Blockbuster Tax

[sirene]

Maybe I do not understand the idea behind this, so please inform me of how it is supposed to work.

Right know I feel I am going to pay more to go to games I already pay for (IF THIS COMES IN)....surely not. I like to think only those who do not have tickets in advance pay more. Am I right or wrong, or who the heck knows how it is being thought out?

 

[parano1a]

Ticket prices will vary depending on the expected popularity of the game.

Say a general admission entry at any MCG or Etihad game during the home & away system is currently a standard price of $20

What they are suggesting is varying this standard price depending on demand. So for example we may end up with:

Carlton v Collingwood $40
Hawthorn v Essendon $35
Richmond v Geelong $25
Collingwood v Port Adelaide $20
Bulldogs v St Kilda $20
Melbourne v Adelaide $15
North Melbourne v GWS $10

 

[sirene]

Okay, I guess my question is; how does it work when I already have a membership?
This year (2013) is Essendon home game, so I am assuming If I want an upgrade I pay higher prices; HOWEVER, I would like to think 2014 ANZAC day I just sit in my regular seat???

 

[Tbone McGraw]

Okay, I guess my question is; how does it work when I already have a membership?
This year (2013) is Essendon home game, so I am assuming If I want an upgrade I pay higher prices; HOWEVER, I would like to think 2014 ANZAC day I just sit in my regular seat???

If you are a member, get in touch with the club.

By the way, this whole thing is a media myth at the moment.

Eddie will fight it if it doesn't help us. And i will back ed in any fight.

 

[sirene]

If you are a member, get in touch with the club.

By the way, this whole thing is a media myth at the moment.

Eddie will fight it if it doesn't help us. And i will back ed in any fight.

I realise it is not part of reality yet, but, I think it is important to look at what is being considered.

 

[Ed D]

I'm not too sure how this would work in an AFL environment. How many Pies games are sell outs that are at the MCG? Maybe ANZAC day and finals? Games that do sell out are at smaller grounds like at Geelong or Perth. The AFL would basically be discouraging people to attend matches, so I don't see it coming in.

 

[Ketchup]

Makes sense I guess. I mean, I wouldn't pay squat to see Melbourne, Port, Bulldogs, GWS, Brisbane, North OR Gold Coast play. So if those games are free/cheap and the AFL charge more to goto games that people are going to go to regardless of price. I guess the money stays the same, but crowd attendances go up. Bringing in bigger gate receipts for the club.

Or, people could just buy memberships for their respective club if they cared so much.

 

[sirene]

I pay premium membership for Collingwood, I then upgrade every other year for ANZAC day as an AFL member, I pay for a minor Bulldogs membership just to support them AND I struggle to pay my mortgage....Football is Very important to our family and now we have to pay more....BULLSHIT!

 

[Tbone McGraw]

I pay premium membership for Collingwood, I then upgrade every other year for ANZAC day as an AFL member, I pay for a minor Bulldogs membership just to support them AND I struggle to pay my mortgage....Football is Very important to our family and now we have to pay more....BULLSHIT!

I mentioned on the.main forum they should not charge members any extra.

And fi do believe this if it is true, is about charging the occasional fan

 

[Markfs]

Talking about variable prices generally, rather than being specific....

What if the ANZAC game was a higher price? What if several Collingwood games were higher priced? Wouldnt that turn off members and perspective members in the long term? Wouldnt people say to each other that they would go to see a cheaper game?

What happens then? I read somewhere that North Melbourne is gaining membership because of the Carey years. If thats true, are North games going to be targeted too in the longer term? Or is it only the teams like Collingwood that are "allowed" to be involved in blockbusters.

Why impose a tax that is likely to reduce attendance? Why not increase the prices at Eagles games and give the extra to the smaller teams. Currently, every Eagles game is a sellout. If you put the price up, it wont have an effect on attendances. Most Eagles fans can easily afford the current cost of memberships. A 20% hike will have little effect. The club has a waiting list of 1000s.

I believe the same could be done to MCC and AFL memberships. Both have waiting lists and are clearly underpriced.

 

[Ed D]

Reading about it here: http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...-begin-this-year/story-e6frepf6-1226583094544

They're saying that the only tickets that would change in price is general admission, and that they're encouraging people to become members to avoid it. I guess I spoke too soon earlier saying the AFL wouldn't bring it in.

 

[Pies_10]

So what we have to pay more as most of Collingwood's games are considered "blockbusters"

 

[stupidbigfootysh]

There already is a blockbuster tax, but it is called a reserve seat. The reason I joined the legends (in 2002) is that it grew increasingly hard to get "good seats" through general admission. For those of us who remember the good old days at Vic Park where a general admission ticket would get you (a standing room) spot near the fence this "tax" is nothing new.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Okay, I guess my question is; how does it work when I already have a membership?
This year (2013) is Essendon home game, so I am assuming If I want an upgrade I pay higher prices; HOWEVER, I would like to think 2014 ANZAC day I just sit in my regular seat???

