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Who do you honestly believe is the better player?

After the St Kilda game, I heard an Eagles supporter phone 6PR and complain that "Cousins goes missing when the Eagles are in trouble, whereas when Freo are in trouble, Bell leads from the front."

I was extremely shocked as I have never heard any WC supporter talk about Cousins in such a manner.

Both are similar players, however I think Bell puts his body on the line to win the hard ball far more often than Cousins which is why I believe he is the better player.

After his game on the weekend he stamped himself as possibly the best captain in the league and I wouldn't trade him for any other player in the, which is a big call.
 
Depends in what context - if we're talking about who is the better player now, you'd probably go Bell, just. Who has had the better 2003 season - Bell, just.

But if you were asked which player you'd rather have at your club, I'd reckon just about everyone would go with Cousins because he is much younger and has more of a future than Bell, who is now at the back end of his career - although I do get the impression of Bell he'll do a bit of Buckley and stay at the top of his form for much longer than most can...
 
Originally posted by Black Thunder
But if you were asked which player you'd rather have at your club, I'd reckon just about everyone would go with Cousins because he is much younger and has more of a future than Bell, who is now at the back end of his career - although I do get the impression of Bell he'll do a bit of Buckley and stay at the top of his form for much longer than most can...
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Bell is only two years older than Cousins. Cousins is 25, Bell 27.
 

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Benny K is a darn good player and this season Bell is back to his attacking best (past seasons has shored up the backline). They both have endearing playing abilities.

Leadership is what separates them, at present Belly is the consumate leader in a similar style to Voss. Maybe he is a good leader in that he has had to work his backside off to even make the grade, whilst Ben is more naturally talented and things have come to him naturally, but when he's up against it, he at present struggles to climb the mountains.

It is really a value judgement as to who is better.
 
Well in all honesty on pure skill Cousins is the better player, but as they say attitude is everything.
As far as intensity and hardness at the ball Cousins is nothing compared to bell.
Bell is the second best captain in the league where as Cousins is down the bottom.
When the game is on the line Bell does the job (Adelaide game), cousins as mentioned goes missing.

Give me Peter Bell anytime.

Furthermore the younger kids look up to bell, Schammer idolises him and as conolly said mimics everything he does.
Cousins has problems leading his younger brigade, Kerr is a prime example
 
Originally posted by masai
Maybe he is a good leader in that he has had to work his backside off to even make the grade, whilst Ben is more naturally talented and things have come to him naturally, but when he's up against it, he at present struggles to climb the mountains.
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I think perhaps you're not giving Cuzz the credit he deserves there.

Yeah, he was blessed with a lot of natural talent, but he's also worked incredibly hard to get his fitness to a level where he can literally run all day. He's also bulked up considerably to better handle the tags he's had to endure since he was a teenager.

I'd also suggest he has shown fine leadership in many games. Watch our win over Carlton last year, where he dragged the entire side over the line in that last quarter. He was also the man to stand up when the Kanga's looked like running over the top of us in rnd22 last year. Even last week he was one of the few to have a real crack in the second half.

FWIW, I think Bell has had the better season this year, and is a much superior captain. But, if I had to choose between the two, I'd go with Cousins without a moments hesitation.
 
Originally posted by |D_J^B_J|
After the St Kilda game, I heard an Eagles supporter phone 6PR and complain that "Cousins goes missing when the Eagles are in trouble, whereas when Freo are in trouble, Bell leads from the front."
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Someone should remind him of season 2000 and 2001. Cousins went missing a lot then, didn't he? The guys been on top of his game since his debut year, i believe he has earnt the right to have a poor game and not cop cr*p like that.
(poor game? I'd be happy for all our players to have poor games like him).
 
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Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
Someone should remind him of season 2000 and 2001. Cousins went missing a lot then, didn't he? The guys been on top of his game since his debut year, i believe he has earnt the right to have a poor game and not cop cr*p like that.
(poor game? I'd be happy for all our players to have poor games like him).
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Settle down D4E.

For what it's worth, I don't necessarily agree with that caller. Cousins doesn't have the toughess or grunt of Bell but he tried as hard as he could to provide a spark for his team in the third quarter against the Saints. Pity he had no support from the rest of his team (bar Jones, McDougall and Collica). :o
 
As a dyed in the wool Eagles man I'm confident that Cousins is technically a much better player but Bell is a far superior leader.

I've always had the feeling that Cuz tends to be a bit selfish and is more concerned with himselk looking good than inspiring the team to bigger and better things, although he has done some good things this year. Despite that he's no Worsfold or Voss as a captain.

