Best Midfield Group

[The Panther]

Moving Forward.

A) Richmond.

Dustin Martin (elite talent), Cotchin (ditto), Foley, Deleido (already there).

B) Melbourne

Scully (elite talent), Tengrove (ditto), Slyvia, Jones.

C) Carlton

Murphy (stagnating), Gibbs (ditto), McLean (injured), Judd (elite).

 

[Rioli magic]

I'd have Moloney in Melbourne's before Jones.

 

[DT_35]

Deledio plays backline...Foley is not Elite.

 

[Hannabal]

Jones shouldn't be in the poll as he'll struggle to make the team within 18 months.

McKenzie, Gysberts, Tapscott, Blease, Bail are all better prospects.

For the purposes of the poll you should have McKenzie.

Btw, well done for getting at least two of the four Melbourne names spelt right.

 

[Claude Balls]

Moving Forward.

Do you mean towards the goals? As in, the best attacking midfield?

On a serious note, this is actually quite a tough one, between Richmond and Melbourne. Scully and Trengove will be great, and there'll be others to provide depth, but the same goes for Martin and Cotchin...

 

[BluesKreuz]

I would also add Kade Simpson, he is extremely underated in my view, gun!

 

[gibbanator]

Strange poll. 1 proven A grade midfield vs 2 potetially good ones.

Also Simpson needs to be added to the A grade midfield.

 

[The Panther]

I would also add Kade Simpson, he is extremely underated in my view, gun!

Simpson is pretty vanilla. He's about as elite as Sharrod Wellingham, or in this context, Shane Tuck. A solid player, nothing more, nothing else.

As far as this poll goes, I've left a few players out who IMO aren't proven.

i.e. Richmond's, Daniel Jackson, Matthew White (who I believe has great potential), Dan Connors (ditto) & co.
i.e. Melbourne's, Moloney (IMO he's fringe), the rest are youth who haven't played enough games.

 

[gibbanator]

Simpson is pretty vanilla. He's about as elite as Sharrod Wellingham, or in this context, Shane Tuck. A solid player, nothing more, nothing else.

As far as this poll goes, I've left a few players out who IMO aren't proven.

i.e. Richmond's, Daniel Jackson, Matthew White (who I believe has great potential), Dan Connors (ditto) & co.
i.e. Melbourne's, Moloney (IMO he's fringe), the rest are youth who haven't played enough games.

Kade Simpson is very underrated, I would put him in the Pendlebury category not the Wellingham one.

 

[Rustof]

I am biased but I think we have the best midfield then closely followed by Melbourne and then Carlton. We are ranked 1st for differential clearances and are ranked 1st in rounds 10-18 for average clearances per game (40). Cotch and Martin also have high contested possession rate with Cotch have 48% of his possession being contested and Martin have 42%, with each averaging 4.4 and 4.8 clearances a game respectively, not bad for a 20 and 18 year old.

 

[buzzbuzz]

Strange poll. 1 proven A grade midfield vs 2 potetially good ones.

Also Simpson needs to be added to the A grade midfield.

Is this a serious comment?!

I'm voting Richmond. Martin, Cotchin and Deledio are a hell of a trio.

 

[Simmonds2Hislop]

Simpson is pretty vanilla. He's about as elite as Sharrod Wellingham, or in this context, Shane Tuck. A solid player, nothing more, nothing else.

As far as this poll goes, I've left a few players out who IMO aren't proven.

i.e. Richmond's, Daniel Jackson, Matthew White (who I believe has great potential), Dan Connors (ditto) & co.
i.e. Melbourne's, Moloney (IMO he's fringe), the rest are youth who haven't played enough games.

Interesting that you consider Jackson to be unproven yet Cotchin and Martin as proven.

Also very interesting that you rate Matt White.

I'd also have Edwards and Collins ahead of Connors as a midfield prospect.

 

[Ferdinand Lewis]

* Foley (24), Deledio (23), Cotchn (19), Martin (19)

*Colin (25), Jones (23), Sculy (19), Trengrove (19)

* Judd (27), McLean (24), Murphy (23), Gibbs (21)

Moving Forward.

A) Richmond.

Dustin Martin (elite talent), Cotchin (ditto), Foley, Deleido (already there).

B) Melbourne

Scully (elite talent), Tengrove (ditto), Slyvia, Jones.

C) Carlton

Murphy (stagnating), Gibbs (ditto), McLean (injured), Judd (elite).

 

[The Panther]

Interesting that you consider Jackson to be unproven yet Cotchin and Martin as proven.

Also very interesting that you rate Matt White.

I'd also have Edwards and Collins ahead of Connors as a midfield prospect.

I don't really rate Jackson. IMO his scope for growth is limited.

What I like about Connors is he has great foot disposal. As for White, he has line breaking pace.

What is holding back Richmond IMV is they need a 2nd tall to help Riewoldt.

 

[Simmonds2Hislop]

I don't really rate Jackson. IMO his scope for growth is limited.

What I like about Connors is he has great foot disposal. As for White, he has line breaking pace.

What is holding back Richmond IMV is they need a 2nd tall to help Riewoldt.

Definatley. Although Griff barely contributed himself, he drew attention away from Riewoldt and we won every game he played. Hopefully Vickery can perform a similar role until we get Griff back or we recruit someone else.

