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Hi everyone

Here's a Happy New year to all!! I'm just thinking about the year that was before a big night out!!

Does anyone have any update on how Anthony Morabito is going with his recovery.

I keep hearing rumours that the knee is not right.

Cheers

Jayran
 
he was walking alright at the Perth Cup last night, didnt notice any limp or anything, though i was a little drunk haha so
 
If he's behind in rehab hopefully he didn't blow the doors off last night, but who am i to judge :o

I know he's been running at training but believe him and Michie will likely be the last to join the main group. Im not a physio and trust the freo medicos but hes been almost 13 months out which is a concern not to be kicking yet. Best case he is on a recovery plan that is in place to ease him in late in the NAB cup some WAFL to get touch and back by round 5 but if anyone has any solid info I'd appreciate.
 

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kirbylovespurple said:
he was walking alright at the Perth Cup last night, didnt notice any limp or anything, though i was a little drunk haha so
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As opposed to being in a wheelchair? :D Almost 13 months on after his knee reco and he still hasn't started full training yet. Something has gone very badly wrong. However he must surely not be too far away but I wouldn't be expecting him to win the Doig this year.
 
IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN said:
Reliable posters who've been down to training.
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Sorry Muffin, as opposed to me being down at training and watching him kick earlier in the off-season was that?

I've seen reports of players 'not in training' that actually were (having seen them) and players MIA who were simply in the gym.

Short of someone knowing people inside the club who've said definitively that he's had setbacks - all we've seen to date is someone saying he was on a flight from melbourne and others surmising that therefore he must be seeing a specialist and be having issues.

Ok, sure.
 
yakka man said:
As opposed to being in a wheelchair? :D Almost 13 months on after his knee reco and he still hasn't started full training yet. Something has gone very badly wrong. However he must surely not be too far away but I wouldn't be expecting him to win the Doig this year.
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what should be a 10 year player... 13 months after a major knee op... and they are babying him. hardly a surprise. it's supporter expectations on him being back straight away that cause these sorts of 'observations'
 
Ross Lyon said about a month ago that Mora had had three setbacks with his recovery and he seemed disappointed by it, mainly I think it was because Mora wasn't taking care of himself. Lyon could turn Morabito into an elite player, but it seems he'll have work on his professionalism first.
 

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Arcassius said:
Sorry Muffin, as opposed to me being down at training and watching him kick earlier in the off-season was that?

I've seen reports of players 'not in training' that actually were (having seen them) and players MIA who were simply in the gym.

Short of someone knowing people inside the club who've said definitively that he's had setbacks - all we've seen to date is someone saying he was on a flight from melbourne and others surmising that therefore he must be seeing a specialist and be having issues.

Ok, sure.
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Hey man, I just answered.

Someone else posted something they heard first hand in another thread and got slaughtered for it, I was just pointing that he hasn't pulled it out of his arse.

But yeah.
 
BananaOnTheRun said:
Ross Lyon said about a month ago that Mora had had three setbacks with his recovery and he seemed disappointed by it, mainly I think it was because Mora wasn't taking care of himself. Lyon could turn Morabito into an elite player, but it seems he'll have work on his professionalism first.
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Mora said from the beginning that they expected setbacks as part of the process - and that was repeated down the line in the Chris Bond interview and again with Lyon. Either way my point is that it's not something to worry about given the club has stated several times that he "has suffered no serious setback" "a few hiccups in the recovery but nothing dramatic", and that "we are just going to be very cautious with him".

His kicking looked fine from what I saw, I expect we'll see him out on the park after the New Years break - but even if we don't it's not entirely unexpected given the club's position on his recovery.
 
It seems my parannoia got the best of me!!

Here's hoping Mora comes back fully healed.
 
Arcassius said:
Sorry Muffin, as opposed to me being down at training and watching him kick earlier in the off-season was that?

I've seen reports of players 'not in training' that actually were (having seen them) and players MIA who were simply in the gym.

Short of someone knowing people inside the club who've said definitively that he's had setbacks - all we've seen to date is someone saying he was on a flight from melbourne and others surmising that therefore he must be seeing a specialist and be having issues.

Ok, sure.
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Which players were they? My idea of "training" is taking part in the drills with the bulk of the group. Mora should definitely be back soon but he is gonna be so far behind the rest of the group. Ross has said he has had multiple setbacks. Sometimes is is more risky to do nothing then to take actual risks.

I'm going down Wednesday, he better be training!
 
