Alcoholism!

[The Dice Man]

What is it exactly?

I remember someone who drunk 2 wines a day could be considered an alcoholic, this was circa 1997.

Have we grown enough to understand alcoholism cannot be measured in drinks drunk, but instead realised that it should be judged on why drinks are drunk.

I bring this topic up as I believe its something not spoken of much lately, yet is still a massive killer/destroyer/handcuffer of lives.


When does a social activity become a dangerous addiction?

I ask because Ive noticed myself lately finding it harder to be able to resist the idea of having a drink. Now I dont think this is because my body craves it, I think it's because I find it hard to find excitement in everyday things.. Im kinda numb.

So today I realised Im probably an alcoholic, Ive suspected I was an alcoholic since the second I stopped being a drug addict.

I simply stopped one anti social behavior for another.


This thread isnt designed so you can have a shot at me, or at anyone. Its about understanding exactly what alcoholism means, what it is and the effects it can have on your life, both intimatley, and on a society level.


I believe Im probably an alcoholic. But I dont bash women, I dont smash cars, I dont commit crimes under the influence and I dont wear black moccosins and Faberges and listen to AC/DC. Nor do I sit on the beach and drink goon. I have a job (ironically for Australia's largest alcohol supplier) and am trying to earn more.


So........what is alcoholism?

 

[Richo83]

Alcohol for me equals an addiction to alcohol, basically meaning you are bound to have a drink, in which the body is forced to to feel better. This means that the body craves the sensation of alcohol, and feels better when you have had it.

Do you find that you have to drink more to feel better? When you said that youfound it hard to find exitement in everyday things, it sounded like you were bored with your current alcohol intake, it didn't do anything, so you wanted more.

I don't think that alcoholics = reckless disfunctioning people like the stereotype you put up, but alcoholism does limit your ability to act and connedt with society, as alcohol stuffs you up in large quantities.

It happenned to a friend of mine, tried more and more alcohol to see if it would give him that better sensation.

If two drinks a day means your an alcoholic, i'm a 17 year old alcoholic

 

[The Dice Man]

When you said that youfound it hard to find exitement in everyday things, it sounded like you were bored with your current alcohol intake, it didn't do anything, so you wanted more.

No not at all bored with my everyday alcohol intake, moreso depressed by it. I dont drink everyday, but I find after 3 or 4 days without it, then Im bored and cant find something satisfactory to entertain me that doesnt hurt me.

Thats the numbness I speak of, there aint alot in the world that excites or interests me. Its like alcohol becomes a kind of 'numbing agent' to make these times pass. And that is what I mean by my own disappointment.

I don't think that alcoholics = reckless disfunctioning people like the stereotype you put up, but alcoholism does limit your ability to act and connedt with society, as alcohol stuffs you up in large quantities.

Of course not. Alcoholism covers so many different people in so many different circusmtances, cliches, industries, and acceptances that it is not so simple to define... hence the thread.

 

[Hotdog Man]

What is it exactly?

I remember someone who drunk 2 wines a day could be considered an alcoholic, this was circa 1997.

Have we grown enough to understand alcoholism cannot be measured in drinks drunk, but instead realised that it should be judged on why drinks are drunk.

I bring this topic up as I believe its something not spoken of much lately, yet is still a massive killer/destroyer/handcuffer of lives.


When does a social activity become a dangerous addiction?

I ask because Ive noticed myself lately finding it harder to be able to resist the idea of having a drink. Now I dont think this is because my body craves it, I think it's because I find it hard to find excitement in everyday things.. Im kinda numb.

So today I realised Im probably an alcoholic, Ive suspected I was an alcoholic since the second I stopped being a drug addict.

I simply stopped one anti social behavior for another.


This thread isnt designed so you can have a shot at me, or at anyone. Its about understanding exactly what alcoholism means, what it is and the effects it can have on your life, both intimatley, and on a society level.


I believe Im probably an alcoholic. But I dont bash women, I dont smash cars, I dont commit crimes under the influence and I dont wear black moccosins and Faberges and listen to AC/DC. Nor do I sit on the beach and drink goon. I have a job (ironically for Australia's largest alcohol supplier) and am trying to earn more.


So........what is alcoholism?

If it affects your relationship with the one's you love, then there's a problem.

Otherwise go for it.

 

[nicky]

i believe there a degrees of alcohol problems-
anyone who feels they need to drink in social situations has an acohol problem.
anyone who then doesn't know when to stop has an alcohol problem
anyone who needs to drink everyday has an alcohol problem
and then there are the obvious alcoholics

 

[The Dice Man]

i believe there a degrees of alcohol problems-
anyone who feels they need to drink in social situations has an acohol problem.
anyone who then doesn't know when to stop has an alcohol problem
anyone who needs to drink everyday has an alcohol problem
and then there are the obvious alcoholics

I dont fit into any of your categories nicky.

 

[nicky]

I dont fit into any of your categories nicky.

well then in my books you're fine, unless you have a problem i haven't thought of

 

[The Dice Man]

well then in my books you're fine, unless you have a problem i haven't thought of

Hmm, unless you consider kicking it instead of the usual shaking it a problem, then I dont have a problem either

 

[nicky]

Hmm, unless you consider kicking it instead of the usual shaking it a problem, then I dont have a problem either

doesn't that fit into 'not knowing when to stop?

