Player Watch Billy Frampton

[pablo disco bar]

Nope. Kicked Murray Rance

Not disagreeing but can someone post a video of it ?? TradeDraft

I'm sure was worsfold

 

[Anzacday]

Not disagreeing but can someone post a video of it ??

I'm sure was worsfold

Contradicted yourself there mate.
It was Rance btw.

 

[sr36]

Not disagreeing but can someone post a video of it ?? TradeDraft

I'm sure was worsfold

 

[Kappa]

Literally the entire clip is cowardly cheap shots.

I thought the game was tougher back then?

 

[Anzacday]

Gee that’s a good find - well done.

 

[cityslick1]

Gee, look at Millane go in to fly the flag. No hesitation. Times have def changed

 

[sr36]

Literally the entire clip is cowardly cheap shots.

I thought the game was tougher back then?

I wouldn't say tougher, but it was more dangerous as the head wasn't protected and you could hip and shoulder people in the head.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Literally the entire clip is cowardly cheap shots.

I thought the game was tougher back then?

Mostly a myth perpetuated by those very players from that era who now occupy media positions.

The only genuine difference was that the same bumps that get a player suspended now were basically allowed back then

Outside of that? Much of a muchness. Today's players are overall bigger, faster and stronger. So by default need to be tougher to survive the hits which are at a higher velocity.

But people seem to confuse "tough" with "We all punched on back then"

 

[gouki88]

Mostly a myth perpetuated by those vary players from that era who now occupy media positions.

The only genuine difference was that the same bumps that get a player suspended now were basically allowed back then

Outside of that? Much of a muchness. Today's players are overall bigger, faster and stronger. So by default need to be tougher to survive the hits which are at a higher velocity.

But people seem to confuse "tough" with "We all punched on back then"

It was so different in so many ways (which always makes comparisons tricky). Not being fully professional, no interchange, lack of sports science & nutrition, etc.

Also a lot more tolerance for blokes king-hitting one another and/or playing the man (and their head).

 

[The Dawes]

staggering Ironmonger and Kelly only got 2 weeks apiece.

 

[Bianconeri]

Mostly a myth perpetuated by those vary players from that era who now occupy media positions.

The only genuine difference was that the same bumps that get a player suspended now were basically allowed back then

Outside of that? Much of a muchness. Today's players are overall bigger, faster and stronger. So by default need to be tougher to survive the hits which are at a higher velocity.

But people seem to confuse "tough" with "We all punched on back then"

I watched the drawn grand final between Collingwood and the Roos. A lot of soft free kicks got paid that would have fans screaming if they got paid today.

 

[sr36]

staggering Ironmonger and Kelly only got 2 weeks apiece.

Meanwhile Francis got 6 for that tap, because kicking was beyond the pale. It was a different ethos. It was about how "dirty" it was and not about how dangerous it was. If it was in play like those two it wasn't considered as dirty.

 

[Abdul_The_Bull]

I watched the drawn grand final between Collingwood and the Roos. A lot of soft free kicks got paid that would have fans screaming if they got paid today.

Although I think that it sometimes has gone too far the other way, how many marks were paid (back in the day) because someone managed to grab the ball for 30 miliseconds!?

 

[Bianconeri]

Although I think that it sometimes has gone too far the other way, how many marks were paid (back in the day) because someone managed to grab the ball for 30 miliseconds!?

Honestly I liked it as it kept the game moving and less congested.

 

[pablo disco bar]

I stand corrected

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Six weeks was a very tough penalty for Francis. Didn’t really kick him with any malice or force and almost dropped the knees more than anything!

But six weeks makes it folklore. Starts his career like that… six months later he’s a premiership player

 

[jathanas]

It was so different in so many ways (which always makes comparisons tricky). Not being fully professional, no interchange, lack of sports science & nutrition, etc.

Also a lot more tolerance for blokes king-hitting one another and/or playing the man (and their head).

As athletic specimens the modern players are night and day compared to the guys that played in the 80s and early 90s..

