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apollo_creed said:
A joke?

A guy who has admitted to getting a BJ from another guy?

Doubtful.

The whispering gave it away.
He admitted later that he had a plan with David to make the housemates think he was gay and that story was part of it. It's in the diary on the website.
 
Roobunny said:
What I've found interesting is the different way men and women react to Michael and to Gretel. Men seem to like Michael and hate Gretel, and women the opposite.

Thankfully I'm an exception, even as a girlI can see Gretel's insane bias against the male housemates is blatant.

Michael's hysterical.
I disagree, Most females I know hate Gretel and think shes an idiotic mole.
And I Liked Michael I thought he was great, shame to see him go :(
 
Funniest quote of the series:-

Gretal: "I have been working on this show for 6 years and we don't edit footage."

hahahahahahaha :D
 
Jaymin said:
Funniest quote of the series:-

Gretal: "I have been working on this show for 6 years and we don't edit footage."

hahahahahahaha :D
what a ridiculous statement. So they just stream live into the house 24 hours do they? damn i hate her, surely she will be gone next year if they do another series?
 

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She'll be there till the death

Is anyone watching Uplate tonight? Michael's a great character, shouldn't have been voted out
 
Jaymin said:
Funniest quote of the series:-

Gretal: "I have been working on this show for 6 years and we don't edit footage."

hahahahahahaha :D

as stupid as she is ugly.

she'd be no-one if it wasnt for an auto-cue.
 
haha, how petty is this by Big Brother, no doubt Gretel's bruised ego has seen to it....

The footage of Michael and David's supposed 'kiss' on the official website has been altered after the Gretel argument on Monday's nominations.

The footage has been extended by a few seconds and an additional camera angle has been added.

The footage shown at the end of the nominations show in an attempt to disprove Michael's claims of editing was not the same footage initially released to the public.

The clip was first released in the premium section of the official Big Brother website early last week. It was given no contextual explanation and only showed this camera angle of the "kiss" taking place:

There was no accompanying article explaining what was happening in the video, however there was a poll open to premium members as to what they thought was going on.

The footage has since been changed to include this additional camera angle, which shows the two did not actually kiss:

Additionally the new clip includes a few extra seconds in which the two joke about "meeting up", giving the context they were only joking about the encounter.

During nominations Michael complained of selective use of camera angles, which was hastily denied by Gretel. Gretel then ordered the crew to show footage of the incident at the end of the nominations show. The footage shown to Michael was the second version of the clip posted on the official website.

from www.behindbigbrother.com
 
also here's the transcript from Michael shutting down gretel off the same site.

Gretel: You've had interviews from dawn till dusk, how've they been?

Michael: They've been interesting, they've focused on several topics.

Gretel: What ones?

Michael: Ahh, the David and myself relationship, that was the question that came up the most. Aaah.. and you know, essentially what I was trying to accomplish in the house.

Gretel: What was the David relationship business?

Michael: You know there was a supposed kiss that took place that never happened... it was great editing by Big Brother.

Gretel: Hey wait a minute

[Gretel raises a finger at Michael, and nods]

Gretel: You want to say that again?

Michael: It was great editing by Big Brother

Gretel: Why was it editing? I've seen that shot we didn't edit it.

Michael: I haven't seen the whole video so...

Gretel: So how do you know it was great editing?

[Gretel raises her finger again]

Michael: Because as far as I've been told because I haven't been able to actually see the footage...

Gretel: Well I actually heard you said it was camera angles

Michael: ... can I finish the sentence?

Gretel: Yeah give it a bash

[The audience says "oooh"]

Michael: Just give me a chance. As far as I've been told because I haven't been allowed to see anything, I'm going on hearsay...

Gretel: [sarcastically] Right thats always a good basis...

[Gretel looks down and starts writing something on her clipboard]

Michael: Just give me a second let me finish what I'm saying ok

Gretel: [while still writing] I'm absorbing, go on

Michael: Ok, so as far as I've been told, its been edited, in a manner that you don't actually...

Gretel: Who told you this!?

Michael: [pauses, annoyed] do you want me to speak?

Gretel: I'm having whats called a conversation

Michael: Wait let-

Gretel: Who told you this?

