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yepits2020 said:
Rubbish. We must persist with him. You would think he was the only one that had a bad kick. Based on your view of Moore, only three players would be left in the team.
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Rubbish. He is so vanilla. For a player of his size, he should be crashing packs and getting the ball out to our running players.

If we persist with Moore, we are rewarding mediocrity.
 

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I tell you what guys. With our poorly performing mid field, if people like Moore and Young are no good, then we have three years of building ahead of us. We have a few hundred small half back flankers and a forward flanker who is shy of Jennifer Hawkins let alone AFL players on body contact. Guys, we are screwed.

Well, I am hopeful that everything will click into place in 2016.
 
Footy Matt said:
I still have no idea how this guy was scouted at pick #9. What the hell were the recruiters thinking?
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The Williams pet prototype. Size and versatility.

Still think we persist. Who played well today? Anyone?
 
I've never been an Andrew Moore fan. Have always thought he was overrated on here. However, I've been willing to keep trying him in the first team simply because we still need a big bodied mid in our side apart from Wines to win the contested ball. What has struck me about Moore is that I refer to him as a "dumb footballer." By that, I'm saying that he was no spatial awareness and is slow to make decisions. This generally means he's a step or two behind the play, leading to increased pressure when he gets the ball, resulting in generally a rushed disposal (i.e. not optimal). To add to that, his defensive pressure is just non-existent at times. Gets caught ball watching. Attached is a photo I took today at the game. To me, it summed up why Moore needs to go.

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Let me put this into context for you. At the start of the 4th quarter, just before the bounce, the Dogs had an unmarked man in their forward line just on the 50m arc. Wingard was playing as an extra man behind the ball who would rush through the middle of the ground at the opening bounce. Moore was on the right wing (relative to the direction we were kicking). Wingard was pointing, shouting, pretty much losing the plot at Moore to man the extra Dog forward up. Moore acknowledged Wingard, started to go closer to the man, yet as soon as the bounce started, Moore left the man and ran straight into the centre square. Sure enough, the ball gets out to the dogs runners on the outside, and straight to the man that Moore should have been marking. He then kicked the ball to the top of the square which resulted in a mark and goal (I think it was to Redpath). Sure enough, both sides reset their structures and go back to the middle. The photo above was taken as the ball was bounced after the goal. What it shows is Moore going into the square, giving the same Dogs forward a good 30 metres of space, not to mention the space in behind him. It shows how non accountable Moore was today. Is he that bloody thick between the ears? I know we're chasing the game, but there is no way that Ken structurally designed it such that Moore is leaving that guy all alone at the start of the centre bounce. Pissed me off even more so given that Wingard gave him an earful to pick up the man and he ignored it the first time, and then at this bounce. It sums up how we played today.

I personally hope he never plays for the club at the AFL level again. I've had a gut full of him.
 
Footy Matt said:
I still have no idea how this guy was scouted at pick #9. What the hell were the recruiters thinking?
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Talent in junior levels and lower leagues doesn't always correlate to success at higher levels thus you'll always get the odd nuffie in the top 10 of the draft, I'm not a fan of Andrew but he had a ton of mates today playing just as shite.
 
Chewy316 said:
Let me put this into context for you. At the start of the 4th quarter, just before the bounce, the Dogs had an unmarked man in their forward line just on the 50m arc. Wingard was playing as an extra man behind the ball who would rush through the middle of the ground at the opening bounce. Moore was on the right wing (relative to the direction we were kicking). Wingard was pointing, shouting, pretty much losing the plot at Moore to man the extra Dog forward up. Moore acknowledged Wingard, started to go closer to the man, yet as soon as the bounce started, Moore left the man and ran straight into the centre square. Sure enough, the ball gets out to the dogs runners on the outside, and straight to the man that Moore should have been marking. He then kicked the ball to the top of the square which resulted in a mark and goal (I think it was to Redpath). Sure enough, both sides reset their structures and go back to the middle. The photo above was taken as the ball was bounced after the goal. What it shows is Moore going into the square, giving the same Dogs forward a good 30 metres of space, not to mention the space in behind him. It shows how non accountable Moore was today. Is he that bloody thick between the ears? I know we're chasing the game, but there is no way that Ken structurally designed it such that Moore is leaving that guy all alone at the start of the centre bounce. Pissed me off even more so given that Wingard gave him an earful to pick up the man and he ignored it the first time, and then at this bounce. It sums up how we played today.
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This sounds like what I saw from him live against Essendon. Heppell got away from him at the clearances far too easily on numerous occasions.

The third level at Etihad Stadium is a great place to sit if you want to learn which players are working hard and smart defensively and which ones aren't. Andrew Moore doesn't.
 

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Jarryd Lyons is a natural footballer, not as big or as fast but is the sort of player we need imo
 
yepits2020 said:
I tell you what guys. With our poorly performing mid field, if people like Moore and Young are no good, then we have three years of building ahead of us. We have a few hundred small half back flankers and a forward flanker who is shy of Jennifer Hawkins let alone AFL players on body contact. Guys, we are screwed.

