Are people who oppose high density development selfish?

[Sydney Bloods]

So because I need to move back to Sydney I rang my real estate to organise moving my tenants on.
Today I get an email pack from the real estate including a bunch of propaganda about a new apartment block that a "local action group" is seeking to stop building.

After looking at the design these apartments look pretty swank. not ugly "soviet style" flats as the ad's claims. Additional it cant destroy views because the only views in the area are of other houses its at least 5 blocks from the beach and the area its in is completely flat, so the only things they could possibly have a leg to stand on is increased traffic and business interruption during development. Such things are temporary really who gives a shit? There is one sticking point and considering this came from my real estate its really grating on me, Housing prices! According to the material housing prices will go down. Now if it doesn't affect views how would housing prices go down? The only answer could possibly be because who wants to buy a house when you could by a brand new unit for less then half the cost?

That got me thinking is this actually what most of the Nimby scum is really about? think about it, all this protection of shitty old "heritage" houses the size of shoe boxes that need constant maintenance (and look rather ugly) is it all just to restrict the amount of development and thus reduce the amount of available space to live keep housing prices artificial high? Does anyone actually care about the size of a building other then how it affects the value of their land? do they actually care about the "surburb" or just the mean house price of the suburb?

It just seem selfish to me to block the development for housing in a city that desperately needs more housing just so you can line your pockets. Can anyone actually make a case for why apartment complexes shouldn't be built that isn't actually about self interest!

 

[LukasTheGreat]

i prefer Apartment blocks, easier to live in and cheaper than a house.

 

[BotsMaster]

i prefer Apartment blocks, easier to live in and cheaper than a house.

So you pay $450 a week for a shoe box?

 

[LukasTheGreat]

So you pay $450 a week for a shoe box?

$150, don't have to worry about maintaining a backyard either.

 

[BALKAN]

So you pay $450 a week for a shoe box?

Worth it to avoid doing any yard work. Water some plants? Why don't I just build a 40,000 hectare commercial farm! Same amount of effort as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ted Nugent]

case by case basis. I'm pro development but get annoyed when I see cheapo shit going up in good areas.

Anyone been to Delfin Island in West Lakes Adelaide? What the mother ****ing ***k? Primo real estate with river frontage, 1500m to the beach and 7km from Adelaide CBD. So what did they decide to build there in the 80s? Tacky, boxy, 80s style villas that almost look like housing commission.

I see a lot of good stuff and then I see a lot of profit making rubbish/eyesores that I shake my head at and wonder why the council allowed it to be built.

 

[clogged]

If you don't mind me asking, Sydney Bloods, what area of Sydney?

 

[Admiral Byng]

In a sense, you could say that about most forms of housing cheaper than the standard suburban block and brick & tile house. Noit just apartments, but alternatives like factory built pre-fabs have just about the same level of local resistance - because they'll drive down property prices.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Don't mind high density living one bit

 

[Ted Nugent]

i prefer Apartment blocks, easier to live in and cheaper than a house.

I like house so you can store stuff in your Grant Denyer.

 

[Scotland]

$150, don't have to worry about maintaining a backyard either.

In Perth?

 

[Catfish Alley]

I never thought I'd be into it but actually love it. In Vancouver they have to build things that way because of water and mountains blocking expansion. We own our condo and have plenty of space. I have two secure underground parking spaces with an extra room for storage. Gardeners take care of everything outside and make things look nice with seasonal flowers etc. I get things that I could never afford to have in my own house (basketball and tennis courts, sauna, spa, pool, games room). Shops, bars and restaurants are all walking distance. Over the road are parks, the inlet and forests - that's my backyard.

 

[vealesy]

Its not your backyard if you have to wear clothes in it.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Its not your backyard if you have to wear clothes in it.

I've never been naked in my backyard ever. Each to their own

 

[vealesy]

I find i do it less in colder climates too.

 

[little graham]

Unless you like being a rat,this is the only high density living normal people do

 

[MrCharisma]

Wouldn't have trees to live in if everyone lived in low density housing.

 

[little graham]

Wouldn't have trees to live in if everyone lived in low density housing.

Couldnt have low density housing if there were no trees, as no trees means higher sea levels.

 

[Papa G]

case by case basis. I'm pro development but get annoyed when I see cheapo shit going up in good areas.

Anyone been to Delfin Island in West Lakes Adelaide? What the mother ****ing ***k? Primo real estate with river frontage, 1500m to the beach and 7km from Adelaide CBD. So what did they decide to build there in the 80s? Tacky, boxy, 80s style villas that almost look like housing commission.

I see a lot of good stuff and then I see a lot of profit making rubbish/eyesores that I shake my head at and wonder why the council allowed it to be built.

West Lakes is 13 kms from the CBD.

 

[little graham]

West Lakes is 13 kms from the CBD.

according to this.He's closer.

https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=w...UTF-8&ei=1b0OU-OGGYuPkgXs4IAo&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ

Must seem like further having to walk there to put your dole cheque in.

 

[MrCharisma]

Couldnt have low density housing if there were no trees, as no trees means higher sea levels.

So you're in favour of high density housing?

 

[tandino]

High Density or Urban Sprawl. One or the other. Make the choice.

 

[little graham]

So you're in favour of high density housing?

When its in trees, with normal people.

 

[clogged]

High Density or Urban Sprawl. One or the other. Make the choice.

You can have both.

 

[Caesar]

i prefer Apartment blocks, easier to live in and cheaper than a house.

Strata title is is a pain in the arse.