[Michael pauses, annoyed]

[Gretel raises her finger at Michael]

Gretel: Listen mate, if you're going to tell me when I've worked on a show for six years, that we have edited something...

Michael: Well if you let me-

Gretel: and it has not been edited, I'd like to know who told you that.

Michael: Ok and I will actually be able to give you a retort, if you would actually let me finish a sentence.

Gretel: Ok so opposed to a discussion, we'll have a monologue.

[Gretel points her finger towards Michael]

Gretel: Fire away!

[Gretel crosses her legs]

Michael: No its a dicussion Gretel and-

Gretel: Go on, go on

Michael: If you're asking me a question how am I supposed to-

Gretel: You believe it was edited even though you haven't seen it... go! Please continue.

[Michael pauses]

Michael: Ok will you actually let me finish the sentence?

Gretel: Yeah I think we got over that bit, yeah.

Michael: Ok, what I was saying was, what actually took place was there was a great bit of editing, because from what I have been told and it is hearsay because I've only been out of the house a short time and haven't had a chance to view anything, so I'm going on what people have actually told me and it does not finish, where it ends in what was shown last night, or whenever it was shown, does not finish the whole, the whole the structure of everything that took place. So you don't actually see me laugh and walk away. So if that is the case then thats brilliant editing by Big Brother. And that is exactly what I'm saying.

[Gretel pauses]

Gretel: Rightio. Lets move on shall we.


Moments later:

Gretel: Can I just ask you one question before we go onto the next nominations. When you go into the Big Brother house you are aware there are cameras in the house?

Michael: Absolutely

Gretel: And you are aware there are cameras all around you.

Michael: Absolutely

Gretel: And you are aware therefore that cameras will pick up things from different angles, not necessarily front on.

Michael: Mmhrm

Gretel: Ok so you are aware when you're in the house that your behaviour will be filmed.

Michael: Absolutely I'm aware of that

Gretel: Ok, [Gretel shakes her head] fine. Alright lets move on.

Michael: What was the point of that?

Gretel: We're just moving on, I'm just digest(ing) that.

Michael: Ok you can digest that but I still don't understand the point of it.

Gretel: You don't have to

Michael: And I don't understand where the attack is coming from when I personally feel that something was done in a manner... [Gretel looks away from Michael, annoyed] ... which I didn't feel was justified now and I don't understand where the attack is coming from.

Gretel: It was never said on the program that you kissed. May I just say that you haven't seen it-

Michael: You asked me a qu-

Gretel: and you are accusing myself and everyone who works here

Michael: Yourself!? I never implicated you in any manner

Gretel: I represent everybody who works on this show

Michael: Well I never implicated-

Gretel: Please, would you look at the footage before you comment on it. That is what I'm asking you to do.

Michael: You asked me a question of what people asked me today, so I am discussing what people asked me and if you don't like the answer I can't help that. But I will give you my best honest answer that I can give you.

[Gretel starts talking over Michael]

Gretel: You know I'll tell you one thing, I just mentioned tonight, you know, I live with kids. I'm used to people trying to bamboozle me.

Michael: I'm not trying to bamboozle you.

[The crowd laughs]

Gretel: Lets...

[Gretel smiles, and raises her finger to Michael again]

Gretel: Lets move on, because it is a nominations night, we can discuss this further.
 
that was pure GOLD. Gretel comprehensively pwn3d

I reckon she thought she had him because he was on live TV and he would be nervous(ala Glenn last year) so she would win the argument but he turned the tables on her and made her look like a fool in front of everyone:thumbsu:
 
Very funny television.

She embarrassed herself on national television.

Knew it was all over when she got on to "Listen mate..."

Gretel's not so clever when she can lord it over naive, stage-frightened 19 year-old's...
 
gretel is a condescendinn you know what. shes right up there in my top 10 most hated tv "celebs". yes she maybe an author, and a wordsmith but what was with the Im "digesting" and "absorbing". shed be a great politician, actually id like to see her in parliament getting shot down time after time.

i think HMs are getting smarter and more adapt at dealing with her, hence the constant "BB is talking in my ear". when shes losing an argument she'll just throw away to another topic.

recall last year when trevor won BB? didnt his mum run onto the stage and practically cop a closeline from gretel as if to say "get off"?
 
