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Best Point Guard (after Lin)?

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Best Point Guard

  • Derrick Rose

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  • Rajon Rondo

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  • Deron Williams

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  • Chris Paul

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  • Russell Westbrook

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  • Jeremy Lin

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Re: Best Point Guard?

Jakeeboy said:
Rondo has plenty more time to prove that he is better than Parker. Parker has been in the league a lot longer than Rondo, so comparing All-star selections, championships etc. is just stupid imo.
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At 25 years of age (younger than Rondo currently is) Parker was a finals mvp winner and already had 3 rings.

So sure Rondo has years to catch up to what Parker had already won when he was 25.


peternorth said:
so in summary, ask boston fans its rondo. ask spurs fans its parker.
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Ask Boston fans it's Rondo, ask everyone else it's Parker.
 
Yeah it's Parker.

Rondo's big flaw is really big.

Parker doesn't really have anything you'd call a flaw. Apart from banging the wives of former team mates. If you call that a flaw.
 

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But its a flaw of his.

Rondo needs a specific type of team around him to be effective.

He's got two HOF wings and a HOF PF capable of stretching the floor.

Anyone remember when Boston won their first title with this team? And Rondo barely played in the deciding moments?

It was simple, they couldn't space the floor enough with him on it. So they ran that House/Allen/Pierce/Posey/Garnett lineup and it was a nightmare for the Lakers to defend as there was just too much shooting talent on the floor.

Whenever Rondo came in, they could leave 6 feet off him and double the shooter/slasher.

It's a big flaw in his game. He's a better playmaker, rebounder and defender than Parker. But unless I had the perfect situation for Rondo, I'd be taking Parker every time, as he's effective regardless of who is around him.

Anyone else think it just a touch strange how little interest there has been in Rondo with the multiple times Ainge has floated him for trades?

It's because of that flaw.

I can't even think of one team that he would suit other than the Celtics.... maybe NYC but then they have the Ninja Steve Nash now.

OKC would be a candidate but they don't have enough floor spacing at the 4/5 spots. Dallas could suit but they're probably landing Deron next season.

I really just don't see him as being as useful as Tony Parker.
 
Oh look another person using the three HOFers excuse. If you haven't noticed the big three won't make the HOF because of their career in Boston they made their names years ago. The big three had one great season and ever since they've been good but haven;t been amazing. If Rondo is so reliant on the big three then why didn't Nate Robinson or Delonte West put up Rondo like numbers when Rondo was out? Why didn't Avery Bradley put up big assist numbers when Rondo was out a few weeks ago? The answer is simple Rondo is a talented playmaker and can make plays for any team.
 
nbaman1 said:
Oh look another person using the three HOFers excuse. If you haven't noticed the big three won't make the HOF because of their career in Boston they made their names years ago. The big three had one great season and ever since they've been good but haven;t been amazing. If Rondo is so reliant on the big three then why didn't Nate Robinson or Delonte West put up Rondo like numbers when Rondo was out? Why didn't Avery Bradley put up big assist numbers when Rondo was out a few weeks ago? The answer is simple Rondo is a talented playmaker and can make plays for any team.
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Your response completely misses my entire point.

Either you know I'm right, or you can't read well.
 
nbaman1 said:
Your point is that Rondo would be no good without 3 HOFers. I responded by saying that HOF crap is a load of shit and Rondo can play without them. Your wrong maybe you need to read better.
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That was not my point at all. So at least now we know you can't read. Or spell.
 
nbaman1 said:
Your saying he can't shoot and he needs two HOF wings and a HOF PF around him to be effective. How am I not right? Got to love people who bring up spelling and grammar when they're losing an argument. :o:o:o:o
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I never once said that he needs two HOF wingmen and a HOF PF to be successful.

You've completely missed the absolutely crucial part of my post.

I said he needs players who can space the floor for him the way those HOF'ers do. Whether they're HOF or not (and they are) isn't the main point of the argument.

I shouldn't have to explain this again in such detail, as if you had the ability to read at a high school level you could have figured it out yourself. So please forgive me if I feel the need to mock your intelligence, but you do this to yourself.
 

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Why then mention that they are HOFers? And your completely wrong anyway you've just gone right off topic because your wrong. He doesn't need players capable of spacing the floor to be good. Look how good he was at the start of last season passing it to Shaq in the paint. Does he space the floor? No I don't think so. Thanks for continuing to prove you have **** all knowledge of the way Rondo and the Celtics play. You also say that he needs a specific type of team around him to be effective. Doesn't everyone in the NBA? Dwight Howard would be useless without shooters, Chris Paul wouldn't be anywhere near as good without a roll man, Kobe needs a big to help him carry the load and LeBron needs another star on his team to be most effective.
 
Well said Louis, the fact this need to be explained to some New England homers is just sad. Sad that they can't recognise the talent that Tony Parker is and has been basically since he entered the NBA while Rondo has done what he can but still not been that complete point guard with the options that Tony Parker delivers with his own ability.

In facdo the New Englanders even realise this is about TP anymore or they have just got all caught up and attempted to defend their own capable player, that just doesn't measure up to TP.

We all know ROndo is good, he's just not Tony Parker.
 
nbaman1 said:
I'm a homer? I realise that Parker is a good player but Rondo is just as good. Just because he has a big flaw doesn't automatically mean Parker is better. The only thing Parker does better than Rondo is score a few more buckets a game.
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Yes it does. He's always understood his role and by playing exactly to that has delivered San Antonio Championships and been a better PG than Rondo over the course of his career.

Otherwise if we're arguing stats we should be arguing that Wilt Chamberlain is the best player of all time with you. :cool:


*It kills me that I'm arguing the value of Rondo when I love the guy and have a Boston jersey with his name on it, but common sense must prevail . . . . . right?
 
I'm not the one comparing their careers? I'm saying right now he's just as good if not better than Parker when healthy. And he didn't deliver three rings to the Spurs sorry but there is a guy named Tim Duncan who is the greatest power forward to ever play the game. He's the reason the Spurs won three rings.
 
nbaman1 said:
I'm not the one comparing their careers? I'm saying right now he's just as good if not better than Parker when healthy.
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if we're talking about right now at this moment i think we need to take into account RRs injury. no one can predict how he wouldve gone sans injury.

nbaman1 said:
And he didn't deliver three rings to the Spurs sorry but there is a guy named Tim Duncan who is the greatest power forward to ever play the game. He's the reason the Spurs won three rings.
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y u no luv manu?
 

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nbaman1 said:
I'm not the one comparing their careers? I'm saying right now he's just as good if not better than Parker when healthy.
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Then it's closer but I'm still going to stick with Parker who is absolutely killing right now without any of the old foes that used he used to be the supporting cast to. Right now he's relying on Old Man Duncan and who to be contending the west?

Right now, Parker wins.


EDIT: Vale MDC.
 
nbaman1 said:
I'm a homer? I realise that Parker is a good player but Rondo is just as good. Just because he has a big flaw doesn't automatically mean Parker is better. The only thing Parker does better than Rondo is score a few more buckets a game.
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You seem to be saying Rondo is better though.

I pointed out, quite clearly, that I consider Rondo better than Parker in most facets of the game, but the gap isn't big between him and Parker on any one of them.

BUT

Rondo has a big flaw that Parker doesn't, and as a result I'd say Parker would be more valuable in a vacuum (that means if you didn't know which team he was going to play for) and Rondo is better in a team that suits him.
 

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