BBL Big Bash League Expansion Thread

What expansion teams should be added to the Big Bash League?


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New Zealand never had a professional domestic competition in any of those sports. Also being restricted to having one Auckland based professional team in those sports has damaged their chances of growth and development.
Not for T20 cricket, no. You see, they already have their own domestic T20 league.
You would have to be crazy to not think NZ and the ACB arent looking at the option.
Expanding the league without actually effecting the current pool of talent.

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You would have to be crazy to not think NZ and the ACB arent looking at the option.
Expanding the league without actually effecting the current pool of talent.

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Why would CA be looking at the option?

CA could add an extra 32 games just be making it home and away without actually effecting the current pool of talent.

Why does CA need to expand?

What are CA's goals in the BBL?
- Get Australians from outside the traditional cricket background into cricket
- Make choosing cricket as a career more attractive for young Australians
- Remain the dominant summer (and defacto national) sport.
- Keep international cricket as the premier form of the game - eg the complete opposite of any other sport in Australia bar rugby union which seems to have no plan at all.

How does a NZ team fit in with these goals?
 

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last nights game in launceston shows that taking a few games to other venues is a good idea but we dont need to go NZ terrible idea whoever suggested that
 
We don't have enough talent to fill half the teams....
 
Why would CA be looking at the option?

CA could add an extra 32 games just be making it home and away without actually effecting the current pool of talent.

Why does CA need to expand?

What are CA's goals in the BBL?
- Get Australians from outside the traditional cricket background into cricket
- Make choosing cricket as a career more attractive for young Australians
- Remain the dominant summer (and defacto national) sport.
- Keep international cricket as the premier form of the game - eg the complete opposite of any other sport in Australia bar rugby union which seems to have no plan at all.

How does a NZ team fit in with these goals?

After everything that happened with the CBA last year, you are clearly missing one of the big goals - money. There's no use making cricket more attractive to kids, or being the "dominant" sport if there's no money for development, or for paying players/staff.

I don't know whether 1-2 NZ teams would benefit that much. But it's more games, and it's another tv market to earn money from. If NZ teams checks those boxes then they'll investigate adding them.
 
After everything that happened with the CBA last year, you are clearly missing one of the big goals - money. There's no use making cricket more attractive to kids, or being the "dominant" sport if there's no money for development, or for paying players/staff.

I don't know whether 1-2 NZ teams would benefit that much. But it's more games, and it's another tv market to earn money from. If NZ teams checks those boxes then they'll investigate adding them.

The money decision would be to not add in any new teams and just increase the number of rounds to 14 in a home and away decision.

Cricket New Zealand will want a majority slice of any revenue gained from a NZ team.
 
The money decision would be to not add in any new teams and just increase the number of rounds to 14 in a home and away decision.

Cricket New Zealand will want a majority slice of any revenue gained from a NZ team.

I don't disagree - my vote in the poll when this thread started was for no expansion, and I haven't waivered from that.

I just think that, 2 tv deals down the track, if expansion is something CA wants to explore, NZ shouldn't be ruled out. I think the depth of the competition is already really shallow with 8 teams.
 

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that has absolutely nothing to do with the playing at new grounds... they would be getting games anyway, they only added 1 extra match per team
I'm talking about new teams. Imagine another 30 players getting contracts. Guys like Shaun Tait would still be sought after because there's no one else better
 
Not sure why depth is such an issue. There's 6 Shield teams and 8 BBL teams, so you're not adding much more than there are Shield quality players. Add in the internationals and it should be of decent quality. Obviously you have to take out the Test players. But it does seem lighter than it should.
 
Not sure why depth is such an issue. There's 6 Shield teams and 8 BBL teams, so you're not adding much more than there are Shield quality players. Add in the internationals and it should be of decent quality. Obviously you have to take out the Test players. But it does seem lighter than it should.

I reckon there's 2 replies to that.

The first is that first class players don't automatically make good T20 players. There are plenty of blokes playing Shield cricket that aren't getting games in the BBL. And for whatever reason, Australia still doesn't seem to be doing a great job of producing "T20 specialists" at any level.

The second is just that, with the timing of the competition, the internationals aren't increasing the standard in the manner that they should be. It'd be easy to say that, if we wanted to add another 2 teams, we could increase the number of internationals to 3, or even 4. But we just can't get the very best players out here.
 
I reckon there's 2 replies to that.

The first is that first class players don't automatically make good T20 players. There are plenty of blokes playing Shield cricket that aren't getting games in the BBL. And for whatever reason, Australia still doesn't seem to be doing a great job of producing "T20 specialists" at any level.

The second is just that, with the timing of the competition, the internationals aren't increasing the standard in the manner that they should be. It'd be easy to say that, if we wanted to add another 2 teams, we could increase the number of internationals to 3, or even 4. But we just can't get the very best players out here.

And third is - just because a player is playing shield doesn't make them shield standard.
 
This is not a comment on the expansion of BBL per se but I would love to see a T20 champions league that would bring together the top sides from the BBL, the IPL and others to play off against each other.
 
This is not a comment on the expansion of BBL per se but I would love to see a T20 champions league that would bring together the top sides from the BBL, the IPL and others to play off against each other.

Agree, I would like to see it come back. Although invariably, it would end up being a full-strength IPL side up against a BBL side containing blokes from the supplementary list and the rest who aren't considered good enough for the IPL.
 
This is not a comment on the expansion of BBL per se but I would love to see a T20 champions league that would bring together the top sides from the BBL, the IPL and others to play off against each other.

The previous incarnation proved why this is problematic.

The first reason was that IPL teams got first dibs on players, weakening the other teams.

The second reason was that you're creating a tournament that is essentially for the owners, and that players aren't going to care about, which leaves it vulnerable to match fixing/spot fixing.
 
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