Are soccer players over training/playing?

[nicko99]

Scottish soccer's Premier League has postponed three matches as a mark of respect to Motherwell's Phil O'Donnell, who died after collapsing during a match yesterday. Motherwell's games against Hibernian on Jan. 2 and Celtic on Jan. 6 will be rescheduled, along with Gretna's match against St. Mirren in three days. The four other games on Jan. 2 will proceed.
``All of us at the Scottish Premier League are devastated at this awful, untimely death,'' SPL Executive Chairman Lex Gold told the organization's Web site.
O'Donnell, 35, fell to the ground moments before he was set to be substituted against Dundee United. He was treated on the field before being taken to Wishaw General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 5:18 p.m. local time.

Phil O’Donnell is the second player to have died on the field in 2007. The following is a list of onfield deaths: ​

Phil O’Donnell (Scotland) 2007 — The 35-year-old Motherwell midfielder died after collapsing on the pitch.​

Antonio Peurta (Spain) 2007 — The Sevilla and Spain midfielder died after collapsing on the field during a Spanish league.​

Cristiano de Lima Junior (Brazil) 2004 — The 24-year-old Dempo striker clashed with Mohun Bagan goalkeeper Subrata Pal, collapsed on the ground and died before he could be transferred to the hospital in the Federation Cup final in Bangalore.​

Serginho (Brazil) 2004 — The Sao Caetano defender died in Sao Paulo, after suffering an apparent cardio-respiratory arrest and collapsing on the pitch during the Brazilian championship match against Sao Paulo.​

Miklos Feher (Hungary) 2004 — The Hungarian international died after collapsing following a heart attack in a Portuguese league game between his club Benfica and Vitoria Guimaraes.​

Marc-Vivien Foe (Cameroon) 2003 — The Cameroon midfielder collapsed and died during a Confederations Cup semi-final against Colombia in France.​

Marcio Dos Santos (Brazil), 2002 — The 28-year-old striker died of a heart attack just hours after scoring a goal for Peruvian side Deportivo Wanka.​

Geovanny Cordoba and Hermann Gaviria (Colombia), 2002 — The duo died after being struck by lightning.​

Stefan Vrabioru (Romania), 2000 — The 26-year-old Astra Ploiesti player died on the way to hospital following a fall just minutes after being brought on for his first division debut against Rapid Bucharest.​

Sanjib Dutta (India), 1993 — The 27-year-old Railways midfielder died after an on-field collision in the Santosh Trophy match against Andhra Pradesh.​

Dave Longhurst (Britain), 1990 — The 25-year-old York City striker collapsed and died in a league tie.​

Samuel Okwaraji (Nigeria), 1989 — Collapsed 10 minutes from the end of a World Cup qualifier against Angola in Lagos and died from cardiac failure.​

Oliver Petit (France), 1987 — The 20-year-old brother of French international midfielder Emmanuel Oliver died during a match playing for amateur club Arques.​

Erik Jongbloed (Netherlands), 1984 — The DWS goalkeeper was killed by lightning during a match.​

Fernando Pascoal das Neves (Portugal), 1973 — The Porto player collapsed and died during a league match​

are soccer players over training/playing

how can young professinal athlete's die from a a heart failure

 

[Falchoon]

Given the amount of soccer players world wide that is not a huge number over 30 years.

Bare in mind that Rugby Union players, quite a few gridiron players and the odd basketballer have died from the same condition.

 

[VINCANITY]

That is only in major leagues who knows the amount in minor leagues.

 

[scooterb]

Deportivo Wanka.

LOL!

 

[Underdog]

That is only in major leagues who knows the amount in minor leagues.

I would say half of them are minor leagues littered with the odd big name in a major league.

Given the amount of players playing the sport and the extreme varying conditions in lifestyle and health in each country, it's not extraordinary.

 

[dmc333]

Just lucky the AFL hasn't had anything similar. Can't remember off the top of my head, I'm sure someone can, but there's been a couple of AFL corrective surgeries. And wouldn't be surprised if there's a couple undiagnosed out there.

