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I remember this year after the Collingwood debacle that I reeled off a beep test of seven before Finey finally cut me off.
 
But does a quick beep test actually correlate with AFL success?
 
anything over 14 is entering elite athlete endurance, Not everyone can even physically get that fit to hit over 14.

Very impressive effort to get 16

For everyone throwing around current players with 15/16, your not going to get around that once you put on the required bulk to play AFL
Nobody has "Finished" the Beep Test either

Example
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm
Those scores are verified. If guys were getting 15 in the AFL you would hear about it
Im sure the fittest AFL players will get the low 15's, however i very much doubt guys in the AFL are getting 15
 
Impressed me very much today WHE

PB is 10.11 so anything over 10 i admire, anything over 13 i adore
 

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You can look at the top 10 of the various categories from the 2004 draft camp onwards at Top end sports.

Bottom line is that top 10 Beep test results are not a great indicator of future AFL success. In recent years the strike rate has got better but even now if you get 3 out of the top 10 doing well , it's a good year.

The better indicator of draft position and\or success is the top 10 of the Repeat Sprints.

Top 10 beep test results probably mean that there is a good chance that you will not be a great or even good AFL footballer.
 
Apologies if this is a dumb question - maybe answered in another thread - but does the AFL site or anyone post full results from this year's testing?
 
There are lots of players who have achieved staggering draft camp results who are not guns - some are just freak athletes, such as Tim Clarke.
 
anything over 14 is entering elite athlete endurance, Not everyone can even physically get that fit to hit over 14.

Very impressive effort to get 16

For everyone throwing around current players with 15/16, your not going to get around that once you put on the required bulk to play AFL
Nobody has "Finished" the Beep Test either

Example
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm
Those scores are verified. If guys were getting 15 in the AFL you would hear about it
Im sure the fittest AFL players will get the low 15's, however i very much doubt guys in the AFL are getting 15

Some of the very elite endurance guys might top 16 in the AFL.

From Carlton Andrew Walker always wins the time trial and travels at a fair click at top speed. Any other suggestions of elite endurance athletes (Harvey, Crawford, Bradley from yesteryear)?
 
But the numbers suggest that shuttle run results are not that significant. They can show the athletes and not necessarily the footballers.
 
anything over 14 is entering elite athlete endurance, Not everyone can even physically get that fit to hit over 14.

Very impressive effort to get 16

For everyone throwing around current players with 15/16, your not going to get around that once you put on the required bulk to play AFL
Nobody has "Finished" the Beep Test either

Example
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm
Those scores are verified. If guys were getting 15 in the AFL you would hear about it
Im sure the fittest AFL players will get the low 15's, however i very much doubt guys in the AFL are getting 15
Mitch Brown did a 15 flat a couple of years ago in pre-season and he's a big unit.
 

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But the numbers suggest that shuttle run results are not that significant. They can show the athletes and not necessarily the footballers.
Granted, but an important part of being an AFL footballer more so than probably any other team ball sport is aerobic fitness. Players with sub-par fitness are unlikely to be able to play consistent football for a few years and some players are just unable to ever generate a sufficient fitness level. Tony Notte was an example of this.
I don't think it's terribly important, but if a club was investing a high draft pick in a gun midfielder, they would expect good fitness results.
 
anything over 14 is entering elite athlete endurance, Not everyone can even physically get that fit to hit over 14.

Very impressive effort to get 16

For everyone throwing around current players with 15/16, your not going to get around that once you put on the required bulk to play AFL
Nobody has "Finished" the Beep Test either

Example
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm
Those scores are verified. If guys were getting 15 in the AFL you would hear about it
Im sure the fittest AFL players will get the low 15's, however i very much doubt guys in the AFL are getting 15
14 or 15 is impressive if you're a big man who carries more bulk and might be slower. I don't know why it's supposed to be startling if you're comparing skinny teenage flankers/mids. Whippets such as Cale Morton, Ryan Bastinac and Farren Ray reached level 15 at draft camp. Marcus Davies is a solid boy, yet reached 15.1 and placed in the top of the 3 km time trial at the 09 draft camp. Andrew Walker hasn't slowed after his weight hit 95 kgs a few year back.
 
But does a quick beep test actually correlate with AFL success?

Im sure coaches and fitness staff would prefer some test of running 4-800 metres than resting than going again. In AFL the game is very much go hard for 2 mins rest, hard for 2 mins rest. Ive heard many mates say this that is what is told to them by the AFL teams fitness staff.
 
A test that does bear some relationship to success in the AFL also appears to the vertical leap results.

Part of the problem is that the test done in 2004 were not exactly the same as today but a few of them can be said to be more or less consistent.

I'd take more notice of the vertical leap results.
 
Im sure coaches and fitness staff would prefer some test of running 4-800 metres than resting than going again. In AFL the game is very much go hard for 2 mins rest, hard for 2 mins rest. Ive heard many mates say this that is what is told to them by the AFL teams fitness staff.

Exactly - gameplan of guys like Dane Swan is built around it.

If however (and I think they should to continue opening up the games) drop the bench back to 2 bench + 2 subs like it was in the 80's I think then endurance would be more important again.

Young Hill is noticed because of his brother and will probably be drafted on the basis of this and his beep but has to do a lot of other things well enough to be good AFL player.
 
14 or 15 is impressive if you're a big man who carries more bulk and might be slower.
I find it hard to believe anyone over 90+ kilos who gets 15, im not doubting that 1-2 guys could get it, However Many factors, such as these kids (Brad Hill looks about 30 kilos) so his endurance would beat a guy whos running around at 85 Kilos, however we're not sure if he's hit the apex or that living the life of a professional athlete could push it his score more
 

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