Well, I am hopeful that everything will click into place in 2016.
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We do have a fair way to get our list depth up to standard.
We're still one very good, consistent midfielder short of what is required (even with Wines and Polec in the side), while we all know that we lack a really good power forward.

Then there is the need to find at least one player on the list with stopping ability through the midfield.
 
Moore is but one of many average footballers in our squad. I cant see us doing any better next year.
We need to inject some class into the squad real quick.
 

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Chewy316 said:
I've never been an Andrew Moore fan. Have always thought he was overrated on here. However, I've been willing to keep trying him in the first team simply because we still need a big bodied mid in our side apart from Wines to win the contested ball. What has struck me about Moore is that I refer to him as a "dumb footballer." By that, I'm saying that he was no spatial awareness and is slow to make decisions. This generally means he's a step or two behind the play, leading to increased pressure when he gets the ball, resulting in generally a rushed disposal (i.e. not optimal). To add to that, his defensive pressure is just non-existent at times. Gets caught ball watching. Attached is a photo I took today at the game. To me, it summed up why Moore needs to go.

11813244_10153155545336634_6525210344329043993_n_zpsraa1nt9m.jpg

Let me put this into context for you. At the start of the 4th quarter, just before the bounce, the Dogs had an unmarked man in their forward line just on the 50m arc. Wingard was playing as an extra man behind the ball who would rush through the middle of the ground at the opening bounce. Moore was on the right wing (relative to the direction we were kicking). Wingard was pointing, shouting, pretty much losing the plot at Moore to man the extra Dog forward up. Moore acknowledged Wingard, started to go closer to the man, yet as soon as the bounce started, Moore left the man and ran straight into the centre square. Sure enough, the ball gets out to the dogs runners on the outside, and straight to the man that Moore should have been marking. He then kicked the ball to the top of the square which resulted in a mark and goal (I think it was to Redpath). Sure enough, both sides reset their structures and go back to the middle. The photo above was taken as the ball was bounced after the goal. What it shows is Moore going into the square, giving the same Dogs forward a good 30 metres of space, not to mention the space in behind him. It shows how non accountable Moore was today. Is he that bloody thick between the ears? I know we're chasing the game, but there is no way that Ken structurally designed it such that Moore is leaving that guy all alone at the start of the centre bounce. Pissed me off even more so given that Wingard gave him an earful to pick up the man and he ignored it the first time, and then at this bounce. It sums up how we played today.

I personally hope he never plays for the club at the AFL level again. I've had a gut full of him.
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I was posting as that happened during the game.

What I saw was that Peter I was posting as that happened during the game post op you burger what are sold was that pizza hut was running to cover that playa then kicked it to the top of the square and I think 43 my dot full stop I will find a post it was a fascinating that's amazing my b*** in football and placement post a new paragraph I did not know that about when god and pointing to that position was running to cover that player comma who then kicked it to the top of the square and I think 43 market. I will find the post it was a fascinating fascinating moment in football and placement.

I did not know that about when God and pointing to that position
 
b0ydman said:
I was posting as that happened during the game.

What I saw was that Peter I was posting as that happened during the game post op you burger what are sold was that pizza hut was running to cover that playa then kicked it to the top of the square and I think 43 my dot full stop I will find a post it was a fascinating that's amazing my b*** in football and placement post a new paragraph I did not know that about when god and pointing to that position was running to cover that player comma who then kicked it to the top of the square and I think 43 market. I will find the post it was a fascinating fascinating moment in football and placement.

I did not know that about when God and pointing to that position
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Boydster can I have some of that sh*t you are on old son, the above is about your 4th post today that appears to have been written in swahili. :cool:
 
Schulzenfest said:
This sounds like what I saw from him live against Essendon. Heppell got away from him at the clearances far too easily on numerous occasions.

The third level at Etihad Stadium is a great place to sit if you want to learn which players are working hard and smart defensively and which ones aren't. Andrew Moore doesn't.
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Level 3 at Etihad (in the first half a dozen rows), the Q section of the G (for the first dozen or so rows) and the first 15 rows of the Riverbank stand are all great places to really watch the game open up, rather than getting a close up "TV feel" for the game. I'm just glad I had my phone out to take that photo. Couldn't believe he was disregarding Wingard for a second time...
 
b0ydman said:
I was posting as that happened during the game.

What I saw was that Peter I was posting as that happened during the game post op you burger what are sold was that pizza hut was running to cover that playa then kicked it to the top of the square and I think 43 my dot full stop I will find a post it was a fascinating that's amazing my b*** in football and placement post a new paragraph I did not know that about when god and pointing to that position was running to cover that player comma who then kicked it to the top of the square and I think 43 market. I will find the post it was a fascinating fascinating moment in football and placement.

I did not know that about when God and pointing to that position
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I've read this 3 times and I still have literally no idea what you're talking about.

Fantastic!
 

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