Assistant Coaches

[AFC979810]

So they have no impact on performance?

And you're calling out others for "pure stupidity"

If Campo and Doc Clarke are doing a good job, they'll be fending off overtures from strong clubs very soon.

They have an impact on performance. My point is that their impact and ability to do their job is only known by those inside the club. As fans we have zero understanding on whether they are performing their role. As fans we can comment on our head coach and players performances because the information for those opinions is available to all.

The pure stupidity I am talking about are the bullshit threads such as these that blame the assistant coaches for our poor form. There are 1,000 other reasons why we suck this year before you get to our assistant coaches. There was also zero praise for Doc Clarke last year when Jacobs was almost All Australian. No talk of Bickley doing a great job when we had the 2nd best forward line in the AFL. One thread about Campo doing well (although, if memory serves me correctly, it had about 9 posts with one of those being you having a crack at Richard Douglas)....

To the bolded bit - how do you know they aren't? You would have zero idea whether any other clubs tried to poach them at the end of 2012.

 

[AFC979810]

It was a limited post because the point was so self evident. I'm not inclined to waste time explaining the simple to the simple. Yes, coaches tend to face less scrutiny when the team is successful. No shit. That means that when the same coaches fail dismally we shouldn't criticise!

I do like the thought that assistant coaches have no responsibility and hence cannot be assessed for the performance of the player groups they manage. Our ruck coach for example would be thrilled to know that he should in no way be assessed on the performance of our ruckmen.

My point is this. Can you please explain to me exactly how our assistant coaches have gone backwards in 2012?

We can all easily state the obvious about how Sando has gone backwards (selections, leaving players like Deledio across half back, Allowing players like pendles to get 40 touches, use of the sub, etc) because these are evident for all. Same goes with players - we can see and analyze their performance based on each game.

I have yet to see one intelligent comment about how our Assistant coaches have gone backwards. Has Bickley regressed as a forward line assistant coach? Or has it just been because his forward line has had no Tippett, Walker, Callinan this year?

This is a knee jerk shitty thread.... We are going shit - so people are just lashing out at who ever they can. I look forward to the next thread blaming our boot studder.

 

[AFC979810]

Do you ever and I mean EVER have anything positive to say and feel better by belittling and name calling ?

To answer your questions -

1. Yes i have some positive things to say.
2. Yes.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

They have an impact on performance. My point is that their impact and ability to do their job is only known by those inside the club. As fans we have zero understanding on whether they are performing their role. As fans we can comment on our head coach and players performances because the information for those opinions is available to all.

The pure stupidity I am talking about are the bullshit threads such as these that blame the assistant coaches for our poor form. There are 1,000 other reasons why we suck this year before you get to our assistant coaches. There was also zero praise for Doc Clarke last year when Jacobs was almost All Australian. No talk of Bickley doing a great job when we had the 2nd best forward line in the AFL. One thread about Campo doing well (although, if memory serves me correctly, it had about 9 posts with one of those being you having a crack at Richard Douglas)....

To the bolded bit - how do you know they aren't? You would have zero idea whether any other clubs tried to poach them at the end of 2012.

Oh, spare us.

We don't know exactly what's going on inside the club

So no one can ever make comment on anything, ever.

How fun.

Just like we don't know who is on the selection panel and who is making the calls, what the vote is.

The proof is on the pudding.

Griffin turned to shit under Clarke. Maric turned to shit. Craig never did anything. McKernan exceptionally average. Tippett's ruckwork went backwards at pace. Jenkins very poor in the ruck and still is, now reduced to permanent forward only.

We recruited a ready-made No 1 ruckman who had already dominated a final (and whose club were very reluctant to let him go, knowing what he was on the verge of doing) and he has produced one great year. Now is playing crap, just like all the ruckmen who have worked under Clarke.

Our development of ruckmen is so poor that we even had to scoop up Richmond's reserves ruckman who doesn't even lead the rucks at Sturt (who are busy contending for the wooden spoon). Three basketballers who we haven't seen as yet, fingers crossed

Now.... MAYBE the Doc is a great coach and his development work is being stymied by others at the club who are over-ruling all his brilliant tactical, stoppage set up, and ruck strategies.

Yeah maybe.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

They have an impact on performance. My point is that their impact and ability to do their job is only known by those inside the club. As fans we have zero understanding on whether they are performing their role. As fans we can comment on our head coach and players performances because the information for those opinions is available to all.

Just like the players, a coaches performance is defined by what happens on the field. If our midfield performs, it's a good sign they've been properly prepared. Given that our midfield has been woeful for most of the year, is it really that much of a leap to speculate our midfield coach isn't performing or at the very least, hasn't prepared them well enough?

On the other hand, I agree that Sando has the most responsibility. He's the head coach, he dictates which style of footy we play. He sets it all in motion. I hope he can pull it together in the off season because I'd hate to see him become the next Robert Shaw.

 

[Go You Crows]

Speaking of assistant coaches, is Dean Bailey back this weekend?

 

[swanfan]

To answer your questions -

1. Yes i have some positive things to say.
2. Yes.

I am glad you acknowledge this.

 

[AFC979810]

Oh, spare us.

We don't know exactly what's going on inside the club

So no one can ever make comment on anything, ever.

How fun.

Just like we don't know who is on the selection panel and who is making the calls, what the vote is.

The proof is on the pudding.

To the bolded part. You are better than that. We can make comments on things we can actually see and therefore assess. As I have said 5 times previously in this thread - things like player performance, coaching decisions on gameday, etc are all fair game. We can comment on this because we can actually see whats happening.

We cannot see what the assistant coaches are doing day to day, therefore to comment on them is absolute stupidity. We don't see them perform day in and day out. We don't know what Sando is instructing them, we don't know all of the behind the scene details. How much of Jacobs poor form is based on Clarke's ruck instruction (what has changed since last September?) - logically I would suggest Jacobs is either injured this year or struggling to adapt to the new ruck rules. Therefore these threads on big footy are just uninformed bullshit that are a knee jerk reaction to our current performance.

I understand and appreciate your comments on Clarke as ruck coach (even though I don't agree). They are reasoned and based on many years of your observations. Whilst i feel that they don't consider all of the factors, its at least well reasoned (even though Clarke is becoming your douglas who became your Stevens who became your shirley).

I look forward to your next thread on how the Marketing Assistants at AFC need to be fired because of poor crowd attendance this year.

 

[headache1]

Speaking of assistant coaches, is Dean Bailey back this weekend?

Next weekend.