 

[The Dice Man]

doesn't that fit into 'not knowing when to stop?

Hey slow down baby.. S & M aint my thing.

 

[nicky]

Hey slow down baby.. S & M aint my thing.

okay then you're out

seriously what do you mean by kicking it?

 

[The Dice Man]

okay then you're out

seriously what do you mean by kicking it?

Was a bad joke

 

[rick James]

hmmm depends, sometimes i thoroughly enjoy drinking WAAAAAAY past my limits just for the feeling i get. don't feel compelled to do it, I just LIKE doing it.

 

[The Dice Man]

hmmm depends, sometimes i thoroughly enjoy drinking WAAAAAAY past my limits just for the feeling i get. don't feel compelled to do it, I just LIKE doing it.

Am I drunk or is the dude in your avatar holding four aces? And why is he so bloody happy???

 

[nicky]

hmmm depends, sometimes i thoroughly enjoy drinking WAAAAAAY past my limits just for the feeling i get. don't feel compelled to do it, I just LIKE doing it.

my bro asked me 'don't realise that you're at the point and you've had enought?'

he's naturally a controlled person and he can't understand someone drinking to the point where they're out of control

 

[IntheNet]

What is it exactly?

Fondness for drink; specifically, when you throw a bottle of beer at the wife then castigate self for wasting good beer! That's alcoholism! Also; you get an mini-orgasm when you hear Bud is releasing 18-bottle cases! That too is a sign of alcoholism.

 

[The Dice Man]

Also; you get an mini-orgasm when you hear Bud is releasing 18-bottle cases! That too is a sign of alcoholism.

But 18 is 6 less than 24... Why would I micro-orgasm over such a loss

 

[nicky]

But 18 is 6 less than 24... Why would I micro-orgasm over such a loss

maybe he meant reverse orgasm if there is such a thing

 

[JW Frogen]

Alcoholism is like Jazz.

If you have to ask what it is, you will never know.

 

[The Dice Man]

maybe he meant reverse orgasm if there is such a thing

Heroin comes to mind. Ive nevcer done it but the impression that I get is of a reverse orgasm.

 

[nicky]

Heroin comes to mind. Ive nevcer done it but the impression that I get is of a reverse orgasm.

no! a reverse orgasm is when you're in a situation and someone brings up a sexual idea and the thought of it makes your skin crawl and an urge to throw up. because you're not attracted to them

heroin is supposed to be good, remember in trainspotting 'it's so good its better than sex!' hahaha

unless your doing the theory of relativity train of thought when you go so fast that you go backwards

okay i'm going off on a tangent

 

[Owizee]

I ask because Ive noticed myself lately finding it harder to be able to resist the idea of having a drink. Now I dont think this is because my body craves it, I think it's because I find it hard to find excitement in everyday things.. Im kinda numb.

So today I realised Im probably an alcoholic, Ive suspected I was an alcoholic since the second I stopped being a drug addict.

I simply stopped one anti social behavior for another.

Most people have an addiction. Some are addicted to food, some to drink, some to drugs and others are addicted to pr0n. Both are related to your first point. Looking for something to kill the boredom, looking for excitement. Modern life has made us want more , but we dont know what we want more of. More bling, more money, more excitement or just more noise. We believe we need to be on the go 24/7 so we aim for that and when we fail to live the 24/7 life we think we are missing something. Alcohol kills the waiting time. Eating food makes us fat and in that way we can avoid having to live the 24/7 life.

 

[skilts]

Alcoholism is a WORD, like Catholicism, Communism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Fascism, Pantheism, Socialism, Rationalism, Imperialism, Existentialism and Bhuddism.

To say that one is an "alcoholic", is to describe oneself in a one-dimensional fashion. So also, would all of the above-mentioned appellations, if they had the suffix, "ist".

None of these labels will ever be adequate to the task of describing what it is to be human, especially for someone who thinks he/she drinks too much.

 

[The Dice Man]

Alcoholism is a WORD, like Catholicism, Communism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Fascism, Pantheism, Socialism, Rationalism, Imperialism, Existentialism and Bhuddism.

To say that one is an 'alcoholic', is to describe oneself in a one-dimensional fashion. So also, would all of the above-mentioned appellations, if they had the suffix, "ist".

None of these labels will ever be adequate to the task of describing what it is to be human, especially for someone who thinks he/she drinks too much.

Okay..... so how do you feel about alcoholist then?

 

[nicky]

Alcoholism is a WORD, like Catholicism, Communism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Fascism, Pantheism, Socialism, Rationalism, Imperialism, Existentialism and Bhuddism.

To say that one is an "alcoholic", is to describe oneself in a one-dimensional fashion. So also, would all of the above-mentioned appellations, if they had the suffix, "ist".

None of these labels will ever be adequate to the task of describing what it is to be human, especially for someone who thinks he/she drinks too much.

do you think it would be more pc to say 'there goes a person with alcoholic tendencies?'