Today's strength and conditioning programs, nutrition plans, recovery protocols etc are all infinitely more sophisticated. The guys that played back then wouldn't be able to keep up with the modern players for a full game.

P.S: Loved Tony Francis but that kick was a sh*t thing to do.

 

[Macca75]

As athletic specimens the modern players are night and day compared to the guys that played in the 80s and early 90s..

Today's strength and conditioning programs, nutrition plans, recovery protocols etc are all infinitely more sophisticated. The guys that played back then wouldn't be able to keep up with the modern players for a full game.

P.S: Loved Tony Francis but that kick was a sh*t thing to do.

The flip side to that would be how good would players from yesteryear be if they were in today's game with the strength and conditioning and nutritional plans and recovery protocols of today's game, they weren't full time footballers that trained every day, image ablet and Carey with today's professionalism, they'd be superstars still I believe.

 

[sr36]

The flip side to that would be how good would players from yesteryear be if they were in today's game with the strength and conditioning and nutritional plans and recovery protocols of today's game, they weren't full time footballers that trained every day, image ablet and Carey with today's professionalism, they'd be superstars still I believe.

A fit Gary Ablett would have gone to stoppages and been Dusty Martin with speckies. Imagine what a fit Tony Lockett would have done.

 

[jonbe54]

A fit Gary Ablett would have gone to stoppages and been Dusty Martin with species. Imagine what a fit Tony Lockett would have done.

Perhaps on Tony but part of his advantage was sheer bulk - Renee Kink was the same - you get super fit you lose some of that sheer bulk.

 

[Gone Critical]

As athletic specimens the modern players are night and day compared to the guys that played in the 80s and early 90s..

Today's strength and conditioning programs, nutrition plans, recovery protocols etc are all infinitely more sophisticated. The guys that played back then wouldn't be able to keep up with the modern players for a full game.

P.S: Loved Tony Francis but that kick was a sh*t thing to do.

I reckon that would have much more to do with selecting more athletes. Some of the 80s "footballers" would struggle to keep up. The running part of the training then was less sophisticated in the 80s but the players were smashed often. The good runners then under their training methods of the time would keep up with todays players IMHO.

 

[sr36]

The running part of the training then was less sophisticated in the 80s but the players were smashed often.

Whoever came up with 100 100s was a sick ****er.

 

[Gone Critical]

Whoever came up with 100 100s was a sick *er.

was 30 100s usually I think. 1 every minute. Where I played we did it regularly at the end of a 1-2 hour training session back in the 80's. Even at lower levels we smashed running all year long. A lot of who was a good runner came down to natural ability but was augmented by a lot of work. At VFL clubs in that time onball players were running big distances with very little rest,

 

[jathanas]

I reckon that would have much more to do with selecting more athletes. Some of the 80s "footballers" would struggle to keep up. The running part of the training then was less sophisticated in the 80s but the players were smashed often. The good runners then under their training methods of the time would keep up with todays players IMHO.

Was thinking about the very same thing. Can't see a Dunstall ever being able to keep up with Moore, no matter how many miles you put into his legs.

Different levels of natural athleticism.

Players like Tony Francis, Scott Russell, G. Brown, and P. Daicos etc would all do well under the current systems. I added Daicos to the list because his very DNA is trhiving today.

 

[jc37]

Mostly a myth perpetuated by those very players from that era who now occupy media positions.

The only genuine difference was that the same bumps that get a player suspended now were basically allowed back then

Outside of that? Much of a muchness. Today's players are overall bigger, faster and stronger. So by default need to be tougher to survive the hits which are at a higher velocity.

But people seem to confuse "tough" with "We all punched on back then"

You actually watch footage 70's and 80's and you can see players flinch at contact they expect from a dodgy wack to the back of the head. In 2022 you pull out of a contest it is all over the media if not in media it is being highlighted in front of team mates at match review meetings but players can attack the ball knowing they are unlikely to be sniped. I think they are braver now.
In both eras I am your typical couch potato fan saying they need to go in harder knowing if thats me out I would be the number 1 softest player on the ground with no right to criticise at all.