With a regular graft you are generally back to full load/training around 12 months. I get the feeling the club is being cautious. Most players recon its not until 18mth+ mark where they really feel happy and less focused on their injury.

If he was flying back from Melbourne for a medical opinion I would not assume it was his knee. The surgeons there are not recognised as being better than here. When it comes to hip scopes its a different story. Not saying he has a hip issue.

I think the training reports over the the next 2-3 weeks will give everyone a better idea where he is at.
 
the doc said:
With a regular graft you are generally back to full load/training around 12 months. I get the feeling the club is being cautious. Most players recon its not until 18mth+ mark where they really feel happy and less focused on their injury.

If he was flying back from Melbourne for a medical opinion I would not assume it was his knee. The surgeons there are not recognised as being better than here. When it comes to hip scopes its a different story. Not saying he has a hip issue.

I think the training reports over the the next 2-3 weeks will give everyone a better idea where he is at.
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No, you are actually ready to play a full game in 12 months and therefore would of been training for quite some time beforehand. Some players recover sooner.
 

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Arcassius said:
Mora said from the beginning that they expected setbacks as part of the process - and that was repeated down the line in the Chris Bond interview and again with Lyon. Either way my point is that it's not something to worry about given the club has stated several times that he "has suffered no serious setback" "a few hiccups in the recovery but nothing dramatic", and that "we are just going to be very cautious with him".

His kicking looked fine from what I saw, I expect we'll see him out on the park after the New Years break - but even if we don't it's not entirely unexpected given the club's position on his recovery.
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It is something to worry about if Mora's attitude is representative of a culture of complacency in the team. I'm just surmising from the skerricks of information, but it sounded like some of Mora's setbacks could have been self inflicted. We have guys with attitude problems in MJ and Walters and talent alone saw them survive the chop that Sibosado didn't. The point is that there's other evidence of our letting players get away with not being serious enough. If we're going to be serious contenders, then the players need to lose any complacency in their rehab, training, diet, etc. You're either a professional player or not, and Lyon has said in the last week that he'll find out next year who wants to play football.
 
That's true - but each case in isolation. Saying MJ is a squib therefore Pav is a squib is a bit of a long draw (as an example).

If he has an established attitude of complacency then fair enough - it'll hopefully be sorted with Lyon on board. I took the fact Mora mentioned that he had had setbacks to Lyon and 'what do you think I should do to improve', and then giving up his leave as a hint towards self-motivation/improvement than lack of application. Eye of the beholder perhaps.
 
Arcassius said:
That's true - but each case in isolation. Saying MJ is a squib therefore Pav is a squib is a bit of a long draw (as an example).

If he has an established attitude of complacency then fair enough - it'll hopefully be sorted with Lyon on board. I took the fact Mora mentioned that he had had setbacks to Lyon and 'what do you think I should do to improve', and then giving up his leave as a hint towards self-motivation/improvement than lack of application. Eye of the beholder perhaps.
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The MJ and Pav example is erroneous because it's not true, so you wouldn't say it in the first place. Cases in isolation are great if they happen in isolation, but if you've got multiple players with laissez faire attitudes, then that's cultural.

And it's more likely that the medicos would have informed Lyon of the setbacks, as part of an injury review after he signed up.

I agree that Lyon would help to sort it out, though. 2012 we go pro.
 
BananaOnTheRun said:
The MJ and Pav example is erroneous because it's not true, so you wouldn't say it in the first place. Cases in isolation are great if they happen in isolation, but if you've got multiple players with laissez faire attitudes, then that's cultural.

And it's more likely that the medicos would have informed Lyon of the setbacks, as part of an injury review after he signed up.

I agree that Lyon would help to sort it out, though. 2012 we go pro.
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Hope so Mofo
 
BananaOnTheRun said:
It is something to worry about if Mora's attitude is representative of a culture of complacency in the team. I'm just surmising from the skerricks of information, but it sounded like some of Mora's setbacks could have been self inflicted.
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mentioned it another thread, but the fitness guy said that Mora is very hard to manage because he doesn't actually know how much work his body can take, what he needs to eat for his own body etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if the set backs are from pushing it too hard at the wrong points, as opposed to not working hard enough.

Coming back from a knee is tough, especially the way Mora did his knee. It wasn't an impact injury (ie: Haselby) it was a clean cut self generated force injury, which almost certainly means he has muscle imbalances and stablizer issues. Those things don't fix themselves over night.
 

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