what they need and how they'll get it, even though appointing Clarkson would be close to a no-brainer if he was gettable. Once bitten and all that.

 

[DesertRoo]

Imo what we are watching is a soft launch of Clarko as North coach.

It is a very common practice in contemporary media.

If Clarko was still iffy, no chance Ponting's manager advises him to damage his brand by doing this.

It's theatre.

The biggest question is who paid for lunch,
Was it Clarko and Punters management team?
Was it a north coterie group?
Punter?
Channel 7 so they could have an exclusive?
Answer that question you’ll probably find out why the fook this is a story..

 

[The acurate one]

But why do you think it needs a "soft launch"? Who would be driving it? Not the club, surely, as we have nothing to hide. We've removed the previous coach and can legitimately start our process, and having the best coach available means we may not need to waste our time on others. If we can convince him, we sort out all the details, and attend to Geoff Walsh's review with Clarko involved in the process of making new appointments.

Why do we need a soft launch as if we have something to hide?

Yep would be amazed if that is the current thought process. One of if not the biggest name in football and we want to ease our way into it.

If anything I'd suggest we're not sure/He's not sure. Al has his baggage apparently, well as we keep hearing.

When you business is football and you're the current laughing stock, hiding the appointment of someone of Al's standing is broadline mental and if anything makes you look more foolish. Whoever thought that currently was a possibility.

Oh well

 

[DocSholl]

Highly doubt Ponting would be talking about how Clarko is a great fit etc if he didn't already know there was interest and/or likelihood. It was always going to make the news and they share a manager.

 

[The acurate one]

For you The acurate one

Freaking awesome man- thanks

 

[Del191229]

But why do you think it needs a "soft launch"? Who would be driving it? Not the club, surely, as we have nothing to hide. We've removed the previous coach and can legitimately start our process, and having the best coach available means we may not need to waste our time on others. If we can convince him, we sort out all the details, and attend to Geoff Walsh's review with Clarko involved in the process of making new appointments.

Why do we need a soft launch as if we have something to hide?

First and foremost this process puts the necessary distance between Noble going and Clarko arriving, for reasons discussed above

Also we will want to formally announce him on a day when we get biggest bang for buck.

Bye week before finals for mine

Walsh review isn't finished, so he can't publicly implement it, but can be briefed behind scenes.

I also reckon the only loose end is how much of his money we pay and how much the AFL pays

That'll be part of the priority assistance negotiations we've just opened

 

[shintemaster]

Summarising general sentiment above:

• The club and Clarkson don't want to artificially put Noble's blood on his hands; the decision to remove Noble was already in play but both parties might be aware how quickly the media would love to jump in and join dots that aren't there if they just move on immediately
• The club are massaging the (unfair) perception that they haven't been rigorous enough about previous coaching recruitment process based on (again, unfair) PR damage from the Shaw appointment. So have decided to either be seen to run or actually running a quick exercise on what they need and how they'll get it, even though appointing Clarkson would be close to a no-brainer if he was gettable. Once bitten and all that.

Option 3: The club would like the AFL to commit more firmly to support (picks, soft cap, coaching money - whatever) before announcing that they'd lured the biggest coaching name in the last 2 decades. Indeed, the club may be wanting specific support to make the package to Clarkson right.

It's likely a bit of all 3 but I don't overly rate the perception about process. Any club that didn't take Clarko in a position like ours is kidding themselves whether it works or not. Tick box process is a bit of whatever for mine.

 

[Event Horizon]

Yep would be amazed if that is the current thought process. One of if not the biggest name in football and we want to ease our way into it.

If anything I'd suggest we're not sure/He's not sure. Al has his baggage apparently, well as we keep hearing.

When you business is football and you're the current laughing stock, hiding the appointment of someone of Al's standing is broadline mental and if anything makes you look more foolish. Whoever thought that currently was a possibility.

Oh well

That's exactly how I read it

 

[King Corey]

Option 3: The club would like the AFL to commit more firmly to support (picks, soft cap, coaching money - whatever) before announcing that they'd lured the biggest coaching name in the last 2 decades. Indeed, the club may be wanting specific support to make the package to Clarkson right.

It's likely a bit of all 3 but I don't overly rate the perception about process. Any club that didn't take Clarko in a position like ours is kidding themselves whether it works or not. Tick box process is a bit of whatever for mine.

Interesting thought but would blackmailing the AFL using the threat we might away from Clarkson seems a hell of a gamble?

The football club equivalent of a hunger strike.

 

[shintemaster]

Interesting thought but would blackmailing the AFL using the threat we might away from Clarkson seems a hell of a gamble?

The football club equivalent of a hunger strike.

Not blackmail. Just trying to ensure that the AFL commit to what assistance they are wiling to contribute - on or off field - before we make commitments. I think it's not unreasonable to know whether we will have say an extra 4 x 18 year olds in need of development coaching vs access to 4 mature AFL players in their prime before deciding how we allocate limited resources.

 

[Event Horizon]

Not blackmail. Just trying to ensure that the AFL commit to what assistance they are wiling to contribute - on or off field - before we make commitments. I think it's not unreasonable to know whether we will have say an extra 4 x 18 year olds in need of development coaching vs access to 4 mature AFL players in their prime before deciding how we allocate limited resources.

I don't think that's how you land Clarkson. If he feels that we are not 100% sold on him he may well push back on the role and choose to sit out one more year.

 

[Heaps of fun]

I can't read but are people saying it's happening?

 

[King Corey]

Not blackmail. Just trying to ensure that the AFL commit to what assistance they are wiling to contribute - on or off field - before we make commitments. I think it's not unreasonable to know whether we will have say an extra 4 x 18 year olds in need of development coaching vs access to 4 mature AFL players in their prime before deciding how we allocate limited resources.

It'd be worth it to see if we could milk something out of it but ultimately if the AFL said "nah, actually you can gagf" would we not sign Clarkson as a retaliation?

 

[shintemaster]

I don't think that's how you land Clarkson. If he feels that we are not 100% sold on him he may well push back on the role and choose to sit out one more year.

I'm not for a minute suggesting we would still not be 100% in on him if that's what we want. It would be nice to be able to tell him what we can provide around him, what the list mix will be etc.

I'd love to know by COB today that he was coming, hell, I'd be happy if he started in an advisory style role this week to start laying his groundwork but at the end of the day it feels like this thread is more about us wanting to know than what process works for coach and club.

 

[The acurate one]

I can't read but are people saying it's happening?

Oh you best believe it has happened, we're just not telling anyone as yet.

Not even Al!!

How hush, hush is that? Jokes on Al he'll be going for other jobs and we've signed him lol Al

 

[Crazy Horse]

Yep would be amazed if that is the current thought process. One of if not the biggest name in football and we want to ease our way into it.

If anything I'd suggest we're not sure/He's not sure. Al has his baggage apparently, well as we keep hearing.

When you business is football and you're the current laughing stock, hiding the appointment of someone of Al's standing is broadline mental and if anything makes you look more foolish. Whoever thought that currently was a possibility.

Oh well

If this board needs a Yes Man as coach then we need a new board.

If we are going to succeed then we need people in the organisation who can cope with a few home truths. Passing up on Clarkson because he has a reputation for being difficult would be a total dereliction of duty.

 

[Elite Master]

What a man. Imagine him mindlessly repeating to Huddo that Zurhaar needs a run in the ruck to get some touches and confidence.

He did that all the time with insert player's name here when he was working with Huddo in the channel 10 days.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

They share the same manager mate.

This stuff isn't throwaway lines.

That can be true, and so can a comment that it’s being made too much of.