Pessimistic said:
Krystal is hotter than hot !

Can't believe she is being double nominated.

First Danny chooses her for the rewards, then changes her mind, then changes it back but BB won't let her.

Then she chooses Krystal for 3 points off, then cahnges mnd, than back again - meanng Krystal is let off but BB nominates her for going 'Under the radar'

That is total crap you can't get canned for having fake cans jus befre the series then go under the radar.

to top that if sh is nominated it is a double eviction !

K's sex appeal is 100% natural

Putting Krystal up for under the radar does look strange.
 

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The Hulkster said:
She just made herself look bad last night and everyone knows she was wrong.

She was on Sydney radio this morning defending herself and BB to the hilt.

Said something long the lines of "it was a red flag to a bull when Michael tried to tell me how a television show was put together."

Newsflash Gretel - you could read an autocue for the next 100 years and still have no idea what goes on inside the editing room.

Nobody in TV really does except for the editors and producers.

yes she maybe an author, and a wordsmith

I'm sure she likes to think so.
 
Fantastic to see Michael stand up for himself unlike most of the previous male housemates taht she has taken a dislike to for whatever reason. (Although they obviously aren't put in there for there debating abilities, luckily for Gretel.)

She is a has-been who thinks the show is about her, picks and chooses who she thinks are deserving of the audiences admiration and disgust, fantastic to see Michael shoot her down over a very valid and correct point, while Gretel sat there with nothing to fall back on but the old talk-back radio trick of talking over someone and not letting them finish the sentence. Poor form Gretel.

Last nights show should have been about Michael, but Gretel let some petty grievance get in the way of that. She owes him an apology.
 
Scratcher Gillespie said:
Last nights show should have been about Michael, but Gretel let some petty grievance get in the way of that. She owes him an apology.

She owes the world an apology

What did saxon see in her? in fact what did anyone see in her?
 

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Gretal's just a man hating old sack of wrinkle infested whine bag.

When will she realise that the show ISN'T ABOUT HER! Every time the shows on she makes out that she isn't some sort of ultra-intelligent hostess with super dooper accreditation.
Who the hell does she think she is?
She is only known for being the bag that does a dodgy job of hosting a dodgy show.

Michael is doing exactly what I would be doing if I were in that house......stirring the pot a bit, make things interesting......
The producers obviously use the editing powers to shed light on who they like and dislike.....that is why Michael has been voted out this week.

The whole shows become a yawn to me lately


And what was up with that Lie detector bullshyt .....Anyone could put a red and green light at the bottom of a TV screen and say that they're lieing ......Bigbrother's questions were so ridiculously immature and quite blatantly directed at amusing the teenage wannabes that religiously watch the dribble.

BB Adults only (Krystal's plastics fantastics), and MAYBE Friday night games (Fryzie is funny, and I like how they totally K.O themselves in the games) is the only thing I might watch.
 
Lenny* said:
And what was up with that Lie detector bullshyt .....Anyone could put a red and green light at the bottom of a TV screen and say that they're lieing ......Bigbrother's questions were so ridiculously immature and quite blatantly directed at amusing the teenage wannabes that religiously watch the dribble.

yep, polygraph tests have flaws if not done properly. i think i heard john say it didnt measure heart rate or sweating. voice pitch/tremours cna come about cause one's nervous etc.

if anything BB shouldve opened up with questions like "is your name krystal, are you a girl, do you have fake breasts" so as to calibrate.

i dont trust lie detectors.

But yeah as you said, its easy to put green, red and the occassional in between colour on the screen.
 
peternorth said:
yep, polygraph tests have flaws if not done properly. i think i heard john say it didnt measure heart rate or sweating. voice pitch/tremours cna come about cause one's nervous etc.

if anything BB shouldve opened up with questions like "is your name krystal, are you a girl, do you have fake breasts" so as to calibrate.

i dont trust lie detectors.

But yeah as you said, its easy to put green, red and the occassional in between colour on the screen.
I did a bit of research on the net, detractors say that they are about 45% accurate and do not detect when a person is deliberately altering the way they speak to throw it off. Pretty :D:D:D:D-weak way of doing it, why not get a real polygraph and hook them up to it? I also noticed they took down the answers to the questions on the website.
 
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