Bell is to the Dockers what Voss is to Brisbane - the heart and soul of the club and a very admirable player as well.
 
Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
I think perhaps you're not giving Cuzz the credit he deserves there.


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I was definitely not putting Benny down, just thinking aloud about players who have to work their backsides of make the grade, make great fighters, but naturally talented players sometimes have to "learn" how to fight.

Another query, was the captaincy forced on Ben prematurely?. I am looking from the direction of him maturing (mentally and in his game). Some people are born leaders, some grow into the role. Admittedly at the time, the only candidates were really Ben and Jacko, and we all know Jacko has been a great player, but leader ..........

Belly took over the captaincy at a time when he was mature and had mastered his game role.
 
I think they are both fantastic leaders and im no dockers fan but i love Peter Bell...hes probably been the best thing to happen at Freo and is reason for thier 'success' over the past few years.

I think Benny certainly steps up when the Eagles need him, he gets em going and even if they lose the match he still tries to get em goin to kick a few...
Honestly i cant seperate them! They are both champions of the game and assests to West Australian football!
 
I'd be very happy if either of them were at carlton. So you know if Freo arent happy with bell, or West Coast arent happy with cousins.

Then call me and maybe we can organise a deal between cousins/bell and Mckernan. lol;)
 

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I'll take Peter Bell anytime over Ben Cousins.....he is a class act a class player a class leader and a class person.

Oh yeah i forgot he is from Souths and Cousins from the fishes.

:D :D :D :D :D :D
 
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Ok, thats abit of an exaggeration, but you get were i'm coming from.
 
Cousins is by far the more talented player but Bell probably shades him in the leadership role. But Cousins is quite a good captain himself who often lifts the side, which was again on show last weekend. Cousins easily...

Bell played his best footy at North.
 
The reason I hate cousins is because he plays for the Eagles, but he can't be denied of his talent. Like many people have said, Bell out-does him with his leadership roles and team committment. But Bell is right up there with Cousins as far as talent goes. Bell really puts his body on the line, Cousins is usually the guy running past for the handball after some intense scrambling for the ball.
A great example of Bell's courage is in the game against the Kangaroos. It was the last two minutes of the game and the ball was rolling in space. Bell and a North guy both charged at the ball. Bell slid in and put his body in a death-defying situation, where the Kangas guy almost chickened out. So after comparing all football qualities, I would say that Bell is the better player.
 

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Originally posted by jod23
Cousins is by far the more talented player but Bell probably shades him in the leadership role. But Cousins is quite a good captain himself who often lifts the side, which was again on show last weekend. Cousins easily...

Bell played his best footy at North.
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Balls. Bell's disposal by foot on both sides of the body is far superior to Cousins', he is a stronger mark, he lays a bog-load more tackles and has kicked more goals this year. And the leadership bit is a given. Turn the blinkers off, ducky. Bell in a canter.
 
What a useless question.

Why didn't you just ask, are you a Fremantle supporter or West Coast supporter?
 
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Ok, thats abit of an exaggeration, but you get were i'm coming from.
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But you have to agree, it's a very artistic exaggeration.
 
Originally posted by jod23
. Cousins easily...

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Belly is a better captain and a better player. Peter Bell early in his career had to deal with adversity of being delisted , shift city , juggle uni studies , people in Freo knew it was wrong to get rid of him but no one said nothing cause alot of people thought it was right that Gerard Neesham was coach , Me personally said it shouldve been Ken Sheldon & I'll stick by it , but there is no use on harping on the past. Ben Cousins get a easy ride with a silver spoon in his mouth he may have the skills but he has no heart & he doesnt know the feeling to win a premiership. That my freinds is something Belly can do.
 
Originally posted by ozzult
What a useless question.

Why didn't you just ask, are you a Fremantle supporter or West Coast supporter?
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Um, I was hoping for some constructive comments regarding their abilities, leadership and style of play from both supporters, whether they be biased or unbiased.

Obviously not everyone is able to provide this.
 
Originally posted by RogerMellie
Bell's disposal by foot on both sides of the body is far superior to Cousins']
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Agreed, Bell does a great job of covering 30m on both feet, and Cousins can't kick on his left. That goal against the Saints from 50 was a fluke.
Originally posted by RogerMellie
he is a stronger mark
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Bollocks
Originally posted by RogerMellie
he lays a bog-load more tackles and has kicked more goals this year. And the leadership bit is a given. Turn the blinkers off, ducky. Bell in a canter.
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He lays more tackles, I'll give you that, but the leadership bit is not given just because Bell sits on the AFLPA executive.

Turn your blinkers off, open your eyes and watch some bloody footy.
 

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