 

[BigWardy12]

i bet nearly every AFL player trains and plays harder than any soccer player

 

[nicko99]

yeah they might train just as hard, but you dont see them playing that many games in a year

the epl has 40 games in the year, then you've got the games they play for there country and then the numerous other comps they play in such as the champions league, world cup games and so on
theres only like a months break between seasons

 

[Heisenberg_]

when they can paid such an absurd amount of money they get paid they should be worked into the ground

 

[BigWardy12]

yeah they might train just as hard, but you dont see them playing that many games in a year

the epl has 40 games in the year, then you've got the games they play for there country and then the numerous other comps they play in such as the champions league, world cup games and so on
theres only like a months break between seasons

yeah there are alot more games but alot more games means alot less training sessions. the training between games is very light.

and the games are alot less demanding.
also teams that are involved in the champions league rest their stars for league and cup matches.

I think overall in any proffessional sport if a player is being overworked the coaches will give them rest because its not worth getting injured. or maybe its the players fault for not being fit enough for the games

 

[Kompany]

That is only in major leagues who knows the amount in minor leagues.

Exactly, the journalist must have done a very poor research - 2 Norwegians died fairly recently as well.

My uncle is a heart specialist and he gets cases like Puerta all the time.

There's also a theory that says that today soccer players get rushed back into fitness too quickly after injuries by making them take way too many pain killers. That was the conclusion of a Dutch medical team in a documentary recently.

Other than that, soccer players definitely don't train too much, far from it even. The playing schedule however is an issue - some players need months to find back their form after a world cup, but it's almost impossible I think that would be related to these health problems (much rather physical and mental burnout I reckon).

 

[borgy]

Just lucky the AFL hasn't had anything similar. Can't remember off the top of my head, I'm sure someone can, but there's been a couple of AFL corrective surgeries. And wouldn't be surprised if there's a couple undiagnosed out there.

Theres was a player a few years back that played a curtain raiser at Subi and took a hanger and broke his neck. (IRRC)

 

[Underdog]

Theres was a player a few years back that played a curtain raiser at Subi and took a hanger and broke his neck. (IRRC)

Former Freo midfielder Luke Toia...

He even ran off the ground after the incident but collapsed in the race

 

[Norfolk & Clew]

Former Freo midfielder Luke Toia...

He even ran off the ground after the incident but collapsed in the race

That for real? I remember him! He died did he?

 

[BigWardy12]

a couple of years ago in a curtain raiser at Subi a guy died playig for Mazenod against Clontarf. Something to do with his heart

 

[BigWardy12]

That for real? I remember him! He died did he?

nah he didnt die

 

[Norfolk & Clew]

nah he didnt die

Thank god, wish the original post was a bit more specific, considering this is a thread about soccer players passing away on the pitch was easy for me to get the wrong idea

 

[VINCANITY]

Exactly, the journalist must have done a very poor research - 2 Norwegians died fairly recently as well.

My uncle is a heart specialist and he gets cases like Puerta all the time.

There's also a theory that says that today soccer players get rushed back into fitness too quickly after injuries by making them take way too many pain killers. That was the conclusion of a Dutch medical team in a documentary recently.

Other than that, soccer players definitely don't train too much, far from it even. The playing schedule however is an issue - some players need months to find back their form after a world cup, but it's almost impossible I think that would be related to these health problems (much rather physical and mental burnout I reckon).

I recal hearing something like that also. It would be interesting to see how many of these people were injured earlier to their death

 

[Richo88]

Similar to the rushing back from injuries as soccer is very much about your lower body often players will be forced to play with injuries in their upper bodies including shoulder problems, backs etc. With the substitution rules in socceroften players will play on their injuries as they are forced to.

 

[TorresIsGod]

If a team from England (who won the league/FA cup the season before as well as the Champions League, went all the way in every competition they played in... they will play

EPL: 38 games
FA Cup: Round 3, Round 4, Round 5, Quarter Final, Semi Final, Final [1] = Total [6]
Carling Cup: Round 3, Round 4, Quarter Finals, Semi Finals x2, Final [1] = Total [6]
UEFA Champions League: Group Phase [6], R16 [2], Quarter Finals [2], Semi Finals [2], Final [1] = Total 13
Charity Shield: 1
UEFA Super Cup: 1

Total 63 games in a 9 month period between August and May, and that's not including International Friendlies or International Tournament Qualifying or replays from draws in an FA Cup tie.

In most cases, for a top tier player representing his country, it would go above 70-75 matches in 9 months.

Yes, they do earn a lot of money, but they also play a lot more games than AFL and Rugby and stuff like that, also, their games go for a lot longer than basketball or hockey or something like that, and gridiron players get heaps of rest during the game as only one of the offence or defence can be on the field at any time.