 

[Rustof]

I don't really rate Jackson. IMO his scope for growth is limited.

What I like about Connors is he has great foot disposal. As for White, he has line breaking pace.

What is holding back Richmond IMV is they need a 2nd tall to help Riewoldt.

Jackson doesn't and never will have the foot skills of Lids, Cotch or Martin, but his big body and tank helps to shutdown a player or feed the ball out in clearances.
Connors has shown signs of being able to win a contest but ATM is being played in the HB along with Lids and Newman as these guys are our best kicks in the team, helping us to set up plays, so we probably won't see him in the midfield much. As for White, he does have explosive speed but when Foley is fit and firing he is our mid that breaks out of the packs at a million miles an hour to drive the ball to our forwards.
Also with White from previous years when he was in the midfield he would get caught a lot or poorly dispose of the footy, so now he generally plays as a crumbing forward or along the wing.

 

[The Mighty Boosh]

* Foley (24), Deledio (23), Cotchn (19), Martin (19)

*Colin (25), Jones (23), Sculy (19), Trengrove (19)

* Judd (27), McLean (24), Murphy (23), Gibbs (21)

Except Cotchin is 20. You do realise he was drafted in 2007, don't you? Also, Trengove is 18, Sylvia 24, Jones 22.

Interesting that you tried to make the Tigers group look youngest with blatant bullshit. Actually, Foley is older than Sylvia, Deledio is older than Jones, Cotchin is older than Scully and Martin is older than Trengove....

Melbourne would be better with Gysberts instead of Jones. Gonna be a great player. Grimes may also push into the midfield but I think he'll play a Hodge type role on the HBF.

I think if you look at just these four players it's very tough to split the Dees and Tigers. I think were Melbourne wins is the depth of quality players 19 - 21 that are pushing into the midfield.

Carlton are a distant 3rd.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Except Cotchin is 20. You do realise he was drafted in 2007, don't you? Also, Trengove is 18, Sylvia 24, Jones 22.

Interesting that you tried to make the Tigers group look youngest with blatant bullshit. Actually, Foley is older than Sylvia, Deledio is older than Jones, Cotchin is older than Scully and Martin is older than Trengove....

Melbourne would be better with Gysberts instead of Jones. Gonna be a great player. Grimes may also push into the midfield but I think he'll play a Hodge type role on the HBF.

I think if you look at just these four players it's very tough to split the Dees and Tigers. I think were Melbourne wins is the depth of quality players 19 - 21 that are pushing into the midfield.

Carlton are a distant 3rd.

This.

That's one rotation for the Tigers, whats next?

 

[Spitz]

Except Cotchin is 20. You do realise he was drafted in 2007, don't you? Also, Trengove is 18, Sylvia 24, Jones 22.

Interesting that you tried to make the Tigers group look youngest with blatant bullshit. Actually, Foley is older than Sylvia, Deledio is older than Jones, Cotchin is older than Scully and Martin is older than Trengove....

Melbourne would be better with Gysberts instead of Jones. Gonna be a great player. Grimes may also push into the midfield but I think he'll play a Hodge type role on the HBF.

I think if you look at just these four players it's very tough to split the Dees and Tigers. I think were Melbourne wins is the depth of quality players 19 - 21 that are pushing into the midfield.

Carlton are a distant 3rd.

Richmonds top 3 will/are alot better than Melbournes.

Its makes up for the lack of depth at the bottom.


Stop having a whinge, your talking a couple of months in the scheme of things, it doesnt change a thing.

 

[Simmonds2Hislop]

This.

That's one rotation for the Tigers, whats next?

Collins, Edwards, Connors, Jackson and maybe Tucky.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Collins, Edwards, Connors, Jackson and maybe Tucky.

Thanks for playing

 

[TigerTime88]

Jones is a very similar player to Tuck. You are obviously one of those people who underrates him. The only difference is tuck gets way more clearances and touches than Jones.

 

[Simmonds2Hislop]

Thanks for playing

Yeah I wasn't sure whether to include Tucky as he will only be around for another 2-4 years.

He is a pretty decent player at present though.

 

[Pykie]

Thanks for playing

You realise the bloke averages 27 disposals a game and is one of the best pure clearance players in the league?


The only thing a player like Jones has over him, is 5 years.

He'll need it too, as it will take him about that long after Tuck has retired to overturn the stat differential.

 

[The Mighty Boosh]

Richmonds top 3 will/are alot better than Melbournes.

Its makes up for the lack of depth at the bottom.


Stop having a whinge, your talking a couple of months in the scheme of things, it doesnt change a thing.

Cotchin / Martin = Scully / Trengove. Probably a better output from the Tiges two this year but the Dees duo have shown they could be anything and Cotch does have more experience. All of these could be stars and too early to call at the moment.

Now that Sylvia is fit again we are seeing how damaging he can be- I'd take him before Deledio but that may be my bias. I don't think it is a big win either way and call a tie.

The Richmond three are not clearly a lot better than the Dees.

Our depth is superior for young midfield talent and with the way the game is played these days is very important.

A couple of months it may be and I'm not really whinging about that more the deliberate misrepresentation. The ages of those four are very close and as such you are right that it is negligible. Adding a year to three of our players though and subtracting one from theirs is just silly.