I think it will apply to walk up patrons not memberships, which has the added benefit of getting more people to join clubs to avoid the higher ticket prices for blockbusters

Additionally its a fairly common ticketing system in the EPL.
A class matches
B class matches
C class matches
all with different ticket prices

 

[lozza63]

To me it seems like a tax on the people that perhaps dont buy memberships due to their individual circumstances yet support the larger clubs or love the atmosphere generated by those games.

So in effect these people and their families that wish to watch a handful of these games during the year involving the likes of Collingwood Carlton Essendon Geelong Hawthorn and Richmond would be penalised - really ridiculous imo!

 

[mattys123]

The Pies and Bombers have averaged 82,756 a game over 18 years on ANZAC day, I think we've earned the right to every cent that comes our way.

But if they want to tax the general admission (non members) prices, I don't have a massive problem with it, if it pisses you off go buy a membership.

 

[lozza63]

But if they want to tax the general admission (non members) prices, I don't have a massive problem with it, if it pisses you off go buy a membership.

Seems totally "Un Australian" dont you think Matty? Kinda making what was once a game for all too elitist? All it does is disenfranchises people from the game in the long run.
And let's face it it's not as if we dont copy enough stuff from overseas codes already - if we were to follow pricing as the example by Baltimore Jack.
Surely the AFL could tax the corporate dollar a little more then in that case - why hit the general public?

 

[vjknight]

dont think for a second a higher admission for some games will be met with lower admission for others.

bullshit idea - it will turn off the occasional types, who make a last minute decision to attend, if theyve got to fork out an extra $10-$20 to get in.

i get a feeling its just another media beatup.

 

[mattys123]

Ah, the luxury of AFL membership, just got 5 tickets for ANZAC Day, bottom deck seats for $7 each, and it's likely they'll never put the tax on these.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Just another reason to buy a membership.

Between the sharing of gate receipts, the luxury tax and the blockbuster tax, the Pies will need a bigger handout than anyone else!

 

[Primetime Pricey]

this is absolute horseshit really.
we already pay more for blockbusters. they are called finals tickets.
what consititutes a blockbuster anyways? would u call the Queens Bday a blockbuster? Melb are shit so why would u fork out another $10-$20 per ticket to watch that?
if your going to bring in this tax then surely u have to bring down ticket prices for bottom club games like Bulldogs vs Melb? Cant have it only 1 way

 

[Hagla]

Maybe if blockbuster was defined only by ladder position it wouldn't be so bad. But if we still have to pay a blockbuster tax when we're in a wooden spoon year just then it's just not acceptable IMO.

 

[morgues]

What good can come of this revenue they are seeking? If this was to fill the trough for the struggling clubs to guzzle, I am completely against it.
I am sick of "tax" measures being seen as a tool to fix the extraordinary predicaments some clubs have let happen.

How about instead of this idea, the AFL pulls its head out of its arse and works on educating and assisting the struggling clubs with administration, marketing, membership, stadium deals, sponsorship, etc. To be honest, I would not be against a few of the bigger clubs getting their CEOs together to provide some advice as well. The AFL can be a part of it, but perhaps some of the clubs can bypass Vlad and his insatiable hunger for $$$$$ and setup a working party of successful club administrators to provide some advice? I dunno.

Who knows, maybe Eddie/Pert/Walsh/Cook/Costa/etc do have half a brain about running things but god forbid they are asked to help out with advice...no no no it has to be about revenue. What a crock of shit.

With the notion of variable and higher/lower prices...will this not drive people to buy memberships? I would imagine the casual supporter would be inclined to purchase a 3-gamer as opposed to paying more for the 3-games...BUT...the AFL will definitely work to increase the costs of memberships as well. Would my membership not include costs that are used to get me my seat?

Bah humbug.

Frustrates me that poor administration, poor leadership, poor marketing, poor sponsorship interest, poor stadium deals, poor attendances (and poor gate takings) for some clubs are only ever fixable by such measures as this. Fair dinkum its complete bollocks. The struggling clubs will not learn anything with their hands out. **** sake.

 

[Ed D]

I think there can be better ways of giving poor clubs more cash than making the fans of popular clubs pay for it, which is essentially what they're proposing with this idea. I see a drop in attendances while memberships (especially 3 game memberships) will increase.
I see this causing problems down the track as well, with ticket prices escalating. I'm sure the average price of tickets will go up with this method in place.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Just having the morning constitutional while reading the paper & what do I see?

Bulldogs support a tax on pokies.

Pie fans don't have to pay extra for blockbuster matches......Tick
Less incentive to have pokies....Tick
Pissing off Carlscum with Mathiesons Pokies being a huge income for them.....TICK, TICK, FRIGGEN TICK!!!!!