B Goddard

[saints]

I don't think you are right about Goddard, Saints.

Grant Thomas said in his Saints Chat Interview on 19/04/06: "Brendon for one reason or another be it the media, opposition, attracts a lot of criticism. We forget he is still just 20 years of age, has played around 64 games, he is a developing midfielder. He is nearly 100 kilos and 6'3" and will be a very damaging and dominant long term player at our Club. We need a bit more patience with him, he is rarely beaten and uses the ball extremely well."

key point there he has played 64 games. for one he is to heavy. does not need to be 100kg, and he is so should get the hard ball more often. grant thomas says to wait, how long do we have to wait for. goddard will never be an elite midfielder with the team we have.
he was better in his first year than he is now. should be the other way around. grant thomas is the only person i have heard to say positive things about him. i just remember playing against him in U18 competition and he was extremely hard at the ball, and he wasnt 100kg then.

 

[Snakeman66]

key point there he has played 64 games. for one he is to heavy. does not need to be 100kg, and he is so should get the hard ball more often. grant thomas says to wait, how long do we have to wait for. goddard will never be an elite midfielder with the team we have.
he was better in his first year than he is now. should be the other way around. grant thomas is the only person i have heard to say positive things about him. i just remember playing against him in U18 competition and he was extremely hard at the ball, and he wasnt 100kg then.

Geez

You have bagged him in 3 different threads on ths Saints board that I have found without even looking(also in Rix thread and Fisher/Ferguson).

Did he steal your lunch money or took the girl you had a crush on in the third grade?

Build a bridge and GET OVER IT.​

 

[Kildonan]

I tend to agree with you, Snakeman66, I find the bagging of some of our players distressful. Especially when it is spread through a number of threads and completely off topic in those threads. I probably should have said something earlier but it is definitely not kosher.

This thread is for discussion on Goddard, though, and therefore I defend saints' rights to post here. Even though he takes a contrary view to what I believe is reality.

The reality (as I see it) is that a number one pick does not guarentee that the player will be the best player in that draft, it only guarentees that you get first choice. The first choice was definitely Goddard at the time and (I believe) still the best choice after seeing the others (from that draft) develop their games. Goddard has given us great service and is considerably advanced on most of his peers. Only Daniel Wells rivals his achiements so far (again, in my view).

2006 for Goddard, is the equivalent of 2005 for Luke Hodge. Hodge was frequently compared quite unfavourably when likened to Ball and Judd (pre-2005). In 2005 he came into his current form as one of the elite of the competition. Goddard is not the same type of player as Hodge nor most other midfielders. He is an awkward height. Too tall (and strongly built) for the burst speed of a Judd style midfielder. Not quite tall enough for a key position. His style of play looks laconic, he seems to lope away with the ball, his eyes upfield, looking for a target. He is a keen thinker and he has sublime skills. By this I mean that he is always looking to find the best route of attack. (Most players do this, yes, but Goddard has the skills to pull it off) Often this means that he holds the ball while a player gets free. Such is his kicking skill that he antipates the lead and kicks to the space. The space he kicks too is usually to the best advantage of the team, either allowing the receiver to run on, or to protect the receiver from opposition pressure. He rarely mucks it up. When he does it usually is from being run down from behind or when he is under pressure, himself. Dal Santo has the same quality with his kicking, but he seems to do it with such ease that we truly underrate his quality. These sort of players are damaging beyond their possession count.
Goddard's long kick is a beauty. He is currently ranked 2nd in the team (to Lenny) for long kicks. He is ranked 6th for total kicks, is equal 2nd for marks, and 8th for contested possessions.

Goddard is two years Dal's junior. He is Twenty. I expect him to improve this season (but I don't need him to improve to justify his position in the team), and I expect that by the end of this season, people will be more satisfied with his place in the team.

 

[bluejay]

While reading at StKildonan last post of this thread, a question for you all occured suddenly to me:

Lots of people seem to be talking about how much of a bad player Brendon is (slow, butter hands, laconic, soft, etc). But I would like to know your opinion on the very opposite, which is, what do you think is Goddard's best quality as an aussie rules football player?

I'm not too experienced nor I have watched as many games as most of you, but after having seen all last season games, and the first 3 rounds (+ the NAB Cup game we lost) of this season, I would say he is a thumping kick to the footy towards goal, but not only does he kick for distance, but he is also accurate most of the times (that is, when he doesn't miss badly to make him look really bad, which sometimes has happened to him). I know StKildonan has said something like this in his post also, but what about the rest of you? What do you think?

 

[St DAC]

BJ is (IMO) the best kick at the club - including Dal. He can deliver off either wing over 50 metres with pinpoint accuracy. He is also underrated as a contested mark, and has good vision when in possession; he nearly always chooses advantageous options with his disposal. And he's an accurate kick for goal as well.

I'd like to see him rotating wing/HFF as he'd be a difficult matchup - at 191cm taller than most HBF yet resonably mobile, particularly in a straight line.

 

[St DAC]

Did he steal your lunch money or took the girl you had a crush on in the third grade?

Sensational line, that!

 

[Rog the Ramjet]

How could you drop him? He is better than half StKildas backmen. Terrible again Grant Thomas, probably COST them the game.

 

[cfc05]

Is he back this week?

Thomas did single out your backline as the problem on monday night... but can not see who you would drop ... beleive he will win his spot back?

 

[Nightwolf]

He didnt deserve to be dropped in the first place. His dream team points were good for me..

 

[mad-saint-guy]

He should be back this week. And apparently he was feeling pretty tight and sore all week, so I doubt he was dropped on form.

Also, for the record, Goddard doesn't play in the backline. It's just another mistake in DT, like how they have Gram as a midfielder.

 

[Nightwolf]

He should be back this week. And apparently he was feeling pretty tight and sore all week, so I doubt he was dropped on form.

Also, for the record, Goddard doesn't play in the backline. It's just another mistake in DT, like how they have Gram as a midfielder.

I actually like Goddard. Hes better than Wells (Whos the most overrated player going around). Why the christ dont they just keep him on a wing with bursts in the middle?

 

[saints]

I actually like Goddard. Hes better than Wells (Whos the most overrated player going around). Why the christ dont they just keep him on a wing with bursts in the middle?

I know i have been a big critic of goddard, but i think everyone will agree saying he is bette than wells is absolutely the most stupid thing i have heard.
If goddard does turn out to be the footballer everyone says he will be if we wait long enough then maybe he will be, but at the moment wells is miles ahead of him.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

I actually like Goddard. Hes better than Wells (Whos the most overrated player going around). Why the christ dont they just keep him on a wing with bursts in the middle?

Agree about Wells, and they do play Gods wing/hf with about 30 minutes on ball each game.

So, usually..

Wing/HF - 65 minutes
On ball - 30 minutes
Bench - 15 minutes (or the rest of the game)

 

[mad-saint-guy]

I know i have been a big critic of goddard, but i think everyone will agree saying he is bette than wells is absolutely the most stupid thing i have heard.
If goddard does turn out to be the footballer everyone says he will be if we wait long enough then maybe he will be, but at the moment wells is miles ahead of him.

Why? What has Wells done (apart from that goal and a few other flashy things) that Goddard hasn't?

 

[saints]

Why? What has Wells done (apart from that goal and a few other flashy things) that Goddard hasn't?

Both have not done alot, but wells has at times torn games open. he can win you a match on his own through his pace and skill. I would say they both have been a lesser player than was expected but i still would have wells ahead of goddard.
everyone can have their own opinion and thats mine.